Discussion thread for possible FP/moderation changes to ILX

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It'll probably stay the same and be up to the mod doing the banning to write a note indicating the length of the ban.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

If he has the spare time maybe stet can get around to removing the adverb, but he already has about a half dozen changes on his entirely voluntary plate from this

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link

so I only have to create a few more sock puppet accounts and I can unilaterally temp ban people? good to know.

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

That is correct, mods have zero tools to identify socks and will be powerless to do anything but follow the new guidelines according to the letter and not the spirit. You’re too clever for us.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

How many socks are currently going in your estimation?

pomenitul, Monday, 21 September 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

it's just you and me in here, pom

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

and I'm going to fp you lots

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

Challenge accepted.

pomenitul, Monday, 21 September 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

and I'm going to fp you lots


hot

ciorapomenitul (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

lol

despacito ergo sum (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

Take your pick:

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FP

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

I'll take Fountain Pepsi over Fungus Patrol fwiw.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link

Fungus is among us.

emil.y, Monday, 21 September 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

I have been certified as human by captcha

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

I'll take Fountain Pepsi over Fungus Patrol fwiw.


how are we the same age when you’re getting so earnest over a humble double entendre

and jim, being Scottish, clearly meant “full pump”.

ciorapomenitul (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link

Depends what you mean by 'earnest'. I know what I meant. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

ciorapomenitul (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Banned all of u using my accounts Garu G-1 thru Garu G-71

Tom initially found it questionable and asked me if I was a sock but i made him pancakes and he forgot to ask again

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

so I only have to create a few more sock puppet accounts and I can unilaterally temp ban people? good to know.

― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Monday, September 21, 2020 3:35 PM (three hours ago)

if you are going to do this, you should really do this over an extended period of time ... like, you kinda don't want to have "bob in vancouver," "dale in vancouver," "another bob in vancouver," and "the other other bob in vancouver" all show up as new user registrations in the same week.

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

^ good idea, and also be sure to spread them out geographically. here are some sock suggestion names to help get you started based on what I know of the area from looking at google maps for 45 seconds, and from my research into the most popular male baby names from British Columbia, Canada, 1970: michael in coquitlam, david in squamish, robert in tsawwassen, jason in chilliwack.

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

cum in burrito

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

not a single one of those words is a popular canadian baby's name or a british columbian toponym, you inconsequential oaf

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link

bet that one slays at the Chuckle Hut

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link

Get a room you two

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and uh, get my own if that's cool. Gotta get up early tomorrow. Thanks though.

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

I assume it's out of the question to change the name to something that actually describes what it does, e.g., "vote to ban"

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

It used to be called “suggest ban” (or “SB” in the parlance) but people pointed out that the problem was the posts, not the posters, so it was changed, and then it turned out the department of pre-crime wasn’t up to preventing bad posts in real time, so we’re back to how the world works: temporarily suspending people from posting due to bad behavior.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 03:49 (three years ago) link

also be sure to spread them out geographically. here are some sock suggestion names to help get you started based on what I know of the area from looking at google maps for 45 seconds, and from my research into the most popular male baby names from British Columbia, Canada, 1970: michael in coquitlam, david in squamish, robert in tsawwassen, jason in chilliwack.

you could also be super sneaky and change up the pattern, like, instead of these, you could go with coquitlammichael23, squamishdave81, tsawwassenbob69, and chilliwackjason420

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

what happened in 2012-2013? 2012 was the year of Twitter's explosive growth iirc, and it's when mobile browsing got really big, they could be factors. Can't remember the board drama of that year.

― stet, Friday, 28 August 2020 21:13 (three weeks ago) link

ahhh...the kitty pryde thread was around that time...

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

why did Left get banned? i like his posts lol

but then i also think some ppl deserve to be condescended to sometimes which is apparently fp-able so what do i know. some of my fav ilx posts were condescending

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 05:38 (three years ago) link

going to assume Left was banned for posting "Dud" in the New Order thread

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 05:42 (three years ago) link

As mentioned elsewhere, the fastest way to collect FPs is to insult fellow posters with a broad brush, which Fred, Left and gabbneb all demonstrated with aplomb.

Allowing any single poster to veto a temp ban based on “this poster I occasionally skimmed over didn’t seem so bad to me” is how we got here. The new social experiment is “let’s use democratically determined temporary time-outs to see if we can put some brakes on the attrition rate.”

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link

yea im just wondering what he did, i didnt see any insults in his recent posts aside from calling a politician the c-word in a britishers politics thread i dont read

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

going to assume Left was banned for posting "Dud" in the New Order thread

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, September 22, 2020 5:42 AM (fifty-two minutes ago)

missed this but i'm guessing left thinks they're fascists because of their name

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 06:36 (three years ago) link

Left did a "kamala is a cop" post shortly before the ban and it is likely that that did it

despacito ergo sum (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link

I know this is posts VMIC and likely to get me clusterfucked, but...

Get a room you two

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 03:14

^^^Tombot, can you not do this? Understanding that you are a mod, can you try to avoid framing beefing between posters as 'flirtation'?

I say this as someone who was told repeatedly by mods during the dom-and-jon years, that long-term, overly personal harassment was 'just flirtation' and told to 'get a room' with men who were eventually banned for their behaviour.

If you are going to be a mod, and hold other people to account, maybe you should start by holding yourself to a higher level of account, and think through what subjects you consider 'jokes'?

Masonic Lockdown (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link

'Get a room' is a perfectly fine and harmless joke in this context, and I know for a fact Tombot holds himself to a high enough account as a mod to consider his jokes. It's not all about you or what happened 10+ years ago.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 08:10 (three years ago) link

It’s great how there’s always a man around, to tell me what ‘jokes’ are!

Masonic Lockdown (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 08:39 (three years ago) link

You're phrase-policing in the worst possible way.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 08:40 (three years ago) link

Left did a "kamala is a cop" post shortly before the ban and it is likely that that did it

― despacito ergo sum (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink

It was his hatred of popular group "The Beatles" that did it

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link

Didn't he have a go at national treasure Ali G too?

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

(also do we know Left is a he? apologies if not)

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

A fun data point is that nearly 8% of all posts Left has ever posted to ILX were flagged. Sorry to disappoint you but none of them were about Ali G.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link

It's like Fred on steroids

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

xpost Thus demonstrating that regularly taking reasonable assertions that most people 'round here can hang with and wrapping them in a 'you sheeple (derisive snort)' construction is a pretty efficient way to get the boot.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:23 (three years ago) link

Left is a poisonous shit and shouldn’t come back

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

sorry if answered upthread but can mods see who has flagged a post?

kinder, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

^^^Tombot, can you not do this? Understanding that you are a mod, can you try to avoid framing beefing between posters as 'flirtation'?

I say this as someone who was told repeatedly by mods during the dom-and-jon years, that long-term, overly personal harassment was 'just flirtation' and told to 'get a room' with men who were eventually banned for their behaviour.

If you are going to be a mod, and hold other people to account, maybe you should start by holding yourself to a higher level of account, and think through what subjects you consider 'jokes'?

― Masonic Lockdown (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:23 AM

I'm not Tombot but I am a mod, so I'll say thanks for letting us know that you don't like this, and I promise I won't ever do it in beefs you are involved with. I'm not extending that promise past that.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link


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