ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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Think tbh it has every hallmark of a toad of toad hall genius panic plan to justify the lockdown that was required weeks ago

The knock on effects having not occurred (or not being seen as important) would seem likewise characteristic

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link

yes, my view as well. it has all the hallmarks of a badly run project at work. insufficiently thought through, an overplus of 'how hard can it be' and 'we've got to think positively' people, leading to a last minute chaos of underthought consequences, which pure messaging cannot contain.

Fizzles, Monday, 21 December 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link

Toad Hallmark, obv

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/HYNsv6M.png

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

phew! at least they aren't running out of any proper food!

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

Nicola Sturgeon going all in behind the UK panic seems odd.
I get that she was never fully on board with the five day kill yr granny for Christmas thing but our cases, prevalence, hospitalisation and death numbers were all going in the right direction without the new measures.
She seems to have latched onto New Variant as an excuse to really screw everything down further. Possibly a good move politically as UK gets more of the blame while keeping the numbers down.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

fuck this guy

Pressed again on Brexit, Starmer says: "I don't want an extension, I want the deal."

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) December 21, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

surely his focus groups have told him his public image is "whiney ineffectual wanker" by now?

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 December 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

Starmer really is calling the SNP separatists. Read the room mate. Seriously. https://t.co/nlf4e1pG35

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) December 21, 2020

And also fuck him for this, melts are so bad at politics! Is he really so deluded that he thinks that this insipid drivel with extra helpings of offensive condescension is going to cut it in Scotland?

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

my main conclusion is yes, this is his tribe and these are his beliefs, i don't think there's much cynical calculation and certainly no smart electoral branding. maybe he knows more about croissant-munching propensities of red wall voters, fucked if i know.

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 December 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

I'm not taking this shit anymore! sorry but...FUCK STARMER!!

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link

lots of platitudinous drivel about devolution and shifting the balance of power and then this.. yeah if I lived in Scotland I'd vote SNP (with a nose peg on) as well.

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

do all those EU flag lamers who tagged onto this piece of shit when he was Mr People's Vote not want to kill him now he is advocating for either bad-deal/no-deal during the public health crisis since the plague days?

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

worst

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

it seems that a lot of peoples passionate remain positions evaporated around the same time as starmer's

plax (ico), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

Focus groups obv. telling Starmer that people in Scotland are not exactly thrilled about having another referendum, however trying to outflank the Tories and make a bid for the Loyalist bigot vote in Scotland is not the best way to try to capitalize on ballot weariness.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

Today I wrote to the PM demanding that Britain leave the EU at midnight on January 1st — no ifs, no buts. I have also written to Father Christmas saying that I have been a very good and constructive boy this year and can I please have 20 points and also a choo choo train

Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link

just when u think u WTF enuf:

Apologies if you've already seen this pic.twitter.com/TsRoQbLpvY

— Ben Jones (@ben_patio) December 21, 2020

mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

it seems that a lot of peoples passionate remain positions evaporated around the same time as starmer's


weird!

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

"Immediately as soon as the French said, perhaps slightly surprisingly, that they would stop hauliers rather than just passengers, we were in touch with a group known as the Kent Resilience Forum,” Shapps told Sky News on Monday morning

Kent Resilience Forum got this one

kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

fantasy GNU time again is it, me now they've got a Murdoch hack as equalities minister everything is going to be aaallllright.

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

just when u think u WTF enuf:
🐦[Apologies if you’ve already seen this pic.twitter.com/TsRoQbLpvY🕸
— Ben Jones (@ben_patio) December 21, 2020🕸]🐦


oh no.

Fizzles, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

jesus christ just ban journalism sorry ilx journos it's the only way

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

Suzanne Moore as Equalities Minister obv

that heat (Matt #2), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

Starmer: “The Labour Party was first led by Keir Hardie - a Scot - who ended up representing a Welsh constituency. And such was the influence of that boy from Lanarkshire, that many years later a family in Oxted, East Surrey, decided to call their son Keir too."

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) December 21, 2020



https://i.redd.it/oq4ccctjq7e51.png

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

Interestingly @c_drosten, one of Germany’s top virologists, is cautiously relaxed about the coronavirus variant and sceptical about claims of 70% increased transmissability. Suggests local factors in UK may explain that. https://t.co/NVujqD6y3l

— Tom Nuttall (@tom_nuttall) December 21, 2020

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

i can't read german! if anyone has the gist

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

Englander schwein, for you the trade deal is over.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Do not be alarmed! We have all your cabbages.

that heat (Matt #2), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

xps thread here has you covered

A little public service: the main arguments from Germany’s chief virologist @c_drosten, on the new UK #mutation – from this interview in @dlf this morning. https://t.co/0cBt48OTx6

— Christian Odendahl (@COdendahl) December 21, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

(there's always a babelfish level translation built into twitter if you click through to the tweet itself)

mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

"you lot are at it" - @c_drosten

||||||||, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

Reality pic.twitter.com/drjWFxVLef

— Vinnie Jones (@VinnieJones65) December 21, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

I was a bit sceptical about the New Variant doubters this morning, but not any more.

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

Why is Vinnie posting pics of a mud orgy

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

wimbledon vs newcastle, 1993 (not colourised)

imago, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

why did kieth even make that speech about scotland today

||||||||, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

Just so he could drop that cool story about the origins of his name and what a reveal it was

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

that he's from oxted makes 100% sense

imago, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

also the whole tagline for kieth labour is "a new leadership" and his main announcement today seems to have been gordon brown ?

||||||||, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

NEW: Royal Mail and Parcelforce have suspended all postal services to Europe, effective immediatelyhttps://t.co/2CYvcsO7lH

— The Herald (@heraldscotland) December 21, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

I was a bit sceptical about the New Variant doubters this morning, but not any more.


one of the real characteristics of a combination of public relations driven responses (brexit, covid), and information passing like solar waves through our information processing systems (combined with a fucking awful media and i don’t mean just the wasterags that comprise our press but the frequent “detailed reporting is a bit nerdy” of the BBC...

the combination of all that, is an intense and extensive level of epistemological uncertainty. even v informed people (and many ilxors probably fall into that category relatively speaking) don’t know whether something someone says is true, the importance of it if it’s true, whether if it’s true or false, what lies behind it, intent or folly, and what can be said to have agency and what is only a consequence of other equally unknowable things.

there are times when this nexus of confusion is understandable - looking into the future for example, or the “fog of war” - but for a country with a media, a high level of scientific understanding, and strong instructional governance (in which i include “government”) to be here is utterly disastrous.

it’s a fascinating dissolution of an important aspect of a functioning state, which is that it is *legible*. it is possible to see and to a certain extent manage the movement of energies within it.

Fizzles, Monday, 21 December 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

Good to see you onside at last

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

Great.

UPDATE: 5pm with PM, @grantshapps and Sir Patrick Vallance. https://t.co/kJWNfXFTDd

— Joe Pike (@joepike) December 21, 2020

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

this is going to be the big one: PS5's and a huge booze hamper for all households

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

Uh oh

Cheese flavoured Momus (wins), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Grinding fuck out the Labour Party Battle Pass so I can unlock the Dickhead Lawyer skin https://t.co/LhEtRR5y2A

— Bob Crapshit (@aboynamedposh) December 21, 2020

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

lol i was literally just coming here to post that

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

that last Fizzles post is v otm

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

can this cunt ever run a press conference on time?

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link


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