Discussion thread for possible FP/moderation changes to ILX

Make sure you don't forget to cancel during the 7 day period, that's how they get u

Oh I'm going to do a ton of cancelling during this purge of thought deviants experiment

This could probably do with better polling though, if we end up with four changey options on 18% and no change on 28%, I'd hesitate to claim that no change is the consensus.

I'd read that as Change 72 - No Change 28 and I think the mods would feel comfortable coming to a decision as to what the change should be. But no need to put the cart before the horse.

if you do have a poll, i ask sincerely to please make it very clear/unambiguous and avoid jokes

That's a good goal - do you consider the options in Tom's linked post clear, say (though of course WmC may have other options)?

Discussion thread for possible FP/moderation changes to ILX

Those were what I had in mind.

I'm going to start a one week poll with new threshold options on Thursday, one week after the start of this thread; "no change" will be one of the options.

― Scampos Runamuck (WmC), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:48 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Did this happen?

POLL: Proposed FP Threshold Changes

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I think in a particularly fractious time, temporary suspensions are good and necessary!

the idea a cooling off period is punitive is weird to me. when you have trust in a community, that trust is enforced and not tested by your peers having you step away and cool off

if I can interrupt my coworkers when they get off the point in a meeting and call things to order with no hurt feelings, I know it’s a constructive work environment and I view social environments no differently tbh

there've definitely been plenty of times I wish someone had stopped me before letting me shoot myself in the foot on this borad. so I definitely agree.

With poll results in and after mod consultation, there will be an additional FP threshold of 20 FPs within 30 days resulting in a 7-day time-out from posting, effective on the Day of Jubilee when stet deletes all FPs from the system, i.e. any day now. User Left's current 30-day ban will be unaffected; they will be unbanned October 31st.

roll the credits

Should have been 14 days, but whatever. Roll on new regime.

please all temp bans to be signalled with the message "u ok hun"

effective on the Day of Jubilee when stet deletes all FPs from the system, i.e. any day now

Is this a subtle cue to deploy our most FP-worthy material before all our sins are washed away (except for Left's)?

Will the language be changed? i.e. will the admin log reflect that these are 7- and 30-day bans and not say "peace, man has been banned permanently"?

It'll probably stay the same and be up to the mod doing the banning to write a note indicating the length of the ban.

If he has the spare time maybe stet can get around to removing the adverb, but he already has about a half dozen changes on his entirely voluntary plate from this

so I only have to create a few more sock puppet accounts and I can unilaterally temp ban people? good to know.

That is correct, mods have zero tools to identify socks and will be powerless to do anything but follow the new guidelines according to the letter and not the spirit. You’re too clever for us.

How many socks are currently going in your estimation?

There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste

it's just you and me in here, pom

and I'm going to fp you lots

Challenge accepted.

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together

and I'm going to fp you lots

lol

Take your pick:

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FP

I'll take Fountain Pepsi over Fungus Patrol fwiw.

Fungus is among us.

I have been certified as human by captcha

I'll take Fountain Pepsi over Fungus Patrol fwiw.

Depends what you mean by 'earnest'. I know what I meant. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Banned all of u using my accounts Garu G-1 thru Garu G-71

Tom initially found it questionable and asked me if I was a sock but i made him pancakes and he forgot to ask again

so I only have to create a few more sock puppet accounts and I can unilaterally temp ban people? good to know.

― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Monday, September 21, 2020 3:35 PM (three hours ago)

if you are going to do this, you should really do this over an extended period of time ... like, you kinda don't want to have "bob in vancouver," "dale in vancouver," "another bob in vancouver," and "the other other bob in vancouver" all show up as new user registrations in the same week.

^ good idea, and also be sure to spread them out geographically. here are some sock suggestion names to help get you started based on what I know of the area from looking at google maps for 45 seconds, and from my research into the most popular male baby names from British Columbia, Canada, 1970: michael in coquitlam, david in squamish, robert in tsawwassen, jason in chilliwack.

cum in burrito

not a single one of those words is a popular canadian baby's name or a british columbian toponym, you inconsequential oaf

bet that one slays at the Chuckle Hut

Get a room you two

yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and uh, get my own if that's cool. Gotta get up early tomorrow. Thanks though.

I assume it's out of the question to change the name to something that actually describes what it does, e.g., "vote to ban"

It used to be called “suggest ban” (or “SB” in the parlance) but people pointed out that the problem was the posts, not the posters, so it was changed, and then it turned out the department of pre-crime wasn’t up to preventing bad posts in real time, so we’re back to how the world works: temporarily suspending people from posting due to bad behavior.

also be sure to spread them out geographically. here are some sock suggestion names to help get you started based on what I know of the area from looking at google maps for 45 seconds, and from my research into the most popular male baby names from British Columbia, Canada, 1970: michael in coquitlam, david in squamish, robert in tsawwassen, jason in chilliwack.

you could also be super sneaky and change up the pattern, like, instead of these, you could go with coquitlammichael23, squamishdave81, tsawwassenbob69, and chilliwackjason420

what happened in 2012-2013? 2012 was the year of Twitter's explosive growth iirc, and it's when mobile browsing got really big, they could be factors. Can't remember the board drama of that year.

― stet, Friday, 28 August 2020 21:13 (three weeks ago) link

ahhh...the kitty pryde thread was around that time...

why did Left get banned? i like his posts lol

but then i also think some ppl deserve to be condescended to sometimes which is apparently fp-able so what do i know. some of my fav ilx posts were condescending