ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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Such offensive language in the mother of all parliaments, begad! What was she thinking about

calzino, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Ha, no guarantee I am correct, I was on my way out at the time.

And waiting for me downstairs was another Tory mail-out, this time complaining about sadiq's congestion charge, or London tax, as they are calling it, and the closing of Hammersmith bridge, which is also sadiq's fault.

koogs, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

no question she's been told to apologise

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

She was never going to be the attention seeking vain knobhead tha Watson was as a deputy leader. But I think Starmer both doesn't like nor trust her and is doing his upmost to marginalise her for the time being. She now might realise what a dream boss the "IRA twat" was!

calzino, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Everyone knows feeding hungry children is a top priority. I'd like to see UC boosted.

But if the economy and currency collapse, the poor will be devastated.

To go from feed 1 in 9 kids at Christmas to currency collapse is some sensationalist bullshit when you've managed to pay for half the country to have a fucking nandos every Tuesday night for a month.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

Difficult to see why any once currency would collapse when the entire rich world is both borrowing and printing gigantic sums of money.

The UK doing that while simultaneously creating a sudden and acute shortage of goods via a No Deal Brexit might do it though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

Brutal week. Even if the polling went 10% lower the mandate is four years.

astonishing how many lives Tory MPs have voted to ruin this week alone, out of sheer spite. And it's only Wednesday pic.twitter.com/gwnXQNgcdk

— tom (@malaiseforever) October 21, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

God, when you see it laid out like that...

Meanwhile this thread might answer at least some of ShariVari's question upthread.

On the Manchester showdown, Brits think Andy Burnham and Boris Johnson are driven by...

Burnham: 38% interests of Manchester / 35% party politics
Johnson: 33% interests of the country / 38% party politicshttps://t.co/WZTRu8en8g pic.twitter.com/eWvyNoGodh

— YouGov (@YouGov) October 21, 2020

Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

The Scottish and Welsh governments have pledged to extend free school meals over the holidays up to and including Easter 2021. English pupils will be the outlier in Great Britain.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 21, 2020

stet, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

Waiting for YouGov poll to show 78% of over-70s blame the parents

stet, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

Repetitive beats is it

What does section 63 of the CJPOA 1994 say?

It’s the definition of an “outdoor rave” which has been carried across.

Needs to involve amplified music which “is likely to cause series distress to the inhabitants of the locality”https://t.co/RjoHymkS6m pic.twitter.com/xcz1FxGQ8i

— Adam Wagner (@AdamWagner1) October 21, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

uh

This HMRC change to VAT on small imports is potentially hugely damaging to free trade and customer choice - article here https://t.co/zzybRFHScC summary below pic.twitter.com/Cyw5QgLPJW

— Paul Lewis (@paullewismoney) October 22, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 22 October 2020 09:41 (three years ago) link

i wonder how paul lewis feels about being a week behind william shatner with that news?

koogs, Thursday, 22 October 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

There’s a reason why No. 10 is always so inclined to ratchet up the tension. Downing Street’s staff, and particularly the Vote Leave alumni, believe that one of their strengths is that in high-pressure situations, they stay calm while others panic https://t.co/vQGLxe1O2j

— James Forsyth (@JGForsyth) October 22, 2020

that man loves himself deeply.

stet, Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

calmly governing as they usually do

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

That man’s wife is Allegra Stratton.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link

I intended Dom when I typed that but on reflection could absolutely have been talking about any one of the shower

stet, Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:41 (three years ago) link

That Forsyth tweet is a very positive spin to put on their apparent inability to anticipate utterly predictable clusterfucks right in front them. It also doesn't make much sense given the number of panicky u-turns they've already report, not to mention the multiple leaks of a rancorous, panicky atmosphere inside Number 10.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link

Also that it never seems to work. Once their created panic is over, they generally cave and do what was plain at the beginning (like going back to trade deal negotiation after all). Holding the line on starving children the rare exception for now.

stet, Thursday, 22 October 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

well, some things are so central to the tory mindset that you can't expect them to give up on them

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 October 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link

Honestly, can barely believe what I’m reading here. 👇

Why on earth was this not put on the table on Tuesday to reach an agreement with us?

I said directly to the PM that a deal was there to be done if it took into account the effects on GM businesses of three months in Tier 2. https://t.co/w2AeeLitGP

— Andy Burnham (@AndyBurnhamGM) October 22, 2020

a point so solid even Laura K struggled to cast shade

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

Pickard is a Tory scrote

stet, Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:23 (three years ago) link

There was a paragraph in a Guardian report yesterday that claimed that the London hospitality sector counts for nearly a quarter of the UK economy, which seems astronomically high to me but might explain the turnaround.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

it would be in Sunak/the Tory Party's interests to make every new package of funds look like a struggle or a concession. like the free school meals, the economic cost isn't really the issue. it's just against normal Tory interests to demonstrate what the State is capable of doing for its citizens, and argument and delay serve to reinforce just how exceptional and not to be made permanent any welfare funding is.

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

London as a whole counts for a quarter of the economy iirc.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 22 October 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

Yeah that rang false to me, although I can believe that the levels of hospitality spending here were extremely high I don't think they were that high.

The government will end up picking up the tab whatever happens, whether it's through higher unemployment benefit, lost business and personal tax revenue, the loss of wider cultural capital (which in turn attracts actual capital), a further hit to GDP by further constraining a lot of people's spending power etc etc. Obviously I've never run the numbers but the costs of not keeping businesses going probably outweigh the costs of doing so, to the extent that keeping them going must be basically free.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 October 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

But yeah NV OTM, plus they don't want the public to realise the extent to which businesses and the state are interdependent.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 October 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

yeah putting aside the horrible nation it reflects that's a smart idea

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

Does this look like an appropriate father/son interaction to you? pic.twitter.com/imI9CupzQw

— black lives matter (@jrc1921) October 22, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek93FflXUAEQGOQ?format=jpg&name=small

lol I already can't stand another minute of this showboating melt mediocrity, but know you are really making hate the the fucker!

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

Britpop and Peterloo Massacre are a terrible concept for a band, we need more Bad Boy Chiller Crew who eschew melty grandstanding politicians and single malt whiskey for a double JC with coke

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

even though he's allegedly some force for good who we should we be impressed with because the bovine Labour membership are a bunch of idiots who voted for someone marginally more conservative than him to lead the Labour party. Fuck Burnham, he's another waste of space. A shallow, clumsy grandstanding poseur, who only impresses those that either lost their mind in '19 or were just wooly-minded shite-talking melts to start with.

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

True story: in 2016 I got a call from the Labour leader's office asking if I could help them put together an all-star grime version of The Internationale

— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) October 22, 2020



Cheers, Labour membership for voting to ensure nobody ever dreams of a better future again, whilst making the party such unpalatable garbage this inconsequential loveliness seems like an impossible dream from a golden era

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 03:52 (three years ago) link

He kept that quiet!

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 23 October 2020 08:01 (three years ago) link

Britpop and Peterloo Massacre are a terrible concept for a band, we need more Bad Boy Chiller Crew who eschew melty grandstanding politicians and single malt whiskey for a double JC with coke

It's such an astonishing, unself-aware line from whoever wrote it that I'm trying to work out who it was. Guessing John Harris but it really could be any of them.

Next election catchline should be "no divvys round here", clearly.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 October 2020 08:59 (three years ago) link

so much to answer for

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 October 2020 09:21 (three years ago) link

up here in the North there's no wage packet jobs for us, thank Christ

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 October 2020 09:22 (three years ago) link

I like Andy Burnham.

And Ken Worthington.

the pinefox, Friday, 23 October 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

This attack was four days after this widely reported tweet from Priti Patel. https://t.co/t6PP6AjndK pic.twitter.com/sRXrZR74w8

— mARGHcus (@marcusjdl) October 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 October 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link

lol Jane Merrick was getting a twitter shellacking as a hypocritical arse for bigging up Rashford after previously ripping the shit out of Corbyn's school meal policy, she couldn't take the heat so has protected her account.

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link

my name is kier
i am a knite,
i live to please
the labour right.
i look like ham;
my face is red
i shud be twenty
points ahed.

— R I Peach ☭ (@peachlux_) October 23, 2020

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Nationwide adverts getting better

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 October 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

Some choice quotes from Kent MPs in the local press:

"The current Conservative government only decided to introduce a voucher scheme because, during the Covid-19 lockdown and later summer months, many people were not able to work and were struggling financially. However, as more people can work, the argument for continuing to provide free school meals for a period stretching into spring next year, becomes difficult to sustain."

https://i.postimg.cc/76SZwCNQ/2-AIKKE0-QROFHW74-BDMBB.jpg

"You suggest that I voted against free school meals. This is untrue. The original motion, put by Labour as part of their regular ‘Opposition Day debate’ opportunities, are an entrenched feature of our Parliamentary system and are designed to be purely political and often follow the ‘mother and apple pie’ formula of looking so reasonable that they couldn’t possibly be opposed.

"Such motions, even if carried, have no statutory basis and don’t become new law, it is the role of government to bring to Parliament new law and spending plans which Parliament can then consider soberly.

"Such opposition day motions are never supported by whichever governing party. This is all part of the weft and weave of our system."

https://i.postimg.cc/CxZYwBhH/UTWJ5-PP74-VPWH8-AF7-LQF.jpg

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 23 October 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

Every male in this video will be bald within five years pic.twitter.com/D5cvOa7Uk7

— black lives matter (@jrc1921) October 23, 2020

this is why some countries programs to liquidate their accursed landed gentry were very popular with a majority of their population.

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

the main guy honestly looks 55-60yo.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 23 October 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

EXC: Tory co-chairman @amandamilling & more than 100 backbenchers have written to Keir Starmer tonight to warn that @AngelaRayner’s “Tory scum” jibe has led to widespread abuse of Conservative MPs pic.twitter.com/DqLnHIsi3L

— John Stevens (@johnestevens) October 23, 2020

lol, make this shit up couldn't

calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

huge congrats to angela rayner

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 October 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link


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