ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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that really couldn't have been predicted and wouldn't have happened under Sir Kieth Abstarmer's watch

calzino, Saturday, 19 December 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

The Spectator describes me as “the permanently outraged MP”.

Highest excess death toll in Europe.
Deepest recession in G7.
Unicef forced to feed our kids.
Billions to Tory mates in dodgy contracts.
Climate catastrophe looming.

If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) December 19, 2020

my first response was that it was a bit rich the spectator calling somebody else permanently outraged

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link

more like the only decent MP

calzino, Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

well there are about 3 more tbf!

calzino, Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

but real grownup headz tell you Stella Creasy is a cracking constituency MP

calzino, Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

she did come to my neighbourhood's street party tbf

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 20 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

sorry to hear about that

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

Oh fuck

— Anneka Rice (@AnnekaRice) December 19, 2020

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 20 December 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

what's the sympathy rating for Anneka's ruined Christmas?

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

she'll be reet, the pigs can't stop you travelling or having parties when you are a millionaire with a chopper

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

Labour's position on schools, which they sacked RLB to change, was pure populism. Shameless.

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) December 19, 2020

this is mostly why Starmer is so easy to dismiss by the Conservative Party and whole swathes of the electorate and why the polling will be mostly tidally locked until the smear campaign at the time of the next election, when he offers some crumbs and the Tories will be 10 pts ahead. He's depressingly predictable and an absolutely dud. The Graun/Observer will keep putting out their desperate fanfic in vain, but he's got his nakedly cynical electoral math badly wrong. He's come up with a losing formulae and he'll stick to to until the death.

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link

You'll think I'm dead/but I'll sail away/on a wave of devolution/a wave of devolution/a wave of devolution/way-ha-hay-ha-hayve/way-ha-hay-ha-hayve https://t.co/wuTNrVZEsa

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) December 20, 2020

oh lord he's trying the classic staples (Enya, The Pixies, The dud labours) offering a wave of devolution and “a positive alternative to the Scottish people”. Wow I bet Sturgeon is really shitting it!

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

Starmer will say that he is offering “a positive alternative to the Scottish people” while at the same time seeking “to preserve and renew the United Kingdom”.

Does. Not. Compute.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

Jays twould make you wonder what he might promise us to rejoin

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

A wave of De Valera.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

Nice

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

John Humphrys, in his final pants-pissing days as the main Today presenter had many senior moments like calling Chris Patten "the former governor of China" and then once suggesting the best solution to the NI border issue would be the Republic of Irelend re-joining the United Kingdom or as he put it "throw in their lot with this country".

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

Irentry?

Eirentry?

ROI-t EU lot, lets be avin you?

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

To be fair to der starmer there is literally nothing to be done for labour in Scotland wrt the constitutional question. too yoon for the nats, not yoon enough for the brit nats, and seemingly the majority resides in those two camps

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link

I think there is a similar transposition of electoral doom for him in England as well but I just call him a cunt

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

but at least he's got one MP in Scotland, the one looks like pickled egg and who almost jumped ship to CuK and is widely despised everywhere apart from seemingly within the vile labour party membership. At least that is something positive to build on!

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link

John Humphrys, in his final pants-pissing days as the main Today presenter had many senior moments like calling Chris Patten "the former governor of China" and then once suggesting the best solution to the NI border issue would be the Republic of Irelend re-joining the United Kingdom or as he put it "throw in their lot with this country".

― calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:00 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

iirc this got days of coverage on irish social media as people's jaws just collective dropped. i think it was the moment ireland realised how bad things had gotten re brexit and all that shite.

plax (ico), Sunday, 20 December 2020 08:05 (three years ago) link

Nandy thinks schools can be turned into mass testing centres and reopen safely in a couple of weeks, just like that, and the National Education Union's Kevin Courtney begs to differ and says they should be closed until the 18th ... hmm I wonder which one is talking out of their arsehole?

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

my son's secondary has said the he's 'working from home' the first week back to give the school time to prepare and train staff to administer tests to 1500+ students and staff the following week. the irritation and contempt in the email to parents about this was palpable. i have to say i find it amazing that education professionals are being press-ganged into being front-line COVID health workers.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

wait a minute... are teachers expected to do the testing in schools

||||||||, Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link

Was reading the other day about how the operation moonspaff “pilot” in Liverpool was a total fakeout ito (among other things) army helping to administer tests

Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

I think a mass testing regime, that many schools might not even have the space/resources/ability to put into place properly in a couple of weeks, is only going be slight damage limitation against a variant with a much greater R rate. Jesus, just listen to unions for once ffs, it's in the name of the party.

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

according to the school:

Yesterday (Thursday) we were advised that school should not start again until 11th January to enable us to manage infection control before this testing process can be implemented and staff trained to administer, process and record outcomes.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link

Oh well seeing as Christmas is cancelled and seeing as weren't doing anything anyway you might as well do this covid-medic short course just for the love of your job!

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

Police will be asked to stop families from driving out of tier 4 areas, the health secretary has said, while extra officers will be deployed at railway stations.

The transport secretary, Grant Shapps, warned that extra police would be at London railway stations to stop people leaving the city for “unnecessary” journeys following images of chaotic scenes on Saturday night.

really bad combination of ill coordinated messaging that was always going cause a panicked exodus/potential superspreading event that also aids the spread of the new new variant and then followed up with heavy-handed policing when the horse has already bolted. Dangling this idea of a normal Christmas for months and then this, it might even finish him off.

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

can’t wait for boris’ approval rating to briefly dip two points over this latest fuckup

― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:18 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link

surely there are limits to the old rule of thumb: Tories can get away with anything!

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

we’re gonna find out i guess

if cancelling christmas doesn’t drive voters into kieth’s flaccid embrace then nothing will

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

You forget, Boris is Britain Trump. (xp)

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 December 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link

What Calzino said. Trump has a particular relationship with some of his (evangelical) base, and they got some benefits from that pact.

Economy also in trouble -- and we'll see a lot of that next year.

EXCLUSIVE in today’s Sunday Telegraph

Home workers who 'built up savings' must go on spending spree when pandemic ends, Rishi Sunak says https://t.co/E0zu8GRzMF

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) December 20, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 December 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

which would be the worst timeline: Boz gets away with it all, or Boz is sacrificed & tories get away with it all, or nu-nu-labour does well thanks to anti tory sentiment & zombie centrism gets yet another undeserved shot in the arm

Left, Sunday, 20 December 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

mind you the kids will become a factor & they know how bullshit all of these options are. I just hope they remember not to go lib dem or something

Left, Sunday, 20 December 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

Hancock apparently suggesting that we could be in Tier 4 for ‘a couple of months’, though I’d guess they’re going to want to keep schools open.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

If Tier 3 didn’t dent the spread in Kent they’re going to have to extend t4 if this gets out of London. Not difficult to see it lasting into February. Scottish schools closed until Jan 18, I think.

stet, Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

Nothing is going to dent the spread in Kent if nothing changes with schools, manual jobs and prisons tbh. This started during the last national lockdown.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

How much worse could it have been even if the UK had an anti-vax anti-lockdown headcase running the show, like Bolsonaro. Probably a bit worse, but maybe not that much. A memorable quote from a Brazilian health care worker could just as easily apply to the UK. Although at the time that regime had sacked their equivalent of Hancock and didn't bother replacing them, but the health worker said working in such chaos was like doing maintenence to an aeroplane while it was flying.

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

not sure how the school testing works in terms of "what if kids refuse a test, surely they have a right to refuse?" and especially for special schools where i'm told they'll be getting the test too, which is sure to be calmly and quietly accepted by autistic kids and others with learning disabilities.

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

It only took me about ten years to get Alex used to anual flu vaccinations, but not everyone is as *easy* as him!

calzino, Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

my daughter was explaining how they've been told it's "going to work", pretty sure it's not going to work, she was looking forward to getting bitten tho

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

Sheppey East is at 2668 cases per 100k this week. It also has three prisons iirc. I’ve heard next to nothing about the prison situation in the press.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

jfc

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

lol, we’re up 95% in a week to 1,100 too.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

when we were uk number one we were something like 780-odd

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

I wonder whether France will ban freight as well as passengers. I wouldn’t be massively keen on trucks coming in from Kent at the moment.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

Ok, France has already suspended freight for 48 hours. Going to need that chips and toast Mail article sooner than expected.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link


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