ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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Brexit catching Covid is exactly what today needed

stet, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

There's nothing the PLP could do to more effectively torpedo faith in the independence of a new review board than advertising the conclusions it will be required to make in advance.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Back to Jeff and the boys in the Political Football studio for updates on the Starmer-Corbyn derby, where it sounds like Margaret Hodge has taken the game by the scruff of the neck... pic.twitter.com/IQs60ArmD8

— TheIainDuncanSmiths (@TheIDSmiths) November 18, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

beat me to it

nashwan, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

cheap lousy maggot

"Why have a minister for women, but not for men?"

Speaking in the International Men's Day debate, Conservative Ben Bradley says "can we ensure equality means just that, rather than positive discrimination at the expense of certain groups"

Watch: https://t.co/fci0RxYjAp pic.twitter.com/79MkEWm9wi

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) November 19, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

why don't we ever have a white history week asks Ben Bradley

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

the right honourable member for Mansfailed

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Why isn't there a member from Womansfield

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

She-ffield has several members!

imago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

just heard Kieth boldly praising the government's "reboot the Empire" initiative then trying to criticize him in that stupid voice for not describing our new space navy forensically enough

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

oh and Crombone's lawyers are challenging his suspension

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Lollolol

Holy shit, he's doing it https://t.co/sSHoVceOVD

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

I heard Nandy earlier complaining that Boris needs to cut the armed forces budget to build more drones rather than the cutting the foreign aid budget. Of course we need continue giving aid to poor countries and project more soft power before we start bombing them or supplying the weapons to bomb them to other rogue regimes. Labour are a fucking mess.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

omg I've never felt so much goodwill towards lawyers as I do towards Jez's rn. Take 'em to the fucking cleaners lads.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

tbh getting your lawyers to ask for clarification on a procedural point is a long way from taking them to court but good luck to him.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

A misleading and unhelpful intervention from @AnnelieseDodds. ⁰⁰The panel was chosen by Party officials who report to the General Secretary and the panel was staffed primarily by supporters of Starmer. If it was politicised it could only have been done by Starmer or his allies https://t.co/UJF3KL7Vev

— Momentum 🌹 (@PeoplesMomentum) November 19, 2020

Momentum tell Dudds to reel her neck in and stop misrepresenting a situation she seems to know nothing about.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

Corbyn’s suspension is apparently for three months, per Sienna Rodgers. Seems bizarre to indicate that he should have been expelled permanently from the party if that’s the case.

I’d guess some are hoping the other investigation into the former shadow cabinet gets heard under the new board and expels him then but there is a strong ‘making it up as they go along’ vibe.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

They're obviously writing off Islington North for the foreseeable future because as long as Corbyn's still standing they haven't a hope in hell of winning it. Scotland's gone, the North and Midlands is gone, let's lose London next. Great stuff.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

I'm really looking forward to finally being one of these aprocyphal "voices on the doorstep" that tell campaigners: I can't possibly vote for Labour with Joromy Crumblyn that tory cunt who has follow-throughs in his troosers leading them.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

Well well look at what we have here

This latest YouGov poll reported in @NationCymru has independence on 33%. The fourth poll in a row to show support for #IndyWales on 32-33%. Support is solidifying. Here's the historical trend in a graph (which anyone's welcome to pinch).https://t.co/ApEEABacxu pic.twitter.com/kGVIXCmlKC

— Math 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Wiliam (@MathGW) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 November 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

Lab to lose Wales next!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 November 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnQFTo6XIAAf4IK?format=jpg&name=large

dexy's then the pogues. good couple of days for 80's music biz veterans twitter accounts... less said about boab the better!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link

a pro-Corbyn "gang of three" Labour councillors have quit in Hudds which has torpedoed their wafer thin majority! I didn't realise there actually were councillors with a backbone .. amazing!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link

That guy Lee is the former head of editorial at Faber responsible for all the music books. A writer on his list invited me to a launch party for their new book and I watched Lee spend the entire night not speaking to any of the female critics and editors there. Just to make sure I wasn’t hallucinating a vibe, I checked with my friend J, who grew up with Dave Peace (also published by Lee at the time). J is a fashion gay and he actually stopped going to Dave’s launches because Lee was such a laddish twat he couldn’t unsee the effortless sexism (and had to wonder if dude was quietly homophobic too).

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2020 08:52 (three years ago) link

People who vehemently despise Corbyn rather than just indifferent or not particularly a fan usually are wrong 'uns.

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:08 (three years ago) link

https://www.faber.co.uk/blog/an-open-letter-to-morrissey/

||||||||, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:21 (three years ago) link

just listened to what KS had to say about his Orange Juice pick on DID. nothing. reminds him of university and he still plays it from time to time.

koogs, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:41 (three years ago) link

boss level crashing bore alert!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

Just a typical DID guest, some middle aged bore who has never had the slightest interest in music beyond a few years in his late teens/early 20s when he had to fit in with the crowd at uni before settling down to his boring life.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Friday, 20 November 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

To give him the tiniest sliver of credit, he’s a classically trained ex-Guildhall student and Norman Cook said he was schmindie at school. But his answers were super-boring and there was no follow-up by Lauren.

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link

are there any more Labour councils Starmer has managed to bring down with his treatment of Corbyn, apart from Kirklees? I'm still quite stunned this has actually happened lol!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

Just a typical DID guest, some middle aged bore who has never had the slightest interest in music beyond a few years in his late teens/early 20s when he had to fit in with the crowd at uni before settling down to his boring life.

― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Friday, 20 November 2020 09:58 (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

seen!

plax (ico), Friday, 20 November 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

book me please! i've never heard anything released after my 22nd birthday!

plax (ico), Friday, 20 November 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

JC @ that FF 'blog'

plax (ico), Friday, 20 November 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link

get some fucking Duke Ellington darn ya neck kid!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link

"And we also like to think we are the custodians of twentieth-century Modernist poetry. In fact we are. Our shelves groan and bulge and spill over under the weight of Ezra, Larkin, Hughes and Heaney."

This is semi-literate - from a senior figure at Faber.

No reason given why Pound is given his first name and the others aren't.

Larkin (certainly) and Hughes (to a degree) are generally seen as a *subsequent reaction against* modernist poetry. You can tweak and finesse that, sure, but you have to start from the fact that Larkin at least said that was opposed to modernism. Something that a ... senior editor at Faber doesn't seem to know.

the pinefox, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

It would have made slightly more sense if he'd noted that Faber published Djuna Barnes (prose, not poetry) and Sylvia Plath.

the pinefox, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

I like Pinefox in ILB attack dog mode, finish the fucker off!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

i too have bad thoughts abt lee br4ckstone, including being very underpaid for a significant editorial consultancy project fopr one of his authors and also having a very good idea for a music book (by me hence why any idea turns into a good one, come on) turned down extremely brusquely and unimaginitively

also i too have encountered him at a book launch and he was just offensively drunk so fvck him forever

(now reimagine this post less laced with poisonous personal london lit-scene hatreds, can you even, where is user ogmor to school me)

mark s, Friday, 20 November 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

lol that open letter. notice me, racist senpai.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 20 November 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

Ugh, that does not surprise me. LB and I have tons of mutuals but the type of people he gravitates towards socially are some of the biggest can-holders in music and publishing.

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

why would you not quietly take that blog down when your eugenicist hero signed with Penguin

huge rant (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link

I forgot that he didn't publish the book with Faber after all !!

the pinefox, Friday, 20 November 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link

xp Penguin Classics
(I read it and gave up halfway through)

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

About the right place to pack it in TBF, the first 150 pages are objectively good about Irish postwar Manchester.

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link

A charity shop ever present- shitloads of people bought it or were bought it, extremely high percentage got rid quickly lol

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

Not read it myself, but Johnny Rogan's Smiths book is also at its best in the chapters before the band forms. Postwar/seventies Manchester vividly realised, even the character of Morrissey has a bathetic Adrian Mole-ish appeal when he's just a nobody dreaming of being somebody. Then he starts a band with Johnny Marr and everything is ruined.

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

Not read the autobiography, that is

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

Lots of rock biogs fall off the cliff and soon as the band becomes something. I like the ones that stop at that point.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link

*as soon as*

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link


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