ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

back in the day if we found sharp bits of metal in our food we didn't moan about it. we'd put in the scrap bin and by the end of the year we'd have enough scrap to buy a tin of condensed milk that would last us for weeks, we'd even use the mold as seasoning.

What connects the Chelsea coach Frank Lampard and Boris Johnson? They're both identified with the colour blue, went to private school and are trying to find a way to contain Marcus Rashford. There is one important difference, however: Lampard managed it.

ho ho (SBush)

and also they are both complete c... erm I mean both completely contemptible posh wallies!

Earlier I saw one of these food budgeting egg-spurts who seems to think you can boil an egg in two minutes, get that scorching protein drink in a shell down your neck kids.

I like how they never address what happens as soon as an expense like shoes comes along, fuckwits. Ignorant, soulless fuckwits

some people don't have the energy and time to cook from scratch, and lots of quick to cook stuff tends to be relatively expensive. Not that any of these arseholes seem to have the first clue about cooking themselves.

Mate I find it hard as fuck to manage myself on UC, having a family must take incredible reserves of energy

at least in Wales the First Minister has tried to make it easier for people facing tough budgeting decisions by declaring anything but potatoes and milk as frivolous and sinful!

Obv your kids can go to school barefoot and nekkid

yeah but they've all got smartphones (on 36 month contracts) and 44" tv's from Legbreaking Electricals. Nuff GDP (got decent products!)

And some of the parents eat food too, the feckless parasites

Those will be the same phones people need to look for work

Hadn’t seen them calling for fucking foraging but don’t put it past them

Right let's clear a few things up about food...

1. A £2 chicken won't make 3 family meals without A Lot of help. Potatoes, carrots, peas, gravy, bread, butter, salt, pepper & oil. Minimum. 1-2h of fuel for the big oven. Hot water to wash up.

£10ish provided you have utensils?

— Roadside Mum 🐯 (@RoadsideMum) October 25, 2020

plenty of protein in nettles, lad!

https://www.herbalremediesadvice.org/images/Nettle-Benefits.jpg

Bring back Woolton Pies

Having grown up with a mum who practically weighed out our Rice Krispies to make sure it didn’t run out before her next payday, I would like to throttle every Daily Mail contributor/reader with ‘helpful’ food advice.

unspoken (6) on the nettles, tricking pampered townies into getting themselves hideously stung

"the big ones are the worst, the little green ones barely hurt at all!"

That thread from @roadsidemum is a world of otm. So many patronising clowns out there reminding us how much we could save if only we could deny our children protein and fresh vegetables.

Boris Johnson has defended his refusal to extend free school meals for children in England over the half-term holiday, saying he was "very proud" of the government's support so far.

"I totally understand the issue of holiday hunger," he said. "The debate is, how do you deal with it."

Pretty sure you deal with it by feeding them. There appears to be a vast propaganda machine grinding into operation to explain to everyone how complex this really is and how FSM isn't the solution, probably because the public mood is against them.

We've seen this happen before, most obviously after Grenfell, when the country appears to realise that something had become dangerously unsustainable, so the government has a vested interest in making sure the country forgets about it and moves onto something else as quickly as possible. Credit to Rashford for keeping going (and clearly this is happening because it's coming from a footballer rather than a politician).

I chuckled at that scene in The Sopranos where Feech makes Junior a foraged dandelion salad and Tony says oh yeah he just saw a dog pissing on that patch.

some of these people post like they really haven't cooked before. And they are probably aren't rich enough for a below stairs in their house, so I presume they live on M+S readymeals, incinerate the odd brisket and occasionally pretend to have some culinary skills for the sake of dumping on poor people.

Without being stereotypical there's a lot of blokes doing this shit who I suspect have never faced the reality of feeding a household for a day, never mind months, years.

I cook from scratch a lot, probably 90% of meals. I'm fairly frugal when it comes to food shopping.

It costs a fucking fortune.

If I had to do it on UC my solution would be to cry a lot.

things like herbs, spices, oils, tomato puree, rice, tinned tomatoes used to be much cheaper at the Asian supermarket in pre-Rona times. Now all my shopping is online supermarkets it bloody is expensive.

not to mention the time involved in cooking. If you've been on your feet in a shop for eight hours and then a half hour on the bus each way, do you then want to spend an hour chopping and peeling veg and washing up when you've already got barely any time to actually spend with the kids?

At least now you can shop online. My mother would never had the energy at 6pm to take us round the aisles hunting for spices and vegetables that weren't potatoes. It was a bag of frozen chips and dippers, and the fifteen mins in the oven was her everyday housework window.

Online shopping is its own extra expense as calz said. I can't throw an extra 4 quid at that most weeks

I remember once going to a friend's for dinner in high school and being blown away by the meal of a roast turkey and potatoes coated in rosemary, it seemed such an exotic flavour to my palette of Bernard Matthews meat and Pot Noodles

"The debate is, how do you deal with it."

What Tories mean here is that they obviously want it dealt with by Big Society. I guess what will be interesting to see is how much they suffer in polls in exchange for getting exactly the solution they want (child poverty and similar issues treated by a combination of 'do gooders' citizens, celebrity philanthropists, charities and corporations - rather than taxes).

Sadly I don't think anyone falls in polls because of child hunger but I did enjoy the retro Big Society callback.

As I've said before, their main agenda is to maintain as minimal a state as they can get away with. The actual finances are surely an irrelevance.

The trick with Asian bulk shopping is to wait until just before Diwali, Ramadan or either Eid to restock on spices, rice, and cans because the offers are unreal! I’ve just scored coconut oil for £2 and chickpeas at 4 for £1, and I’m looking forward to that £5 bag of five kilos of basmati that lasts me six months.

My local Sainsbury was selling 1kg bags of basmati for 25p a few weeks ago, stocked up for the year. No £2 chickens of course.

Frankie Boyle: There could be a good reality TV show where all the folk who want to show how they can make a nutritious meal for 25p get together and cook their dishes in a shipping container that we drop onto the floor of the Atlantic Ocean at its very deepest point.

Attitudes on the generosity of the welfare system have shifted dramatically over the last 7 years.

Are benefit payments...
Too high 17% (-20)
Too low 32% (+11)
About right 23% (-3)
Don't know 27% (+11)

Changes since April 2013https://t.co/z03BWUeWpl

— Chris Curtis (@chriscurtis94) October 26, 2020

Previous participants a decade ago might have blithely listened to the tommyrot from politicians about how UC was fair and incentivised work rather than welfare dependence. Now that millions of people have either had to sign on, who otherwise might have felt somewhat insulated from the world of benefits scum. Well now they really know firsthand or possibly from friends what a fucking shit show it really is.

obv by politicians I don't mean exclusively Tories, because the project to demonise the concept of the benefits system was a cross-party project that was ongoing for decades. Like with a lot of things, Blair attacked this right-wing project with much more gusto than the sputtering Major regime thought they could get away with, without getting an electoral kicking.

Apparently if you disagree that vouchers is the only way to solve poverty this is what happens. Some on the left always try to bully their way through politics & caricature the right as evil (or scum) for merely disagreeing. I’m afraid that sort of politics just doesn’t work pic.twitter.com/0wEjZtBdmP

— Gary Sambrook MP (@GarySambrook89) October 26, 2020

30 something yr old Tory MPs have been a real force on twitter lately, although I'd like to see some ID to confirm he's in that category.

Inevitable but still

pic.twitter.com/h0QKSDVTCU

— Andy (@bigandylock) October 26, 2020

Such odd graffiti.

We had a wall in town once with 'PC Morton Canny Run!' on it - stayed there for months

My car now stinks after picking up over 30 boxes of fish and chips. The things I do for the Tory Party!

— Gary Sambrook MP (@GarySambrook89) November 27, 2013

I can't help wondering if PC Morton had a bad case of the wirrums

100% the other 29 Tories just wanted to get him away from them for half an hour.

What kind of fish?
What?
What kind of fish?
I don't know... The kind you eat? A fish!
You don't know what kind?
No I don't.
Where'd you get it?
What the fuck? A fish place!

When your dinner is big https://t.co/f9z5YZLNOS

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) October 26, 2020

at times like this I love twitter

alexa, play The Poor Law

SUN EXC: Sir Keir Starmer under police investigation following car crash that hospitalised a cyclist on Sunday: https://t.co/jIDKKCtBdI

— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) October 26, 2020

Starmer in his bid to be not 20 pts ahead of the worst Tories we've had since the early 20th century is doing a fucking stellar job.

pretty sure he injured them forensically

this will probably help him

especially if the cyclist had lazy school meal chomping parasites

might have been better if fatally injured some kid on an electric scooter, one to focus group next methinks.