ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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this new vaccine is 94% effective so we've ordered enough to cover the 6% who are left #maths

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Monday, 16 November 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

after the unguarded offensive comment by Boris on devolution, Douglas Ross says it's the SNP's "obsession with another independence ref that has been a disaster". Very strange position to take considering they probably would have been as nearly wiped out as Labour in Scotland if not for the sectarian bigotry they could whip up in response to SNP's calls for indie-ref 2.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link

Boris has clarified that it's separatists and nationalists that are (checks notes, twice) bad.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:36 (three years ago) link

give rashford LOTO job til end't season

||||||||, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

Boris Johnson clarifying devolution is ok but only if you vote for unionist parties.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link

arguably if not for the SNP giving a new lease of life to Unionists in Scotland, not only would the tories have got wiped out - we might have had a Corbyn minority govt! But Scottish Tories do love that cake you can have and eat.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

ffs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54974373

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

i'm sure this is perfectly normal and he has no personal connections to the government whatsoever

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

there is nothing we can do about this now that both main parties are in agreement that the only efficient way of doing grand political corruption is through the private sector and keeping onside with our billionaire donor pals. I don't even get mad any more, it's a waste of time even giving any modicum of a fuck!

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

Jeremy Corbyn readmitted to Labour!

scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

the statement today was pretty unarguable, got to admit i was disappointed by some of the Twitter Left calling it a capitulation

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

time for a leadership challenge

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

You jest but..

Centrists on the NEC are furious. One says Starmer's team are 'utter wankers' for ensuring the panel had a natural 3-2 majority for Corbyn. "They've now pissed off the Left and the Right over all this."
Says the right course wdve been to wait for new independent panel to decide.

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) November 17, 2020

“3-2 majority” leading to a 5-0 decision fwiw.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

labour having a mare as per.

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

look that natural balance won't ensure itself

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

Centrists furious because Team Starmz, who are different from the centrists made "the Right", who are different from the centrists and Team Starmz, cry. Got it.

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

I am waiting.

Understand a group of Labour MPs have warned Sir Keir Starmer they may resign the whip if Jeremy Corbyn has the whip reinstated. They're furious, gutted and feel it undermines work done to rebuild bridges with the Jewish community.

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) November 17, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

Did Ruth Smeeth (not an MP any more but friends with the reporter) phone up with this news?

scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

Centrists furious because Team Starmz, who are different from the centrists made "the Right", who are different from the centrists and Team Starmz, cry. Got it.

― nashwan, Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:51 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

have literally seen blairite types refer to starmerites as the "soft left" which is a good laugh.

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

lol Starmer as "too soft-left" is almost like when Biden gets slurred as a socialist.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Always remember that Ed Miliband and Gordon Brown were too left wing for them as well.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

i cry a little when anybody says "the soft left" like it's a thing

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

shame the devil and just simply add them to the tories-in-denial column!

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

at one time our honourable landlord from Brighton, the ace with the mace - might have been considered soft-left- whatever that means, but now he was too much of dangerous radical for even a minor shadow cabinet role in Starmer Labour. The Labour-Right will only be placated with someone leading the party who is such an utter evil horrible cunt, they'd even be to right-wing for BJ's current partner who is apparently running tings!

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

honourable landlord from Brighton


was hoping you might mean van hoogstraten for a sec.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

lol! It amused me in a cultural revolution lols sort of way that on that recent dossier LRM had "landlord" next to his name!

calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

Centrists 2015-19: It‘s completely wrong for Jeremy Corbyn to interfere in Labour’s disciplinary process! It should be made completely independent now!

Centrists 2020: Actually, fuck the independent process! Keir Starmer should personally interfere to boot out Jeremy Corbyn!

— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) November 17, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

We do all know that the old Labour Right is dead, don't we?
Just checking.

— Keith Sceptic (@paulewart23) November 17, 2020

where's the lie?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

Soft left soft lads more like

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

long live the new etc

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

Radio 4 says no Labour frontbencher available to talk to them this morning.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 18, 2020

and sir kieth is hiding in a fridge

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 07:57 (three years ago) link

The whip situation is going to be interesting. Starmer at least had the option of claiming the suspension was not down to him (which he repeatedly bungled), he doesn’t have that luxury here.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link

lol I had dream last night that Starmer was playing for the RoI football team and I was part of a crowd yelling abuse/taking the piss out of him and he came over and gave us a stern finger-wagging lecture about how those that don't do anything are always the first to mock in his Kermit voice!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:18 (three years ago) link

just about every amateur epidemiologist in the pub (if they were open) mostly know basic maths and also know the Rona has a roughly 1 % fatality rate, but daft Toby Young seems to have added an extra decimal place in his mind if not in his post which has made him look incredibly thick. I know he left school with no qualifications and I'm the same, but for this fucker to be so patently dumb and also a fan of eugenics with a history of sneery disablist comments is too much for me.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:19 (three years ago) link

James Schneider on R4 saying in effect the whip is already restored with the restoration of Labour Party membership.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:21 (three years ago) link

xp
in fact the fule posted it as 0.1% which would make the fatality rate 10 ten times worse than it is lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link

lol it's funny remembering that the piss boiling today is what it used to be like every day when Corbz was leader

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:28 (three years ago) link

Not even just a retweet will do for LK here, got to have the index finger of implicit endorsement.

👇🏼 https://t.co/1L4yfJ6tDZ

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 17, 2020

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

I also often point at Neil Coyle

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

🖕🏻

||||||||, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link

the moment he doesn't give the media what they want - maximum ritual humiliation of the left - he gets doorstepped. Unbelievable https://t.co/JUrYe3HopD

— tom (@malaiseforever) November 18, 2020

lol I'm enjoying seeing this fucking tool getting doorstepped way too much!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

The offence of “bringing the party into disrepute” was designed to give leaders a blank cheque for expulsions says @stephenkb but a “make it up as you go along” approach to Labour’s disciplinary process is exactly why it was unprepared for its crisis on AS https://t.co/VJzetgrq4l

— Jon Lansman (@jonlansman) November 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

People are saying court case but aren't ppl assuming Corbyn would actually go through with this?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

Very amusing about the dream about Kermit playing international soccer. But why for Ireland?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:19 (three years ago) link

He's said that he's not restoring the whip, now.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:23 (three years ago) link

xp

sometimes your dream logic is chaotic and makes no sense, a bit like kieth's leadership skillz right now!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

Starmer, as leader, cannot interfere in the complaints process, as per EHRC report. He shouldn't be saying anything about it, unless he doesn't want to implement that report and it's recommendations.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

falling asleep with R4 on and having taken some Rhodiolia Rosea (artic root) guarantees me crazy long REM state dreams every time.
xxp

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

He's said that he's not restoring the whip, now.

― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:23 (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Leadership by press reaction.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

I wish he'd have mentioned this pathetically rudderless and reactive type of leadership was going to be his thing at the hustings in February, the worthless piece of shit,

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link


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