ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

keir starmer, working his way through epstein's black book, raising funds

— Frank Sobotka (@cymrurouge) December 4, 2020

Of the Millwall fans’ booing he said: “If people choose to reflect their view in a particular way that should always be respected.”

Please bookmark in case you ever get a chance to reflect your views in a particular way to Environment Minister George Eustice.

One of the good things about The Rona lock-down was forgetting that Millwall fans exist for almost a year.

They had one on the Nolan show last night, where while maintaining a veneer of polite outrage he repeatedly goaded the nazi into expressing his "legit concerns"

A UK ‘senior government figure’ in today's Times:
"January is going to be a shitshow. we're preparing for the mother of all Januaries." #Brexit #NoDealBrexit #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/sFh6wnHUma

— Gerry Hassan (@GerryHassan) December 5, 2020

chill out carrie

FBPE Twitter are flipping out today about Owen Jones saying their strategy in opposing any kind of brexit is one of the reasons we are heading for the cliff-edge, so we're back to normal I guess.

a great bunch of lads

What would have happened if eg: Customs Union had passed the Commons vote in March 2019?

Would we then have ended up with Customs Union?

If so, then OJ is basically correct.

Not sure — suspect if it got anywhere close to passing the Leavers would have wrecked it. Look what happened when the old parliament passed the withdrawal agreement, after all – it looked like customs union would be a close-run thing to be amended in then. It only didn't become real because Johnson insisted on a three-day acceleration and lost the vote on that, giving him the pretext required to insist on the election.

Difficult to see anything Leave didn't want either making it through the parliament or surviving the Betrayal Election that was always bound to follow. All of hope of anything like this happening was ultimately lost when May delegitimised Remain right back at "citizens of nowhere".

Andy Burnham
@AndyBurnhamGM

Credit where it’s due. @MattHancock has clearly worked hard to get us to this point with the vaccine. Today is a day when he deserves recognition for that.

^^^
this is the second time in recent history this showboating creep is crawling up the arse of a lousy tory minister. Yeah the great white hope of the soft left, lol!

Hat Mancock has clearly never worked hard

his faux "tears of emotion" routine clearly needs more work, he could perhaps learn some pro-tips off Andy when he's finished crawling up his arse.

Can't wait for DomCum blog in January detailing what he would've done to get us out of these multiple once in a generation crises.

I get that ministers actually do stuff and keep busy and that and I'm sure Hancock's involvement in the vaccine to date is more than zero but honestly what the fuck is the upside in Burnham blowing smoke there?

Can’t find the detail yet but looks like they’ve got a deal on NI and are withdrawing the law-breaking IMB clauses

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/dec/08/uk-coronavirus-live-hancock-covid-rules-tier-2-3-vaccine-brexit-latest-updates?page=with:block-5fcf7eaf8f08a20e617da522#block-5fcf7eaf8f08a20e617da522

this thing it was illegal for us to do, we aren't going to do it now.

ime complimeting someone as a 'hard worker' usually means they are irredemably awful in every other respect and this the only positive thing anyone can think of to say about them. Burnham, on the other hand, obviously means it sincerely.

are some Cabinet ministers....not working hard doing the bare minimum?

https://open.spotify.com/episode/337cBl9c9QT1Ji34gLiVgB?si=ot2cBCxtRAu03eDsj6t3nw

good short Alexei Sayle podcast where he talks about Starmer's membership of the shady right-wing Rockerfeller founded org The Trilateral Commission (lol the only other UK MP member is Rory Stewart)

i do kinda feel bad for the representatives of the perfidious johnny eu who have had to spend so many endless hours looking at the melting-cheese-sculpture faces of the uk's elected leaders while knowing in their heart of hearts that britain has been laser-focused on a no-deal outcome right from the start

Burnham, on the other hand, obviously means it sincerely.

It's honestly baffling to me. I get that we're basically all Tories now and nothing matters we're all gonna die etc but when in the fuck did prominent labour men start going out of their way to offer unsolicited support to Tory ministers?

Am I missing some strategic benefit for Manchester in kissing this particular arse?

If you can't say anything insulting and inflammatory don't say anything at all imo

even a few months back when Jenrick was caught bang to rights deep in corruption and arguably should have been pumped. Burnham was refusing to call for his resignation and calling him a "a nice lad" and "someone I can work with" on Any Questions. Then Jenrick paid back this oh so touching cross party loyalty by suggesting that Burnham faked the whole "just receiving a derisory offer for Manchester" press conference and was a shameless showboater (probably true tbf!).

Bunrahm absolutely cucked there

Burn 'im

lol now Lammy says hold my beer Bunrahmy I'm the biggest tory-melt clown in this town and is retweeting a bullshit history washing Telegraph piece and declaring that W Churchill was a pioneer of human rights!

it's some West Wing professional sympathy disease, they get a lovely warm glow in their tummies when they get to be bipartisan in the face of national catastrophe

i mean it wouldn't be constructive to mention the death toll or the billions shelled out in unmonitored graft

Probably a tacit acknowledgement that they'd've blithely fucked up in their shoes, it's only the game of politics

With great power comes fuck all responsibility

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the main talking point for the next Trilateral Commission meeting, Kieth has become an expert at abdicating responsibility without even getting anywhere near power!

hold on, Lammy actually wrote that shite in the Torygraph about Churchill that he was rt-ing... jesus wept!

He's clarified that he was talking about WC doing his bit for some post war human rights laws that have been systemically watered down and/or ignored for decades and not yer actual genocides or support for white supremacy so we're all good.

lol, good old Lamster!

do they have to fucking call it v day

V for "virtually a backstop but we need to call it something else"

Must agree with David Lammy.

Winston Churchill was indeed a great champion of human rights *

(*Exceptions apply: guarantee does not cover Asians, Africans, Irish, Native Americans or non-docile working-class communities. See historical record for further details)

— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) December 9, 2020

"UK's relationship with EU rests on success of key dinner in Brussels"

Four and a half years after a referendum and fuck knows how many parliamentary votes and negotiations and it's come to this. Really.

This fucking Churchill thing as well omg how easy is it to side step these stupid own goals?

Like even if you accept you occasionally need to play to the populist centre right gallery with someone like Churchill and you're not gonnae please all the Calzinos all of the time don't go with "human rights pioneer" in the face of all the evidence FFS.

Retread the usual steps about inspirational wartime leader who was at times controversial but pulled us together in times of crisis blah blah shite covid reference amusing quote full fucking stop. It's easy.

"The UK crashed out of the EU after Mr. Johnson refused to eat what he thought was gammon, but Ms. Von der Leyen insisted was canard. According to sources from inside Mr. Johnson also refused to pass Ms. Von der Leyen the salt, sending the UK into decades of chaos."

so bored of the artificial construction of pivotal moment after pivotal moment. how many crucial crunch points have been reached and then elapsed. the only moment that seemed decisive before (johnson passing his bill) turned out to be fairly inconsequential (uk then reneged). there's no way to avoid this reality. there's this desperation in the uk for brexit to be done, over in some way, but brexit will be with us for decades; dissipating and returning. and then climate change will melt the 5g antennaes and we'll all be dead.

I agree -- the regular re-creation of pivotal moments is more bad garbage from the garbage politicians and garbage media.

Does Calzino still regularly post vicious attacks on KS?

I hope so.

I was worried when someone told him to stop.

lol

We are careful to ensure all vicious attacks are clearly signposted as comedically and ridiculously violent and not to be taken as serious threats to His Kiethness

It's almost the anniversary of that day when all hope died but the silver lining was that Kiethy McStarmer fellow with the curious voice got four numbers on the lottery and then I beat him to death with a comedy claw hammer and then UK politics lived happily ever after.

FP’d tbf. this senseless forum aggression must not stand.

huddersfield doing quite well = fewer violent threats imo

He won a hundred quid on the Morton House raffle draw and he wouldn't even get us a beer in. That's how serious the situation was and I'm afraid imo it was an entirely justifiable comedy homicide.

Starmer sitting in front of all his policies and beliefs. pic.twitter.com/X1XLclWGBK

— Disabled People's Lives Matter 🇵🇸 (@LamentablyAwake) December 9, 2020