love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Labour are angling to get RT taken off air.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53510838

I’d guess the main reason it hasn’t is that getting rid of a channel with, iirc, an average audience of 1300 isn’t worth the inevitable tit-for-tat expulsion of the BBC Russia service but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Interestingly, the government is supposedly mulling over a requirement similar to the US for lobbyists on behalf of foreign interests to register. I can’t see it happening tbh, as I can’t imagine anyone actually wants to lift that rock, but it would be delightful for a certain former Prime Minister to have to come clean about who pays him.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

I can't believe a station with Galloway + Salmond has lower viewing figures than Fishing TV

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

one day later I am here to report that this post really did not age well
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 July 2020 22:59 (yesterday) link

Was Wiley ever in grime4corbyn? :)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:35 (three years ago) link

I'm guessing Fishing TV has an incredibly loyal fanbase who will watch it for hours on end and they've got the advertising market absolutely nailed.

The only thing I've ever seen from Russia Today is that clip where Simon Danczuk tries to ignore a belly dancer for several minutes.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

Corbyn’s deleted an old Tweet thanking Wiley for his support so.. yes?

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Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

There aren't many more pandemic-friendly hobbies than fishing either. Perfect for social distancing.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

poor Steve "piano-man" Rosenberg, getting unceremoniously turfed out of Moscow because of senseless Starmzy posturing

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

Corbyn’s deleted an old Tweet thanking Wiley for his support so.. yes?

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― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 July 2020 bookmarkflaglink

gime4corbyn *shake hands emoji* crank left

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 July 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link

It seems unlikely for someone to go from 0-100 with no previous indicators

Going from 0-100 is kind of what he does btw. There was some anti-mask virus truther stuff in there among all the AS as well.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 July 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

This seems to be connected to some dispute with his manager, who is Jewish I believe.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link

his manager probably told him to wear a mask

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 July 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

And look at all the publicity Kanye is getting for howling at the moon.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

The most prominent Grime4Corbyn voices were people like AJ Tracey and Novelist, a generation below Wiley and more politically engaged in general (Novelist was Young Mayor of Lewisham). JME was involved in the drive to register to vote and met with Corbyn but seemed to back away from offering an explicit endorsement when the attention was on him.

The whole thing appeared to have run out of steam by 2019 by which some of them had switched allegiance to the Greens IIRC.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 July 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link

Don't remember Wiley specifically being involved beyond one "big up Jeremy Corbyn" tweet but even the most shambling and amateurish of campaign managers wouldn't have wanted him anywhere near.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 July 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link

Years back he tweeted racist anti-Asian stuff briefly and dismissed it as "ethnic banter" in an interview on iirc Bobbi Friction's radio show. Plus there is the stuff Dizzee openly alleged about him not too long ago.

nashwan, Saturday, 25 July 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdxOhp3XsAAiU10?format=jpg&name=medium

because scoring points against former rivals/factional adversaries is just as important as the serious business of opposing and challenging antisemitism in the social media world of the so called tsar of antisemitism.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

John "A Very Sick" Mann

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

oops it's czar not tsar or some other c-word

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

considering it was an actual tsar's secret police that put protocols of elders of zion, bit of a fucked up title really!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

published I meant

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

a lot of “hey I just heard of Wiley yesterday but I assume he’s the leader of Black Britain and I assume none of Them are condemning him which is ungrateful considering how not-racist I am so They better not expect any support from me in the future” going on today

the state is bad (Left), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

I saw Mann being interviewed on Sky earlier and I fully expected him to mention Corbyn, he might have and they might have edited it out though.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

@LordJohnMann. Probably a hilarious fake twitter account mind you.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

No that is the real account

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

He got a peerage from the tories for being such awesome opposition

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Didn't boris get the nod from Tommy Robinson at some point?

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Wiley is a fucking bell end

but fuck the fucking police and this authoritarian anti-black fucking shithole of a country

Police investigate grime artist Wiley's antisemitic tweets https://t.co/7hqVVkpDBC

— The Guardian (@guardian) July 25, 2020

the state is bad (Left), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

It's that bunch of headbangers, Campaign Against Antisemitism, who have asked the police to get involved.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Wiley is clearly relishing being able to call the whole country "pagans"

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

have pitchfork learned the difference between paigons and pagans yet? now might be a good time!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

Corbyn should not have deleted his 'Thank you' tweet. Not that issuing any public condemnation would make anyone change their mind either way either.

nashwan, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I was thinking about that, I can understand Corbyn not wanting to invite further dishonest bullshit but I wouldn't have deleted it

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

it isn't a tacit endorsement of AS, he didn't have a gift of time travel hindsight.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

but the dodgy mural like probably still haunts Corbyn's thoughts

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

I can imagine Crombs or his media people thinking "fuck another round of this" tho

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

Or he could have just been as appalled as the rest of us?

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Or probably didn’t want the worst people on twitter repeatedly retweeting and commenting on that old tweet.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

What a country

NEW: Department for Transport confirm Transport Secretary @grantshapps is on holiday in Spain.

He will therefore be among thousands of travellers forced to quarantine for a fortnight when he returns to the UK.#COVID19

— Joe Pike (@joepike) July 25, 2020

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

Keystone Fuckin' Cops

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

This quarantine thing is an absolute shitshow. There are stories of people turning up in Spain for a two week holiday and then having to pretty much head straight back because they can't afford not to physically go to work for a further two weeks.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link

Isn't gyac's tweet above not - by accident - an example of how it should be? No exceptions for the ruling class etc?

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link

There are basically no circumstances that would get me on a plane right now but how many thousands of Brits are there out there right now?

It's probably the right thing to do medically if they're on the way back from Catalonia but if they're going to be constantly lifting and then imposing quarantine restrictions at a moment's notice then it's going to be a disaster, not least because people will choose to just ignore quarantine rules altogether.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

LBI, agreed. Also a good thing to throw in their face when said minister inevitably turns up at some barbecue.

I don't think there's any evidence that the quarantines (or rather social isolation - you can still go out once a day for sport and etc. under official guidelines) are being enforced in any way, afaict if you don't want to comply all you have to do is...just come and not comply, the thousand pound fine seems strictly theoretical.

Showing up at work might be a bit too brazen tho, tbf.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link

It doesn't actually matter that much to you if you're a member of the ruling class because, in common with most white collar workers, it's pretty easy to work from home for a fortnight. Even if laughing at Grant Shapps is to be encouraged at all times.

Completely different if you're, say, a Spanish national working in a service industry in London who has just flown to see your family for the first time in months.

I suppose it isn't really much different to having to self isolate because you've been in contact with someone who's been diagnosed, except for the extra cost involved.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

I just heard someone on the radio saying they'd feel safer in Barcelona than London because more people wear masks and still adhere to social distancing. I saw a huge party in a field last night with a marquee + at least a hundred people, lots of booze, a sound system blasting out "we don't have to take our clothes off to have a good time"! lol we're all going to die

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

"the tories are struggling to find a way to make keir starmer look bad" -- andrew rawnsley

yes he's very forensically undertaking this job all by himself

mark s, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

this remains an anti-rawnsley ilxor account

mark s, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

uh

There are a number of people who are exempt, regardless of their country of origin, including:

Road haulage and freight workers
Medical and care professionals providing essential healthcare
Seasonal agricultural workers if they self-isolate where they are working
UK residents who ordinarily travel overseas at least once a week for work

Shapps just has to decide his job involves checking out the transport infrastructure of the Channel Islands once a week and he's good.

nashwan, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link

Rawnsley also complaining about antisemitism in one paragraph, closely followed by one where he uses North London as a signifier. Git.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

look again Rawnsley you tool! the tories called him "the Roy Cropper of politics" last week and Starmer makes himself look bad every time he fucking breathes!

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link


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