absolute wank of a man.
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
if that is the one of the best they can find to fight in their propaganda battle for the continuation of the UK, then they are truly fucked! It's Bob Geldoff/Eddie Izzard/Alistair Darling campaigning for remain dismal.
― calzino, Thursday, 20 August 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoOfXUZj4gM&feature=emb_title
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Thursday, 20 August 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoOfXUZj4gM
I honestly can’t wait for Scotland to join the EU, the two Ireland’s reunite, and the British empire finally be distilled to just England and Wales
― beamish13, Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:08 (four years ago) link
Theres only 1 ireland pal
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link
The worst thing about this tweet?For 5 years, the government's own experts have told them that every Brexit scenario will make the British people poorer, and the only time they're willing to admit that, is when it can be used for political advantage to threaten Scotland. https://t.co/G483i62FgM— Femi😷 (@Femi_Sorry) February 5, 2021
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 5 February 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link
here we fucking go
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link
It’s going to pass this time isn’t it?
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link
it’ll pass 52/48 in favour and the tories will say it’s too narrow a margin to allow it to happen
― balsamic vaccinegar of moderna (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link
if it doesn't pass this time then it will be disastrous, in so many ways. I'm still not convinced one way or another for various reasons but I kinda want it to happen because the alternative timeline for both Scotland and the UK is cataclysmic
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link
I wouldn't put money on it tbh. I can't imagine what state the economy and the world at large will be by Oct 2023.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:50 (two years ago) link
looking forward to seeing Gordon Brown out on the big stage again where he belongs
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link
Nothing is certain but the yoon argument has taken a ton of damage since the first referendum - Brexit alone must be worth at least 10% to yes. I am saying this mindful of the various caveats about the reality of indyScot but the last eight years haven’t exactly been “we’re so glad you stayed”.
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:03 (two years ago) link
the Scottish Government is currently taking control over the administration of the benefits system and has made a deliberate and real committment to treating claimants better than DWP. If the roll-out is a success it's going to have a huge impact. Plus, Brexit.
the flipside is that, you only need to spend a day in Sturgeon's own constituency to see the kind of thing that turns voters off - poor housing, fly-tipping and litter, rampant effects of drug use. I live here and I like it, but when you've had to call the council to put down traps for rats in the communal bin area shared by six tenenment blocks, you do have to ask if things are going as well as they possibly could.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
going to be interesting to see* are the tories going to try to declare it illegitimate? surely this couldn't be another catalonia, but then what?* what kind of remain campaign can be mounted if the vote isn't supported by national parties?* will there just be a spoiler boycott in order to undermine legitimacy?
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link
My timeline already full of "just go away, we're subsidising you ungrateful and we don't want you" guys, who all seem to have changed their tune from the unionist tune they were all dancing to in 2014 insisting we had to stay for, um, reasons.
I think for it to be successful it has to be made very clear to idiots like, say, my mum, that the SNP don't have to be the party in government of an independent Scotland. She hated Salmond and hates Sturgeon (despite all the free prescriptions and the free buses and the forthcoming free education her grandson will benefit from, to pick three examples) and even hating the Tories won't convince her to cut Scotland adrift of Westminster because boo SNP bad (c) BBC Scotland and the Scottish Daily Mail.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 07:59 (two years ago) link
I'm an indy supporter but I'm really not sure if this is the right time. It doesn't feel to me like there's much demand for a second referendum right now, what with how wild everything's been over the last few years
― paolo, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 07:59 (two years ago) link
I've seen people argue that Brexit might actually put voters off voting for Scottish independence, that all the chaos and disruption of leaving the EU will make voters worry that leaving the UK would be equally (or even more) fraught, as well as the fact that an independent Scotland would have to rejoin the EU rather than automatically remaining a member. Does this seem credible to people more in-the-know than me, or is desire to rejoin the EU/resentment of being pulled out of the EU by England the more significant factor?
― soref, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 08:14 (two years ago) link
I don't think Scottish (re)accession to the EU will necessarily be straightforward, given Spanish thoughts about the precedent it would set for Catalonia
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 08:49 (two years ago) link
whether that is something that Scottish voters will take into account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 08:52 (two years ago) link
If only Russia could be persuaded to invade Scotland.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 09:06 (two years ago) link
xxxp I think that worry about the disruption of leaving the UK and wanting to join the EU probably cancel each other out. That's just a personal feeling, I don't have any data to back that up
― paolo, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 09:58 (two years ago) link
I remember in 2014 Salmond insisting that negotiating Scotland's exit from the UK would be very straightforward, both Scotland and the rump UK would have a shared interest coming to an agreement everyone was happy with etc, which seemed implausible at the time and is even more unconvincing after Brexit.
― soref, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 10:15 (two years ago) link
Ironically probably a better chance of negotiation with any other government than this one
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:16 (two years ago) link
yesterday I heard the most important issue being brought up on PM: Would ppl from rump UK to be able to take their dogs with them into an independent Scotland without any nonsense like when they take them to France these days. The posh as fuck English people that take their dogs with them on holiday lobby deserve to have their say on Scotland's future as well!
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:39 (two years ago) link