I think we can safely ignore this
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
Would you settle for you can ignore it?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
Ignore it in a specific and limited way. (Yes I also have that cliff-edge feeling)
― stet, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
i have no idea what this means, if there are two tables of four people next to each other in the pub are we not allowed to talk?
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link
I'm assuming the pub is out?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
They haven’t released the wording yet, but potentially yes if it counts as “socialising”. Certainly no tables of more than 6 (except from the same household) xp
― stet, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
No restrictions on the numbers in schools, workplaces, or Pret.
why are pubs open?!?!?!?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
Because Boris likes to be liked.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
tbh when i've been to the pub post-lockdown i've never sat at a table of more than 6 except twice: at a funeral and a wedding. there's varying degrees of the rules being applied but they mostly are being applied whereever i've been, they're just probably not very adequate rules.
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
I suspect the problem is house parties and other in-home gatherings first and foremost. People started ignoring the rules ages ago.
The other issues around workplaces and overcrowded housing haven't changed either but it's also clear that some places were taken out of lockdown way too early in their particular curve.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link
yeah the point is this is just an amplification of "the rules don't apply if you're spending money but god forbid anybody socialising for free"
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
Again only human activity that involves work or spending money is allowed. Whenever I walk through Islington it's full of absolutely packed restaurants, mostly with tables with 2-4 people. That won't change. You could go to the pub by yourself as my dad always did and chat to all the other guys at the bar, and the pub can remain packed. These are only new lockdown measures in the sense that they are an announcement the gov are making to give the impression they are doing something. They will continue to insist that people who have been working just as hard or even harder from home since april go "back to work" while announcing this unfortunate curtailment of freedom-loving brits right to do anything that doesn't directly feed the economy.
Those that take measures to limit their risk of exposure will continue to do inasmuch as they are not prevented from doing so by other people (their employer say, or the person who shows up at their workplace without a mask and keeps breathing down their neck, etc). What is notable, is that these measures do nothing to protect or empower those who wish to limit their own exposure. These random announcements of "no Ludo on a tuesday" are more an illusion of lockdown, recognising that people enjoyed a certain sense of protection that came from being limited and obstructed. and this was popular! it felt decisive, there was a mood of people meeting the occasion. They do not however empower people to protect their own health, there is nothing that makes employers more accountable, there is nothing to enforce literally any kind of measures in retail spaces or commercial hospitality spaces (as far as I can tell, these fell apart immediately). The people I know who are most fatalistic about the whole thing are colleagues who work in an SEN school, where senior management can now no longer be visited in their offices but children with high temperatures still stay on for the whole school day, hygiene facilities remain below the minimum requirements for basic dignity and playgrounds are overcrowded.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 06:54 (three years ago) link
Hancock on #BBCBreakfast If you’re a family of 5 you can only see one grand parent from Monday in EnglandUp to 25% of people getting tests are ‘not eligible’ & causing issues for othersAnnouncement on Doncaster Races (and other events) from the Prime Minister at 4pm— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) September 9, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link
What does the 25% thing mean?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link
Also Hancock:
Fucking hell. ‘Car crash’ really doesn’t do this justice. This is a multiple vehicle pileup resulting in the closure of a four-junction stretch of the M25 in both directions. But with added weird, creepy laughter.My toes may never uncurl.pic.twitter.com/PwQcxlzp6h— 🏳️🌈 Max 🏳️🌈 (@SpillerOfTea) September 9, 2020
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link
the 25% thing is about people getting tests when they don't have symptoms — eg before they go on holiday, or go to a wedding or something. Which seemed like prudent behaviour to me given how they've been banging on about how many tests we've got, such beautiful tests, world-beating tests. Turns out they barely have enough capacity to test the symptomatic and now they've maxed out
― stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link
Lol ok thanks
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:49 (three years ago) link
They wasted lockdown, and they wasted the post-lockdown pissing about with civil service shakeups (including fucking about with PHE ffs) and now seems like that time's has just about run out. Good idea to start a massive Brexit fight as well, then.
― stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link
Is it truly always a good idea to listen to someone's sister?
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link
i'mma go with "no"
https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/images/9780252074677_lg.jpg
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1104/4308/products/The_Bad_Sister_1024x1024.jpg?v=1571830824
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link
Oh yes it's here:
It’s all YOUR fault https://t.co/Gqa1A5nRIj— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) September 9, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link
👀👀👀
St Leger Festival gets underway today @DoncasterRaces The government has given the go ahead for thousands of people to attend the four day event. It's one of the first sport pilot events to introduce spectators back to fixtures pic.twitter.com/0KqlPSYn6H— ITV News Calendar (@itvcalendar) September 9, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link
Now I'm not an epidemiologist but
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link
i’m no mathematician, but
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link
i'm no horse, but
― stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link
looking forward to hearing the ronas and riders
― this is my clean tone (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link
The cowardice of not just doing this at Cheltenham.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link
At this stage you have to just assume that the government is entirely in the pocket of the gambling industry.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link
Johnson says he regrets that Starmer did not take back his claim about the system being on the verge of collapse. He repeats the point about it doing a “heroic” job. The medium journey is under 10 miles, he says.
Having to travel 10+ miles for your test - pure heroism.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link
Tories: BREAKING THE LAW!
Guardian libs: be polite before killing me.
Losing it at these Guardian comments describing what "Starmerism" means to them. "Politeness", the end of "mad-ism", "a reminder that the age of enlightenment did actually happen"? We are so screwed. pic.twitter.com/z9NTHqVJGo— Stephen Buranyi (@stephenburanyi) September 9, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link
― this is my clean tone (NickB),
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― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link
big lack of the famed forensics on brexit here
― stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link
Note the Trumpism
44m ago12:32Kim Johnson (Lab) asks about housing in Liverpool. She says the government’s plans for planning reform will allow slums to return. Will he abandon them?
Boris Johnson says his government will deliver beautiful new homes.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link
the "mad-ism" letter is signed "rawlsian"
― mark s, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
Great stuff.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link
so you can see one grandparent at a time in england now?
if you've got the rona and give it to granddad when you see him, what's preventing him from going home and giving it to granny?
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
the pub. it's on the way.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link
St Leger meeting decision reversed. This government listens
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link
Just lucky that all of today's attendees are immune
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
Is it just my imagination or has Michael Gove completely disappeared over the past few months? Hancock, Sunak, Raab, Patel, Williamson and Sharma have all been fairly prominent over the summer and even Johnson has pulled his finger out a little bit. Suggests that Gove knows this is a disaster that is going to end multiple political careers and wants to keep as low a profile as possible.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:17 (three years ago) link
Mark Francois also disappeared for some reason
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
Give reportedly came up with this “break the law” wheeze and pushed for it
― stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
the master strategist at work
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
televised update at 4 on bbc1.
i was looking forward to The Repair Shop, but i guess that won't happen now
― koogs, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
If we have built capacity for 200k tests and Hancock is complaining that people without symptoms are getting tests... does that mean he thinks he's built capacity for 200k active daily symptomatic tests?
Also if only 25% are ineligible why aren't we reporting 150k new daily cases? What the fuck do these 148k symptomatic people per day have that isn't covid?
― オニモ (onimo), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
he doesn't know what he's doing.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/lVoLCWe.png
not great really is it