our backyard hangouts (or front porch) involve safe distances, but people do go inside to use the bathroom (one at a time). we've also been doing the thing where everyone brings their own coolers for drinks!
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 16 November 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
As I understand it, going inisde to use a bathroom is not a significant risk in COVID terms - the risk is from extended time together indoors (15 minutes+).
We don't have a lot of information about COVID survival on surfaces like sinks and door handles and such, but we do seem to have a lot on breathing/talking/singing in close proximity for extended periods of time.
Anecdotally, as I said, my daughter went into my sister's house for 20-ish minutes and emerged with a positive case of... strep throat.
― coupvfefe (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 November 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
put south dakota nurse on fox news imo
it would be weird to expose them to truth for a few minutes, but it might change a few minds
― @oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 November 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
This is good! In this house there's a half-bathroom right inside the sliding doors that open to a porch, which is how we've had ~3 small, outdoor, distanced visits from friends & family. We just leave the doors open for airflow and no one lingers or goes further inside.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 16 November 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
I was wondering other day while I was out with my 12 year old son shopping for some winter boots that whenever he will end up having his first tequila shot if it will remind him immediately of this pandemic
― silverfish, Monday, 16 November 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
when will the "individual responsibility doesn't matter! the government botched the response, which means you can't spread covid because orange man bad" crowd learn that none of us are remotely angry at essential workers or people who HAVE to be outside and around people, it's the people who have the choice not to, and do so anyway for frivolous reasons, who generally tend to be privileged
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
won't somebody think of the demoralized nyu undergrads
Yes, don't worry guys, the USA is not the only country with idiots, people are going stir crazy the world over.― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, November 16, 2020 9:47 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglinkAnd I'm loath to call a lot of them idiots for that reason.― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, November 16, 2020 9:47 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, November 16, 2020 9:47 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
And I'm loath to call a lot of them idiots for that reason.
this is not what's happening in the US.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link
well, it is like it's happening everywhere, but it's not the reason the great plains are the worst places to be on earth right now.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link
Tbf the Great Plains are always awful
― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link
love it or leave it
― @oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
the badlands are extra bad right now
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
whoa whoa whoa whoa
― mookieproof, Monday, 16 November 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
You mean it isn't the Uk?
sorry to report that you must try harder
1 Belgium 1,255.74 (deaths per million)2 Peru 1,082.023 Spain 866.014 Argentina 788.545 Brazil 785.596 Chile 781.927 United Kingdom 775.688 Mexico 772.429 Bolivia 768.610 Moldova 759.711 Italy 750.112 Ecuador 748.7213 USA 746.914 Panama 676.5715 Colombia 676.0316 North Macedonia 626.3617 France 625.8318 Sweden 599.2919 Armenia 596.0720 Czechia 581.8321 Bosnia and Herzegovina 572.2522 Iran 500.4323 Netherlands 485.3824 Romania 461.1425 Kosovo 458.1326 Ireland 400.4927 Switzerland 392.8928 Slovenia 381.7129 South Africa 345.6630 Portugal 329.2331 Hungary 316.9932 Costa Rica 306.2933 Bulgaria 305.3434 Israel 301.7735 Iraq 296.8736 Puerto Rico 292.7637 Canada 292.6638 Honduras 289.6539 Poland 272.5240 Oman 268.9541 Croatia 257.942 Guatemala 236.8143 Russia 227.78
146 Thailand 0.86147 Papua New Guinea 0.8148 Vietnam 0.36149 Tanzania 0.36150 Burundi 0.09
― @oneposter (💹) (sic), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link
Not bad though.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, November 16, 2020 1:41 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
How bout you go fuck yourself
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
Belgium only has 1/6 the population, they're really going for it.
Will keep this spreadsheet open for a few hours if anyone has other countries they want to ask about.
(The USA is at 245,162 total deaths on today's figures, with a 50% per-day increase: guessing that as weekend counting comes in, the president's score might cross a quarter-million. India is the only country other than Brazil with a total score over 100k, and they have 1.3billion population.)
― @oneposter (💹) (sic), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link
Tbf the Great Plains are always awful― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, November 16, 2020 1:41 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinkHow bout you go fuck yourself
― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link
I've lived there for brief periods, spent a fair amount of time traveling in it.
It's certain some of the most beautiful country on the continent, much better than anything on the eastern fucking seaboard, that's for sure.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link
Euler doesn’t even live in America anymore, don’t listen to his America opinions
― is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
Admittedly, my reaction wouldn't have been so strong if I'd known you'd lived there at all, so my apologies. Thought it was typical "coastal person moved to France" type of situation.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
I lived there for eight years. How about you?
― All cars are bad (Euler)
god the way Sinatra sings this line devastates me
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
I’ve never lived on the east coast, just Deep South, Midwest, Great Plains and the Bay Area for a couple of years.
― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
Knew the Bay Area part from other threads.
I think that I have a tendency to defend "flyover" country, mostly because I think it's so beautiful. Like, you want to see an ugly state? Come to Pennsylvania. Total shithole.
But Western Nebraska? Wyoming? the Dakotas? Beautiful.
Now, that's not to say anything of the honkies living in those places, who are mostly terrible from my time spent with 'em, but...
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link
Yeah I came to appreciate the beauty of the Flint Hills, my home during that time, but it was no place for culture.
― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link
I think most of the country is pretty or full of pretty stuff except for, basically, Indiana, much of Ohio, most of Illinois ... I'm not even sure Illinois has a single national park. Kansas has never impressed me, either.
PA is really pretty, I don't know what you're talking about.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 November 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
lol
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link
Southern Indiana is very pretty. It's also mostly a place you very much don't want to visit, unfortunately.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link
PS is so beautiful!!! lol c'mon now
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link
I mean PA obv. The hills all along 80 are gorgeous, so is the farm country around Lancaster, in a different way. Lancaster itself as a city is a jewel box! Admittedly I have a friend who grew up in rural NE PA and she says it killed her soul (she lives literally on the other side of the world now in Aus, I guess that's how far she had to go to get away), but it's objectively beautiful.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
Wasn't there a period when ILX wondered why all the valuable women posters were leaving?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
rural NE PA
can confirm is beautiful, soul-killing
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
I grew up in SE PA and it was more gorgeous than I could ever appreciate at the time. Not soul killing, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link
I mean, compared to Chicagoland, Pennsylvania is pretty, but that's not saying much.
And xpost to Aimless, bless your heart.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
Anyway, new restrictions here in Philly mean I just requested a million library books and will have a heavy saddle-bag riding my bike home from campus later this week.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
lol at all y'all yinz acting like you know every corner of every state commonwealth
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link
bless your heart
have nice day and thank you for shopping ILX
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link
i'll have a BLESSED day instead thank you very much
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link
Too blessed to be stressed, right.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNj6spCtUE0
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
I'm surprised, if not exactly shocked, that I know at least a couple of families doing a whole house quarantine for 14 days in advance of Thanksgiving, with whoever they plan to be with supposedly doing the same. My family has never been particularly sentimental, and Thanksgiving in particular has never been a big deal. I like the food a lot, but at the end of the day ... it's just another day. And yet even acknowledging that not everyone feels the same, given the circumstances I'm not sure why anyone would risk a bigger family gathering just for the sake of tradition. I do appreciate that they are being as safe as they can, but what does it even mean these days? You'd think that anyone aware and cautious enough to quarantine for 14 days would also be aware of the inherant risk regardless of precautions. Like, why not just plan a feast to end all feasts when this thing has run its course, rather than risk putting someone in the dinner party in danger?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
My house and another are in a 14 day quarantine right now as we will be traveling to stay with in Chicago later this week. Nothing traditional about this to us as we’ve never hung out with these friends for any holidays but we trust them (more than our families) plus our sons birthdays are a day apart this coming weekend and we want to give them something at least sort of fun. Especially because our kid is an only and desperately needs to interact with others.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
xp Hope they're willing to at quarantine 14 days after Thanksgiving as well
― Nhex, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
We did a similar lockdown with the same crew this summer at a beach house in Michigan and it was so absolutely worth it but it is going to be harder being totally house bound with no lake or woods access. But Binnys delivers so there is that
― joygoat, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
If every person attending does in fact quarantine for 14 days before gathering and is symptom-free, that does seem pretty low-risk though? It's probably less risky than them all going to the grocery store themselves and having a Zoom Thanksgiving.
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
I mean, the 14-day quarantine thing seems like a way to mitigate risk, but as pointed out, only if everyone does it AFTER the event as well. But even if I wanted to do that, I can never guarantee even a 7-day quarantine for myself with my work responsibilities. I work from home 95% of the time, as I have since March, but at least once every two weeks I have to go into work to visit a project in progress or to address some of the COVID signage/renovations for campus.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
It’s easier for us because all four adults are able to work 100% from home and have been since March. Our friends in Chicago straight up didn’t leave their house at all for three months this spring. Not trying to be hyperbolic here but we are all trusting each other with our lives.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
Honestly didn't leave their house for three months? I mean, good for them if they're that strong, but that just seems so implausible to me. Not even a walk around the block? No trip to a store? Gas station? Didn't walk the dog?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
No dog, no walks around the block, no gas station (cause no driving), grocery delivery only, etc. They live in a house with a backyard and one of them has really serious anxiety so staying put was preferable.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
Mad respect, I wish I could pull that off.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link