Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

tbf, wealthy powerful elite conservatives don’t really have any ideological issues with the demands of their constituents. or if they do, it’s mostly just aesthetic, and those regressive policies are never going to actually apply to them (the elite)... while the Democratic elite are very much at odds with large portions of people they rely on for votes.

Xpost to Aimless

the massive electoral advantage the GOP enjoys in the face of shrinking demographics while anchoring themselves to generally unpopular policies is noteworthy. but the lack of ideological daylight between their voters and their leadership probably doesn’t hurt, either.

yet you seem to believe that the system isn't full of ratfucking shills like Biden

Of course the system is full of what you choose to call ratfucking shills, because the people who benefit from that have been working on that outcome since before any of us were born. I know US history and have lived through a fair chunk of it. The nation is about 240 years old and I'm about 66 years old. But each time the ratfucking shills gave ground it was because people organized and acted, not because they complained.

2021 needs progressive libs who are actually badasses with acid tongues. more AOC, not more wistful teary-eyed politicians who keep saying "somebody should do something, I harshly condemn these actions!"

But each time the ratfucking shills gave ground it was because people organized and acted, not because they complained.

You always fail to recognize that these are not mutually exclusive. People have sat around in their living room bitching to their friends about the boss's bullshit or the crooked mayor's bullshit or the scumsucking local feudal lord's bullshit for time immemorial. That's part of the process. Anger builds to organization in many ways.

And so what do you call this summer's protests, Aimless, and the Biden camp's response? Movement out on the streets for months, every day.

"Shoot em in the knees instead."

If you can't fathom why people are disgusted by our current political system and are also too worn out by trying to survive to start revolutionary cells to overthrow it, then you understand less about human nature than you think you do.

And for the record, I have been participating in political organizing of some kind for a long while.

Aimless the system was not “designed to work like this”

And so what do you call this summer's protests, Aimless, and the Biden camp's response?

I call that effective organizing by BLM, bringing a million people to the street who would not have been in the street without BLM organizers laying the groundwork since 2014. But ultimately it's the failure of progressives to find enough votes to nominate a better candidate than Biden. He's the nominee because he won the numbers game. But electing a president whose first allegiance is to progressives and our issues is more like the final step in a long progression, the ripe fruit of organizing on a national scale.

Getting Sanders recognized as a serious contender who could pull in money and votes in the millions was a big step forward. Biden now considers progressives to be a key piece in his coalition, which is helpful, but not decisive. Electing many new articulate progressive representatives like AOC, Ilhan Omar and company was indicative of moving the ball ahead in ways that I haven't seen for decades. It's all very encouraging to me after watching politics since the mid-60s.

Aimless the system was not “designed to work like this”

Why do you say that? The current system was designed by the people who are running that system. It keeps evolving its design and what we have now would be wholly unrecognizable to someone from 50 years ago, let alone 200 years ago.

Aimless the system was not “designed to work like this”

― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, October 22, 2020 6:49 PM bookmarkflaglink

lol

Here's some good discussion fodder for the What Needs to Be Done Leftist Strategy Meeting thread:

"The Bernie Organizers Who Want to Elect Biden—Then Defeat Him"
https://newrepublic.com/article/159880/bernie-supporters-organizers-for-biden

I mean, the system was originally designed so that I was only worth 60% of most of you so having it be slanted against a given demographic seems to be a feature, not a bug

Dude!! Welcome back. I assume you’re gonna post like maybe one more time and then disappear again, but welcome back.

Hello again Tombot. afraid you're right -- i'm probably gonna disappear again shortly, i don't have as much time these days. but i'll be around for a short while anyway. and i am a bit embarrassed that i was the one that created this thread, in light of everything that's happened between then and now.

SPITTING FIRE

Obama SPITTING FIRE stumping for Biden in Miami:

"Joe Biden is not a socialist. He was a Senator from Delaware, he was my VP... I think people would know if he was a socialist by now."

— Charlotte Alter (@CharlotteAlter) October 24, 2020

tbf, Obama is in Florida where Biden is being tarred as a combination of Stalin and Fidel Castro.

an interesting application of the term "spitting fire"

that was kinda "last name: ever, first name: greatest" levels of spitting

last name Biden, first name not a socialist

joe knows that 80% of his coalition are broadly within the anti-stalinist western marxist tradition and he's gambling that the other 20% - mostly hardcore anti-revisionists - have nowhere else to go. let's see how that plays out in the tankbelt though https://t.co/9d11UAVVvs

— Rory Scothorne (@shirkerism) October 25, 2020

The Unbearable Lightness of Biden

(Aaaaand, that's it, folks. The most literary, the most erudite, yet still somehow stupid #dadjokey pun post I have ever made, and likely will ever make. I should probably retire.)

Dadjoking is an incurable degenerative disease. Take it from one who knows.

Oh Boy, Big Daddy Biden going to continue to topple democratically elected leaders for sweet, sweet resources while blaming it all on leftists and the specter of communism!

God I fucking hate this asshole

He’ll make the CIA great again.

So seems like most are hoping he gets in so we can wait around 4 years for something better.
I guess it's just a matter of.....

Biden our time

<dadjoke armsrace>

80% of his coalition are broadly within the anti-stalinist western marxist tradition

...no?

I had trouble cutting through that thicket of adjectives too.

I just assumed xyz was posting that tweet for the lolz, which is clearly its intended purpose anyway

It is for the lolz, Rory is a commentator on English and Scottish Politics.

Obv that Biden tweet is one for the 'we'll make sanctions great again' pile.

honestly "Biden our Time" is probably where a lot of us are at tbh --

but seriously, did a lot of y'all not have to take improv in school because some of you really need to work on your "Yes! And"s

like Yes! organizing and activism is what leads to progressive change and I do what I can IRL AND we can complain about the current state of politics on ILX

YES improv is annoying AND i fp'd you

for this first debate, I'm looking for a type of event, a gathering that a lot of people would attend.

I'm looking for three distinct movie genres.

I'm also looking for a celebrity that would appear in them.

ok, who has suggestions

it's milo z tompkins time

YES improv is annoying AND i fp'd you

― The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, October 26, 2020 11:54 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago)

YES I LOL-ed AND i loL-ED AT nEAnderthal's homage

What kind of school makes you take improv?

Clown college

Drama class, and a lot of goofy self-help groups

I'll thank you not to refer to Princeton that way

xp

Look, just because I went to Oberlin...

(points at ttitt) Hah! Aha! (points again) Oberlin! (nods crazily, starts to chuckle quietly) An Oberliner! Yup! Now I see...table went to Oberlin. (pounds fist into open palm) Damn! (exits stage left, mumbling happily)

Amazing how a simple if stupid joke can be taken so poorly by someone two decades my senior.

poorly?

ironic

don't you think

I graduated from that notorious madhouse of artsy radicals, The Evergreen State College. If anyone understands Oberlin's snickersome reputation vs. its reality, it's a Geoduck from TESC.

i went to the university of your mom

I went to Your Mom State and lemme tell ya, I graduated magna cum loud!!!

what was yr major?