GET OUT: US politics November 2020

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (9722 of them)

Judge was probably elected, and therefore biased toward Democracy. Not fair!

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

So, I finally called the Chicago Board of Elections yesterday about the fact that the mail-in ballot that I put in a drop box two weeks ago still hadn't been registered in the system as accepted. They suggested that I vote in person and sign an affidavit to cancel the mail-in ballot if it ever turns up. So I stood in line at an early voting site this morning and did that, and now I at least have the peace of mind of knowing that I did my part.

jaymc, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

This is Trump's real impeachment trial. The US Senate fucked it up the last time.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

I mean that's literally what Nancy and everyone else who kneecapped the investigation last time said

frogbs, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

which is gonna make it all the more infuriating if Biden wins by 5 but still loses the EC

frogbs, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

then we would DEFINITELY have to start planning on thinking of opening up more serious questions related to the exploration of reimagining the election system in this country

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

One man, one vote. (I am the man in question.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

but now is not the right time. August 2021 has been designated as the one month that would be the best fit for discussion election reform, in the following term. let's not push it into September 2021 either, because obviously the FY will be coming up and some things have to take priority

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

a nation puts its voting trust into one man, ned raggett.

LEGALIZE IT NED!

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

here's my election night plan for unclenching.

these are the states that might declare on the night in order of how much a biden win would make me unclench.

if trump sweeps all five of these then a legal fight in PA (if not actual violence) seems likely and i will thus remain clenched.

TEXAS
miiiiight declare on election night
a long shot obviously, but worth so many EVs that it's pretty much a done deal if it goes biden

FLORIDA
will probably declare on election night, probably first among these states
toss up. if it goes biden it's basically over AFAICT

OHIO
miiiiight declare on election night
bit of a long shot for biden, worth a decent number of EVs, but the main thing is that if it goes biden it's a very strong sign that PA should be OK
see https://newrepublic.com/article/160022/ohio-state-watch-election-night

NORTH CAROLINA
will probably declare on election night
basically the same deal as ohio

ARIZONA
will probably declare on election night
if biden wins this and there are not 10+ point surprises in WI and MI (or anywhere else) then it's over in principle (but this happening, biden winning WI and MI and the single votes in maine and nebraska, and trump winning everything else he won in 2016 gives biden a 1-2 vote win in the EC, so the possibility of legal shenanigans etc. would make me a little nervous to unclench on this alone).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

I'll relax tomorrow night if Biden takes any two of those states (and I'd add Georgia to the list)

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

Biden's PA barnstorm today includes stops in all three counties that swung from Obama to Trump in 2016: Erie, Luzerne and Northampton.

— Julia Terruso (@JuliaTerruso) November 2, 2020

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

xp georgia won't declare on the night, but definitely.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

Early vote to 96.5 million -- we are now at 70% of the entire voting turnout of 2016.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

I voted (in PA) so many weeks ago, I kinda feel like I should get to do it again

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

lol

This cracks me up: Crystal Ball lists FL as R and their reason is explicitly the same as nervous D's and contains the caveat they've been wrong four cycles in a row (!!!!) https://t.co/uWPeluTG9k pic.twitter.com/PB5sVRqaqq

— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) November 2, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

Crystal Ball with the emotional hedge!

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

also this made me smile:

No. https://t.co/3UaNxY1DSs

— Harris County Clerk (@HarrisVotes) November 2, 2020

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

Hey Trump just promised to fire Fauci. That seems important, insane, unsurprising, newsworthy, scary, and bad politics.

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) November 2, 2020

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

Even if President Trump finds himself awarded the same fate as impeached President Richard Nixon — that is to say, either not charged with or pardoned of any hypothetical federal crimes — there’s no chance he will slink away from public life.

And the reason is two-fold: First he probably won’t be legally allowed to. He or his predecessor could pardon him of any federal charges lobbed against him post-presidency. But he has no control over the outcome of various state investigations into his business — most notably the one by Cyrus Vance in New York, looking into his businesses.

But, secondly, like any addict, Trump’s cravings for attention will not be easily satiated post-presidency by the mere fame and fortune that being a former leader of the free world brings. A new article in the New Yorker spells out just how dependent President Trump has become on his throngs of fans for personal fulfillment, incapable of returning to the life of a real estate mogul or a has-been celebrity that evokes little adoration or interest outside the realm of reality TV.

From the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer:

"Last winter, a Cabinet secretary told me Trump had confided that he couldn’t imagine returning to his former life as a real-estate developer. As the Cabinet secretary recalled, the two men were gliding along in a motorcade, surrounded by throngs of adoring supporters, when Trump remarked, “Isn’t this incredible? After this, I could never return to ordering windows. It would be so boring.”

President Trump apparently has his sights set on remaining relevant to his base, even if that base of supporters no longer has a leader to devote themselves to. As morbid as it may seem, President Trump is, according to Mayer’s reporting, interested in taking over Rush Limbaugh’s radio show if the longtime feverish conservative commentator passes away (he has stage four lung cancer). Trump awarded Limbaugh the Presidential Medal of Freedom in January, during a made-for-reality-TV State of the Union address

don't expect a slinking return to irrelevance

wasn't expecting it, tbh, but good to know

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

trump taking over for rush would kind of be perfect though

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

give him the same $50M+/yr salary! that will be the most consistently profitable trump enterprise he's ever been involved with

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

and as a bonus, much of his fanbase is reduced to screaming in their cars

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

He or his predecessor could pardon him of any federal charges lobbed against him post-presidency.

Uh, do u maybe mean 'successor' TPM? Or is Trump gonna have to start kissing some major Obama ass?

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

omg taking over for Rush would be perfect for that guy. I mean, I would prefer he died, but still, by all means, lock the guy in a bunker and let me ignore him for the rest of his life as I've ignored Rush Limbaugh.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

i hate it just because it's a really solid financial life preserver for him, i want him to die in poverty

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

RW media is incredibly well funded by billionaire chuds, so that seems highly unlikely to ever happen.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

If the reporting is correct, Trump has $900 million in debt falling due in the next four years.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

really hard for a guy with 30-40 million rabid fans to not find a way to make money off them

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

let me ignore him for the rest of his life as I've ignored Rush Limbaugh.

exactly. i mean, i hate rush limbaugh with a burning passion, and i was so happy when i learned he was getting closer to dying, at some point i think i just told myself he was dead. so i had to check wikipedia just now to check. still alive - for now. anyway, i hate his fucking guts, but that's for personal reasons, not because i actually have to listen to him or see him that often, if ever. somehow he is widely heard and emulated and respected by the worst people, influential in his own way, but his toxic bullshit is bottled up inside cars and the headphones of that one guy in the office who fucking sucks. for trump to stuff himself into that same bottle would be so satisfying

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

xp, you'd think, but he lost money running a casino

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

NYS charges seem to be the most likely knife; this headline piece in the New Yorker covers most of the post-election permutations and should be non-registration accessible?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/09/why-trump-cant-afford-to-lose

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Early vote at 97 million.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

A grisly thought

“Love me women of the suburbs. Love me.”—President Trump in Scranton, PA.

— Michael C. Bender (@MichaelCBender) November 2, 2020

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

*chef kiss*

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

In less guarded moments, the president over recent weeks has told advisers he is worried about new prosecutions, including by federal prosecutors, if he loses https://t.co/egobOGceFl

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 2, 2020

I know there are so many more important things at stake right now but seriously I'll be pissed if we'll be deprived the opportunity to watch this worm spend the rest of his life in court, slowly going broke

frogbs, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

but everyone knows that the casino business is the most rigged against the owners, the owners are treated the least fairly. it is very hard to make money running a casino, the odds are stacked against you from the second you make the deal

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

In a statement sent Monday morning after the order was published, Nevada Republican Party Chair Michael McDonald said the ruling "should send a chill down every Nevadan’s spine" and that the party was evaluating an expedited appeal to the state Supreme Court.

gotta love this literal appeal to people's lizard brains

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crĂĽt), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link


I know there are so many more important things at stake right now but seriously I'll be pissed if we'll be deprived the opportunity to watch this worm spend the rest of his life in court, slowly going broke


Criminal and civil prosecution of white collar crime at the level we briefly managed in the 90s would be an important thing!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

man i definitely fake it to some degree at my job but reading this kind of thing almost makes me break a sweat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El2CEaXW0AEyhWa?format=jpg&name=900x900

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/02/upshot/needle-election-forecast.html

It’s back (for Georgia, Florida and North Carolina only).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

hell no

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crĂĽt), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

god fuck that

frogbs, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

avoid used needles

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

Has anyone mentioned Sam Wang in 2020 or is the name too traumatic?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

needle + dread

calzino, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

Whomp whomp

BREAKING: Judge Hanen holds the plaintiffs don't have standing in Texas drive-thru voting case.

GOP challengers lose.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 2, 2020

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

nice

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 2 November 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link


This thread has been locked by an administrator

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.