ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

Sir Alex "dave" Allen has resigned over the non-sacking of Priti Patel

Is The Kenuckie connection with Starmer and Corbyn a long 90s thing or just more about the same annoying brat types dominating the Labour Party as they did 90s indie and as they do lefty social media now!

The Roxy biography mentioned is by Michael Bracewell.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2007/oct/27/biography.music

Lauren’s mum was (maybe still is) a Labour councillor in Sunderland. Also, most of those Melody Maker groups and writers lived in Holloway/Archway/Tufnell Park before either going to Brighton or Crouch End/Muswell Hill, depending on whether or not they made money.

Pete AKA Johnny X in Kenix, Lauren's brother, is one of the most entertaining people on twitter and I always get the impression when he posts political stuff (which is very often) that he would fit perfectly on this thread. Maybe he's even here already?

https://twitter.com/pgofton

He’s not, but I’ve mentioned him as a good’un before.

Dexys know what's happening.

This one? pic.twitter.com/ueenRxiWee

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) November 20, 2020

The reply to that.

This one. pic.twitter.com/UXyfnX8t5X

— Pen Jf (@Humdiha) November 20, 2020

I don't think Corbyn Is An IRA Sympathizer is going to work with Kevin Rowland.

I felt it important to explain why I left the Labour Party after 40 years https://t.co/W9h9w8tmfN

— Thelma Walker (@Thelma_DWalker) November 20, 2020

Thelma says Kieth is a wanker and fuck this party under his leadership.

can i just

https://www.anti-bullyingalliance.org.uk/sites/default/files/uploads/FB_Cover_Picture_7.jpg

on Priti Patel suffering no consequences for being found to have broken the ministerial code by bullying others, Keith says:

“It is hard to imagine another workplace in the UK where this behaviour would be condoned by those at the top.”

Haha really Keith? Is it?

The reference made in his statement to a ‘damning dossier’ sitting on his desk that the PM was ignoring absolutely could not have been made with a straight face.

Guillotine the soft left please.

I’d drop mass nationalisation and the vapid Stop the War foreign policy for starters.

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) November 21, 2020

From the same guy who was fuming on Twitter about the 'raging antisemite' Jezzbo Crombein.

The Picture of Dorian Lynskey: they find a portrait of a really cool and interesting man in his attic

— WARIOSOCIALISM 📕 (@wariotifo) November 18, 2014

Evergreen tweet

You improve messaging and priorities instead of complaining about a media you can’t change? No it’s not fair. And?

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) November 21, 2020

of all the prominent melty bullshit merchants about, the real Orwell_Fan is one of the worst - an even bigger dickhead than Dunty!

FFS how do you let the public know they are being gaslit by the media unless you... say so?

fascinated by this genre of post-hope liberalism- yes everything is terrible, but trying to change it in any way is not just delusional but basically evil

didn’t these people pretend to believe in things at one point

you certainly don't allow yourself as a sort of fait accompli to accept a 'reality' a set of powerful interested actors are trying to impose on you. suzy and left otm.

I suppose believing that the Labour party should be a reactive, shadow version of the tories with all the left-wing nullified or systematically booted out - just waiting to capitalise when they fuck up rather offer an alternative mandate to the electorate. And having an implacable belief that maintaining the status quo is "grown up" politics could be described as believing in something, but to me these wankers are godless heathens, deranged nihilists etc..

To believe that you can change thing but then not vote to do so is maybe too bitter a pill for some melts, better to embrace nihilism

This what embracing nihilism looks like?

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 41% (+3)
LAB: 38% (-4)
LDEM: 6% (-1)
GRN: 4% (+1)

via @OpiniumResearch
Chgs. w/ 06 Nov pic.twitter.com/F8IT0HoaC6

— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) November 21, 2020

these just seem to have been entirely static for some time. i guess one explanation for that is that this might be because covid is seen as an exceptional period, with people allowing latitude to the existing government due to extraordinary circumstances. ofc, this means the government could easily get a boost as a vaccine is triumphantly rolled out.

I think it will depend on how that stable coalition takes the impacts of Brexit, e.g. racists still hear 'funny' accents being spoken in the streets (I wish I was joking).

Other than that Lab are utterly shambolic, though there isn't a sense that if they were absolutely on it would make a difference rn.

it could also mean that Keith has got his electoral maths terribly wrong and too many people just don't care much for the arrogant tory cunt when the real thing is there, and him making a similar misjudgement as Miliband Labour will put him on course for a worse defeat than 2019. But I've become so spiteful now I'm like Jess Phillips and will be bitterly disappointed if he doesn't suffer the humiliating political death he has earned and I sorely want to witness!

Keith has got his electoral maths terribly wrong

this is so relentlessly a given that it's already painfully to repeat it

"People bang on about benefits culture, all that. There are piss takers, no doubt that.."

yeah it's always good to reiterate that good old fashioned deserving/undeserving poor distinction that both parties use so successfully to undermine the welfare state. Danny Dyer doesn't have to do much to get widespread applause these days, fuck him, shit actor and overrated gobshite.

he's like Marina Hyde, any basic criticism of the tory govt is widely celebrated by melty twats, but I can't remember them ever giving any support when there was an alternative to the tories.

there are pisstakers, therefore we must make the entire benefits system as punishing, humiliating and hostile as possible

"I'm not no mug me, not like that bleedin' Corbyn geezer right? i'm 'ard but fair me old china, give some benefits to these 'ard working bleeders, not those facking lazy scroungers!"

Lol at this letter

70-strong Covid Recovery Group of Tory MPs have just published letter to PM warning they won’t support his plan for new tiered restrictions “if it cannot be shown that they are saving more lives than they cost” & have asked for “full cost benefit analysis to be published” 👇 pic.twitter.com/edHF6S6wFz

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) November 22, 2020

Lab soft left 🤝 Tory hard-right

Full cost benefit analysis

tfw priti fucking patel isn’t fascist enough

Despite telling MPs last week to “form a square around the Prittster”, insiders say the prime minister has tired of Patel’s repeated failure to get a grip on the flow of asylum seekers across the Channel.

“The view of the political operation in No 10 was always that she should be protected,” a senior Tory said. “But there is also a view that she should be reshuffled on competence grounds. There is continual frustration that the Home Office has not got a grip on things, the small boats in particular.”

lol at "the Prittster", her and Incey and their self-naming game.. you better fucking call her the Prittster or she'll flush your head down the toilet and tippex "Tramp" on the back of your blazer!

This went by almost without a murmur:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-gas-contract-corruption-nigeria-process-industrial-development-b1759441.html

Patel’s judgement is consistently appalling and frequently gives the impression it’s motivated by personal interests but I guess you could say the same about Jenrick and nobody particularly cares.

The Prittster? It was either that or Herr Prittler.

caring about naked political corruption is the old politics

The Prittstick
The Pritt Brit

Only way to solve the small boats 'problem' is to blast them out of the water and they all know it, either that or admit it's not a problem.

No idea what the 'Covid Recovery Group' are on about - either you keep people away from an infectious disease or you don't. Mealy-mouthed bunch of Tory grandees who want the proles to take their chances in order to keep their gravy train rolling, but I suppose they can't quite say that outright - yet.

thought experiment- if an imaginary person was not in theory opposed to violence against those who support violence against refugees, how much of british public would they not in theory be opposed to violence against?

The P&ID thing is before her being Home Secretary though - she was still the disgraced former Secretary of State for International Development then, so that's alright.

It is bleakly funny that the alleged reason for her dismissal is not telling civil servants that they're fucking useless, but that she just didn't try hard enough to stop refugees - when she'd clearly be out there with a motorboat and a Sten gun given the chance.

Compelling analysis of why feminism has put society in the gutter, by new EHRC commissioner Jessica Butcher

She added: “Working-class girls have been deprived of jobs that they love such as Page 3 girls and [Formula One] grid girls because other women disapprove of them. What happened to ‘my body, my choice’?”

thinking of those F1 grid girls, in greyhound racing in the 90's they usually had a glamourous looking woman wearing tight jodhpurs and a blazer who would walk past all the traps to check none of the dogs had backed up + raise the white flag to signal for the electric hare to be set off. One day for the first time there was a black guy who came out with the flag and just about everyone in the betting shop I was in erupted into laughter, they were about 80% afro-Caribbean punters ftr!

The Guatemalan people are the most advanced of democracies, so impressive.

Protesters in Guatemala brought a guillotine to Congress pic.twitter.com/aNPwQy7kSo

— lime 🖤🤍💙 (@Hezbolsonaro) November 21, 2020

Left I'm with you on this, if you fancy going full Baader Meinhof hit me up on webmail, also anybody with access to a stash of weapons

stoked for the madness. chalk this up as one more in the incompetence column for kieth
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/22/labour-infighting-inquiry-damaging-starmers-position

I'd like to damage Keith's position, preferably by pushing him off a bridge.

^if you see this guy walking around carrying a bridge, be v afraid imo