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— Ian Ford (@ij_ford) December 9, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

this seems a lot worse than when Cameron declared himself a "thronie" because who cares about that shite!

calzino, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

I can take or leave Coronation Street, but I have loved it for several periods in my life. My partner has been watching it almost consistently for 45 years - that's quite a head fuck really!

calzino, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

pigs gonna pig

Four people have been charged with criminal damage after a statue of Edward Colston was thrown into Bristol Harbour in June.

Rhian Graham, 29, Milo Ponsford, 25, Jake Skuse, 32, and Sage Willoughby, 21, are all due to appear at Bristol Magistrates' Court on January 25, pic.twitter.com/T16Rs87ToG

— London & UK Crime (@CrimeLdn) December 9, 2020

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

new brexit deadline is it?

plax (ico), Thursday, 10 December 2020 08:46 (three years ago) link

Funny how the complete shafting of NI Unionists by the Tories has been largely unreported now that their votes are irrelevant and no-one cares about NI again.

Tizer Beyoncé (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

hah nobody even answers the phone when Arlene calls these days

calzino, Thursday, 10 December 2020 09:13 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55247033

nashwan, Thursday, 10 December 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link

meant to post

International Criminal Court says it won't take action against the UK, despite finding evidence British troops committed war crimes in Iraq https://t.co/QHrC67TiWm

— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) December 9, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 10 December 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

However, it could not make a determination as to whether the UK had acted to shield soldiers from prosecution.

Good job we're making that absolutely unambiguous going forward.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 December 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

almost as tho the ICC is not that interested in atrocities visited by 'the west' on other countries.

plax (ico), Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link

idk they've let India get pretty powerful

imago, Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

sorry that is a bad cricket joke

imago, Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

Not bad so much as somewhat inappropriate.

Tizer Beyoncé (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

the timeless tests are a kind of torture, to me

mark s, Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

https://t.co/2GoBTNgWMV pic.twitter.com/9pAdxz8J1d

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) December 10, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

sorry that is a bad cricket joke

― imago, Thursday, 10 December 2020 bookmarkflaglink

No please, sir, carry on with your racism

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

so i guess johnson has a lot of pals shorting the pound

plax (ico), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

I can't wait for the deep planting, close cropping system that will bring record agricultural yields!

calzino, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

98% voter turnout and 97 of it for the Tories!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

sadly I think that stat will be true for the rest of my lifetime tbh

calzino, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

apart from true turnout

calzino, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

This is imago country now xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

oh blimey there is a new Perry Anderson piece. I'll have look at this later ..or maybe when I've got a spare lost weekend!

calzino, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

all hail the glorious march of reaction

imago, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

In recent weeks there has apparently been a shortage of timber and screws... stockpile it as much as you please lads, but previous modern famines have proven that wood and iron are not useful forms of sustenance without a bit of gravy!

calzino, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

Why in fuck does he keep talking about an Australia-style deal, Australia has no deal and is trying hard to get one. The irony would be if Australia got a deal before the UK.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

The emperor isn't wearing no clothes. He's wearing Australian style clothes!

— Ray Monk (@Raymodraco) December 11, 2020

Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 December 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

woke: Castlemaine XXXX broke: Lowenbrau

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 07:46 (three years ago) link

Btw the Australian option includes getting royally fucked by China.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 11 December 2020 08:01 (three years ago) link

I was reading in a blog somewhere that Australia does in fact have some trade agreements with the EU, so in fact the UK would be worse off than Oz. Johnson should be talking about a Moldova style deal or something

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 11 December 2020 08:03 (three years ago) link

Moldova has a deal! A Belarus-style deal would be more accurate, or maybe a Transnistria-style deal.

Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 December 2020 08:09 (three years ago) link

it was mentioned on Today earlier Australia do have some limited arrangements on standards etc... but lol probably more than what the UK will end up with!

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 08:09 (three years ago) link

David Graeber in January this year:
"In Brexit the right had discovered an almost perfect political poison, not only dividing British society into two hostile camps, but bringing out the absolute worst in both of them."

— rachel shabi (@rachshabi) December 11, 2020

Graeber knew the score

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link

for those who liked this govs handling of covid, get ready to love their handling of no deal brexit!

plax (ico), Friday, 11 December 2020 08:30 (three years ago) link

i mean maybe who knows right

plax (ico), Friday, 11 December 2020 08:31 (three years ago) link

I wish there was some profit to be made from the potential end of this grim Boris and the Britannia Unchained crew iteration of the Tories. But now we've got the other Tory party as well, with the promise of competent and sensible stewardship and trusted by the status quo for another decade of austerity. I knew there would be very grim long term consequences from what happened on that very shit day a year ago, and here they bloody are.

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link

lol, when Kieth leaks an exclusive about his bold new vison for Labour that will be revealed in his New Year speech, to The fucking Spectator, that tells you all you need to know about where he is going.

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

it does interest me about the spectator. like you can see the reasoning with the mail, as given the size of the its readership, it actually* has more labour voters reading it than the guardian (*is this a factoid? i certainly read it somewhere). but the spectator is just ideological wingnuts and dyed-in-the-wool Tories, so no real advantage you'd've thought. i wonder if there's some sort of attempt to shape right-wing messaging against current gov, so you get right-wing commentators saying things like 'when even Kieth Starmer is outflanking the Tories on x the Tories need to start looking at their etc.'

More likely it's the boring pragmatics of a political editor saying 'fancy an interview here kieth we'll make it sympathetic.'

Fizzles, Friday, 11 December 2020 09:35 (three years ago) link

Boring pragmatics of a Kieth countenancing collaboration with a hate rag

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

yeah the spectator circulation is only around 80000+. But then again a lot of his electoral math is screwy and seemingly more concerned with winning small numbers of grim troglodytes possibly at the expense of many many more BAME and younger voters. He doesn't know what he's doing imo!

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 09:46 (three years ago) link

In his head I imagine this is statesmanlike, engaging with the grown-up agenda setters. Agendas like transphobia etc

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link

I think Kieth will always be insecure about perceptions of him not being hawkish enough, conservative enough, bigoted enough etc and will always be willing to go one step further to prove his doubters wrong.

I remember feeling the positivity from Dan Hancox posting about the demographic timebomb that would be an existential threat to the Conservative Party and be its eventual undoing for decades, now I definitely don't have any positive thoughts about the future.

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

I don't think Kieth will ever be PM but what I'm certain about is by the time he's consigned to the political dustbin, the right-wing of the party will have a much stronger hand and the next leadership competition will be between 3 ugly arseholes (that make Starmer look handsome) and 1 hitler.

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link

What a fantastic boost for immigration mug makers. https://t.co/0MZjBpNo1k

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) December 11, 2020

lol he's such a natural at vacuous soundbites with a sinister undercurrent

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

xpost

I am a little more sanguine - think the left is in a stronger place than it was in 2015, and the conditions that led to Corbyn - austerity, debt, poverty, precariousness - aren't going anywhere, indeed likely to get worse. The membership isn't going to tolerate a post-Kieth Liz Kendall/Dan Jarvis/Andy Burnham face off. There are some dece young left MPs in the Campaign group now, and hopefully they are more clear-eyed about the wreckers/obstacles within the party, and more ruthless about removing them.

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 11 December 2020 10:35 (three years ago) link

hope your right, but I keep reading about all the Labour-right fuckery going down in the NEC and I've lost a lot of faith in the membership. But I have seen some Kieth voters expressing dismay at the choice they made, that's a start.

calzino, Friday, 11 December 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link

Last night I woke up at 4am punching the bedclothes because I was dreaming about KS lying about JC and it made me furious.

I drifted off to sleep again and dreamed about BJ lying about JC. Then about having an argument with someone who was repeating KS's lies about JC.

I woke up again, furious again, and couldn't get back to sleep for a long while this time.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 December 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

For @LRB I wrote about last week’s deportation flight to Jamaica, “criminality”, and how our rhetorical reliance on the Windrush “scandal” to oppose deportations restrains our imagining for a world without the Home Office https://t.co/zXICevPaRp pic.twitter.com/Z9Y3bPUnjN

— Jason (@jasebyjason) December 11, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 December 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link


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