ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

Don't know if this observation was lost somewhere, but yes the leak from Lab to Lib Dem at the last election was of significance.

Usual caveats about crossbreaks, but yes: Labour are currently winning about half of 2019 Lib Dem voters, so 6% of all voters, accounting for this entire increase. The net transfer of voters direct from Tory to Labour is almost zero. https://t.co/SKRjypcx2s pic.twitter.com/oRpHx1NdqL

— Simon (@simonk_133) October 9, 2020

important to win back Lib Dem voters tho, the natural allies of socialism

Keir Starmer:
Approve: 36% (-2)
Disapprove: 23% (+1)

It's telling that there's (presumably) 41% of dgafs between these.

Keir Starmer is the worst deputy prime minister we’ve ever had.

— Chas Newkey-Burden (@allthatchas) October 10, 2020

The Medpro PPE story is interesting. Incorporated in May 2020, awarded a no-bid £122m contract for medical supplies seven weeks later and all the stuff they claim to design, engineer, quality assure, etc appears identical to equipment on Alibaba.

lol https://t.co/cw4T0OW2m4

— joolsd (@joolsd) October 10, 2020

It looks like they’re drop-shipping.

Nothing with Michelle Mone involved ever seems to be quite kosher. This is proper scandal stuff though. Or was, with things mattered

The only national that appears to have picked this up is the Mirror, and I'm wondering why the Guardian, FT or something like Business Insider haven't. Either there's something they can't fully stand up or there's some further investigation going on, or we're in peak Nothing Matters territory.

Might help if Esterson actually linked to a source at any point in that 22 post thread.

If the opposition kicked off about government contracts it perhaps would not have made a difference but it's interesting how it's not even being tried.

Kieth is giving them enough bungee cord to hang themselves with apparently, but nothing matters anyway.

I'd argue that doing nothing, even from a weak position is negligence by the opposition and just strengthens the all encroaching "nothing matters" cloud of doom

can't believe the Labour Party are still doing this unhelpful opposition for the sake of opposition

Leave aside party politics, in the interests of the country it’s time for a serious cross party discussion about the replacement of Boris Johnson. We’re facing the most serious crisis since 2nd World War & it’s become fairly clear we have a PM incapable of fulfilling the office.

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) October 11, 2020

bUt ImAgInE hOw MuCh WoRsE cOrByN wOuLd HaVe BeEn

my favourite beautiful dark fantasy tbh

I haven’t read this yet, still too sad tbh

Jeremy Corbyn speaks to Tribune about his tenure as leader of the Labour Party and how he ‘loved every minute of it,’ despite the challenges. https://t.co/ur80RPlxeB

— Tribune (@tribunemagazine) October 11, 2020

Corbyn claims We lost about 300,000 votes from Labour to the Tories in 2019 there and that was also roughly the total Tory increase on 2017. Ahhh I'll never be over it.

i can get over it, or at least reconcile it to my sense of what this country is, as long as i never read another sensible centrist opinion on social media ever again

thread:

Bordering on the ridiculous
Jane Thomas
With fewer than 90 days to go before we complete the transition period and leave the #EU completely, the #government has finally published its Border Operating Model to explain how the borders will work for freight after #Brexit.

— Maureen Fitzsimmons (@mojos55) October 11, 2020

"I was confronted with this issue at the GMB hustings in Dublin during the 2015 leadership election. The question was on fracking, which the GMB conference had voted to support the day before because they felt that it would provide them jobs. Clearly, there are jobs involved in both the installation and operation of the fracking process, but also, of course, in the manufacturing. I said, ‘Look, I’m sorry. I don’t agree with you on this policy. I’m opposed to fracking for reasons of damage to the aquifers, pollution of the water table, and the fact that it’s going to become a CO2 emitter. But I am in favour of a very big investment in wind, wave, solar, and geothermal energy production. And actually, there are more jobs to be created in that. It’s sustainable in the long term, fracking is not.’"

The rot in the Lab movement goes deep. Very glad to see work from a couple of them that don't touch the party.

Same energy (from the thread Jed posted):

Right now, #Ebbsfleet International, North #Weald Airfield, #Sevington #Ashford, and #Warrington are earmarked as facilities. The government is exploring whether the range of functions at the #Sevington can be expanded to conduct full border control checks

— Maureen Fitzsimmons (@mojos55) October 11, 2020

I think the government might be underestimating the extent to which the Daily Mail is going to savage them for this, without giving a fuck about the logic or consistency of the argument.

My God, what the fuck is wrong with this guy

Keir Starmer refuses to endorse Joe Biden for president over Trump. Says he wouldn’t endorse any presidential candidate, as somebody who wants to become prime minister. #lbc

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) October 12, 2020

Donald Trump, who can say if he’s bad or not?

lol Kieth is so slippery and vague he can't even commit lip service to the basic-melt 101 anyone-but-Trump position that is naturally his.

every day he grows more pathetic and useless, he'll be literally wearing a nappy and sucking a striped lollipop by 2024

Critical support for Sir Keith.

he'd have endorsed Bloomberg

After a nice, humble donation.

every day he grows more pathetic and useless, he'll be literally wearing a nappy and sucking a striped lollipop by 2024

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkHfULSXkAAsfqG?format=jpg&name=medium

lol those halcyon days when Keith was a radical lefty

To be honest I sort of see the argument from a diplomatic point of view but the chances of Trump and Starmer both being in power at the same time are so vanishingly tiny it seems like an irrelevance. Even if Trump does win there'd need to be a General Election in the next four years, and I can see the Tories wanting to bitter-end this Parliament.

i would simply express my support for Ralph Wiggum

This morning's "opposition" is criticising govt for not consulting enough with local leaders before imposing restrictions.
Not criticising the measures or explicitly supporting the local leaders who are fighting against the restrictions. Just finding the narrow window of "things we can point out without taking any position."

Lol.

A story in three parts. pic.twitter.com/902fFnxrjB

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) October 12, 2020

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Interesting piece on black British politicians (and I agree with the piece’s conclusion that the first black PM is much more likely to be a Tory).

if i was a ballerina, i would simply forget about the agonising years of physical pain, intense discipline and constant competition i spent to work in my chosen profession and L E A R N T O C O D E

Yeah, S Bush was saying the same thing — think it's linked in that piece but: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/09/why-first-black-british-prime-minister-likely-be-conservative

Also Kieth has taken a position on something shocker. He is in favour of investigating Darren Crimes for stirring up racial hatred.

Isn't that just another non-story, in that the police are obliged to investigate if someone complains but definitley won't actually do anything?

yeah but it’s a great opportunity to look like you’re Doing Something, which is all that matters

Great to see Jeremy Corbyn, the nasty man of British politics and stain on Labour’s conscience, got destroyed so sensible Labour peers can call for concentration camps to be built on national radio and get zero pushback on it https://t.co/EUBLv4tuXX

— Marcus Barnett (@marcusbarnett_) October 11, 2020

he's come a long way from offering Gove a square go

looking how to become more cyber

— wint (@dril) September 27, 2015

Starmer squandering the political capital he carefully built up by not being recognised by the public

— Rosewood Shoehorn (@apiarism) October 12, 2020

CON: 41% (+1)
LAB: 37% (-1)
LDEM: 7% (-)
GRN: 4% (-)

via
@Survation
, 05 - 06 Oct
Chgs. w/ 16 Sep

fucking dismal

Starmer would be 20 points ahead by now

I can't wait until you start hearing reports from party activists of discontent on the doorsteps of former Labour strongholds: "I'm not voting for him - he's a f-ing Tory!"

Only one MP for Sunderland was invited to the call. She had to inform the government that there are actually three MPs for Sunderland, apparently to some surprise.

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) October 12, 2020