http://cyclocosm.com/2009/06/astanas-tour-selection-is-a-ticking-bomb/
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
thanx cutty
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
well, we're pretty much past the issue but:
But Armstrong hardly ever participated in a race he maybe could not win. He never rode a classic or a tour to help a teammate win. Which, to me, is an essential part of cycling: you ride a lot of races, even the ones where maybe you yourself can't win, but say, a teammate can.
this is like, waht, i dunno. cycling geir-ism? i am saying that it is not armstrong with whom you are at odds, it is modern pro racing. i am saying that you are factually mistaken that menchov or sastre race programs in which a support role is their primary objective in any particular race.
― iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
http://www.bobkestrut.com/2009/03/25/same-as-it-ever-was-2/
― iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha, that's gold!
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
vs schedule for first half
Stage 1: Saturday, July 4, 2009Monaco9:30am to 2:00pm: LIVE Daily Coverage2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 2: Sunday, July 5, 2009Monaco-Brignoles8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 3: Monday, July 6 , 2009Marseille - La Grande Motte8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 4: Tuesday, July 7, 2009Montpellier8:30am to 12:00pm: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 5: Wednesday, July 8, 2009La Cap d'Adge - Perpignan8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 6: Thursday, July 9, 2009Gerone - Barcelona8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 7: Friday, July 10, 2009Barcelona - Andorre Arcalis8:00am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 8: Saturday, July 11, 2009Andorre - La Vielle - Saint Girons7:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 9: Sunday, July 12, 2009Saint Gaudens - Tarbes7:00am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay Stage 19: Friday, July 24, 2009Bourgoin Jallieu - Aubenas8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
Stage 10 Tuesday, July 14, 2009Limoges - Issoudun8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 2:30am: Race Action Replay
Stage 11: Wednesday, July 15, 2009Vatan - Saint Fargeau8:30am to 11:30am: LIVE Daily Coverage12:00pm to 2:00pm: Race Action Replay2:30pm to 4:30pm: Race Action Replay5:00pm to 7:00pm: Race Action Replay8:00pm to 11:00pm: Expanded Primetime Coverage12:00am to 3:00am: Race Action Replay
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
boy sucks having a job now. last summer I could watch the whole dang thing live every day, eat a big bowl of granola/fruit, then go for a ride in the beautiful berkeley hills.
― Chinavision (altair nouveau), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't even have a tv now!
― Chinavision (altair nouveau), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah right now i'm trying to decide between morning motivational viewing and evening drinkin a beer viewing
unemployed yalllllllllll
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
morning motivational! it's great!
― Chinavision (altair nouveau), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^that coverage is lances fault too i think. was vs schedule that aggressive last year?
― iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
no alp d'huez stage for the first time since 1976 :(
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
But there's the Mont Ventoux Steve, on the day before the Champs Elysee!
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
itv4 are showing highlights for anyone in the uk without eurosport
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
think itv4 might be showing a few stages live too
― secondhandnews, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Apart from all the other years since 1976 that it wasn't used (2007, 2005, 2002, 2000, 1998, 1996, 1993, 1985, and 1980).
Yeah, they did last year. Also ITV4 > Eurosport because you get Liggett & Sherwen commentary plus Imlach & Boulting pulling no punches about doping.
Is it safe to say - though to say boldly - America wants Lance Armstrong to win this again, because Armstrong is a 'true American', and Europe vomits even thinking about another Lance win? I know most mainland European cyclist fans feel the latter. Where do the Brits stand in this?
The British cycling press basically seem to view his return as a negative development. They imply, without explicitly stating it, that it's bad news because cycling seemed to have been making a genuine effort to clean up since his retirement, and it seems to be assumed that he is part of the old guard of dopers that we could do without.
― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
wait really
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Who can I get streaming coverage of it from in the US?
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
versus website
― cutty, Thursday, 2 July 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kazakh-coup-to-oust-armstrong-and-bruyneel-from-team-astana
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Friday, 3 July 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/boonen-can-start-in-the-tour
but is not in the start list
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/96th-tour-de-france-gt/start-list
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Friday, 3 July 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I for one am very pleased Boonen can start.
Ed, maybe Quick-Step has to formally write him in again before the start list is updated?
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 3 July 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link
The official site (letour.fr) has this under Riders list: "The starters are not yet known."
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 3 July 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yes boonen can start. i for one dont really give a shit if he does or not heh
― Sookeh, I vant to suck your titties (stevienixed), Friday, 3 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ITV4 appears to be doing the weekend stages live again, or the last couple of hours of them at least. Also a documentary on Sunday night about Chris Boardman's attempt on the world hour record, which I am well looking forward to cos Boardman is a fairly sizeable childhood hero of mine.
― William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 3 July 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
first episode of itv4 daily podcast w/ imlach up now btw.
― zappi, Friday, 3 July 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Podcast, awesome!
Also, dunno why this occurred to me but I wouldve loved to read a dfw essay on the tour
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Friday, 3 July 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
So when does this thing start?
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Partial Start Order and Times: (full times coming...)
Times listed are local. (Times in parentheses are U.S. Eastern)
16:00 (10:00am) Van Hummel16:17 (10:17am) Armstrong16:34 (10:34am) Farrar16:35 (10:35am) Posthuma16:36 (10:36am) Larsson16:37 (10:37am) Leipheimer16:52 (10:52am) Grabsch16:54 (10:54am) Millar16:55 (10:55am) Freire17:38 (11:38am) Zubeldia17:46 (11:46am) Bruseghin17:52 (11:52am) Cavendish17:55 (11:55am) Gesink17:56 (11:56am) F. Schleck18:04 (12:04pm) Devolder18:08 (12:08pm) Pereiro18:14 (12:14pm) Zabriskie18:17 (12:17pm) Kloden18:24 (12:24pm) Boonen18:28 (12:28pm) Iván Gutiérrez18:30 (12:30pm) Nibali18:32 (12:32pm) Rogers18:34 (12:34pm) Vande Velde18:35 (12:35pm) Clement18:36 (12:36pm) A. Schleck18:39 (12:39pm) Hushovd18:41:30 (12:41:30pm) Gerdemann18:43 (12:43pm) Moreau18:44:30 (12:44:30pm) Karpets18:46 (12:46pm) Chavanel18:52 (12:52pm) Luis León Sánchez18:55 (12:55pm) Pellizotti18:56:30 (12:56:30pm) Efimkin18:58 (12:58pm) Kirchen18:59:30 (12:59:30pm) Astarloza19:01 (1:01pm) Wiggins19:02:30 (1:02:30pm) Menchov19:04 (1:04pm) Cancellara19:05:30 (1:05:30pm) Contador19:07 (1:07pm) Evans19:08:30 (1:08:30pm) Sastre
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I love how the news about Boonen got reported in the Australian media:
Australian cyclist Allan Davis has been dumped from the Tour de France so that a playboy rider with a cocaine habit can ride instead.
― The New Beautiful South's New Bassist (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 4 July 2009 08:02 (fourteen years ago) link
lol wasn't Allan Davis himself involved in a real doping scandal aka Fuentes..
― Ludo, Saturday, 4 July 2009 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Exactly!
― The New Beautiful South's New Bassist (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 4 July 2009 08:39 (fourteen years ago) link
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Friday, 3 July 2009 22:07 Bookmark
That would have been truly amazing, I think. Did he ever show any interest in cycling? I think what made his tennis stuff so compelling was that his obssession with the game shone through. Although tbh he could have written about paint drying and it would still have been awesome to read...
― Stone Monkey, Saturday, 4 July 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
The Boardman documentary is great, they showed it last year too.
I am well excited about the Tour and am crossing my fingers for Lord Cavendish to make it to the Champs Elysees.
― Madchen, Saturday, 4 July 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
O_o
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Any single chainring TT riders out there? Noticed LA never got out of the big ring even on this hilly course.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
No sign of Millar yet on TV, but I think he's on the road now.
― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Tony Martin goes ahead of Armstrong.
― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Millar just started.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
...with uber-tacky sponsor-tattoos.
haha, i got fooled, flesh covered shoulder panels on the onesie.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Here comes Millar. He looks to be climbing very slowly in a very low gear. Hopefully appearances are deceptive.
― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Leipheimer into the lead.
― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Millar is so awesome (but he's not winning this one unfortunately)
Alberto will kick Armstrong's ass with at least a minute.
― Ludo, Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
man i hope so ^______________________^
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
that last hairpin is hairy
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Millar did well to stay on his bike when he locked up the back wheel there. I'm pinning my hopes on Wiggins now.
― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
And ITV4's coverage starts now! Imlach O'Clock!
Going for good ol' Fabian Cancellara. I have no idea if the circuit suits him, but what the hell. Cancellara rocks.
― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Imlach and St Boardman both suggesting that, due to the whacking great gradients at the start, this prologue will be throwing time gaps all over the place with a sizeable effect on the GC, so the major contenders are gonna go hard today. Which I'm guessing might not bode that well for Fabs.
― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Sherwen just said this course does, in fact, suit Cancellara, and he's the favourite for the stage. Fair enough. Go Fabs!
― William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 4 July 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i got that info from the Belgian tv text.. so no link.
still can't believe (even though it's been true for a 100 years) that cyclists are willing to take all these risks with medicine/drugs still in development.
― Ludo, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Finally watched ventoux, then made E watch it from the tree line. Awesome stuff, contador never looked in trouble. Shame he didn't let the. Win do the talking and shut up about lance. Lance should have kept more gnomic as well. Looking forward to the vuelta now, although I presume Lance won't be there, I'd be surprised if he pulls on an astana jersey again.
Wondering what will happen to wiggins, will he lead for garmin or will they continue with Menchov? I'm really excited to see how Wiggins develops, I'm sure he can get better in another year, I'm also sure that the schlecks will as well and tony martin looked good on the ventoux and earlier in the race as well.
Glad cav and hushovd made up as well, that's going to be a great rivalry. Cav and columbia have either got to shut down hushovd on the breaks or get cav to be able to go out with him when he goes for intermediates.
See you all in a month for the vuelta.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
good thing this risk taking cheating gene is isolated to cycling or wed be in heaps of trouble
xpost
― iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
lol.
― Ludo, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Wondering what will happen to wiggins, will he lead for garmin or will they continue with Menchov?
Aren't you confusing Garmin and Rabobank here? Both orange jersey's though, so it's understandable :)
I think it's over between Menchov and Rabo though, he really blew it this Tour. I can see him heading back to Russia, there's lot's of rumours that Katusja want him.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
If Cavendish put his mind to it, I reckon he could improve his climbing. Not to KotM standard, but good enough to rival Thor on those inter-col sprints.
I can't help feeling a teeny bit sorry for Menchov.
― Madchen, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I am indeed, I blame it on being up at 3:30 am this morning.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Ed got me thinking Menchov was making a very unexpected move. (also unexpected from Garmin, don't see what they need him) Katusja would be a wise choice.
― Ludo, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Astarloza. EPO. 1 week before the start of the Tour.
http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tour-stage-winner-suspended-over-doping-20090801-e4nz.html
― StanM, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/aug/04/bradley-wiggins-interview-donald-mcrae
― caek, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/voigt-can-start-riding-again-in-two-weeks
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 13 August 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Matt White has been directing us around southwest France for the last week. Allez allez allez!
― Madchen, Monday, 17 August 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Team Sky name six British riders but wait on Bradley Wiggins
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link