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jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, Kenan, I know you have bitched about Comcast in the past, but I need to get Internet at home, so can you quickly summarize your complaints?

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

They don't let you seed torrents any more.

dan m, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Julia just underwent a Comcast nightmare, so she might have some input.

My beefs with them are that they are CRAZY expensive and their customer service sucks. It's also cheaper to have cable TV with your internet than it is to just have internet, which bothers me because even though I am very content with the DVR technology and would probably miss LA Ink and Dirty Jobs, I was also very content to not have cable TV.

But what are the alternatives? RCN? DSL? They are all problematic in their own ways.

Jenny, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I use RCN, and they've been cool so far. Crazy high-speed internet and lots of channels. What more can you want?

If it matters, I prefer RCN's channel selection, too. You get the Travel Channel (yay Anthony Bourdain!) and TCM standard.

kenan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha ha. My ultra-rural high school won a radio contest sponsored by Toys for Tots so she came to our school dance. It was a huge deal for us. There was alot of screaming involved when they announced it. I stood in line to get an autographed promo shot. I remember thinking it must have been weird for her, being such a huge star in this teeny tiny, countrified h.s. cafeteria.

I don't remember standing around for a long time watching a concert, but I do remember hearing the big hit, Finally. And I feel like Shanice came too - a.k.a. "I like your smile..." - as a supporting act, but my memory is fuzzy.

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

1991, ya'll

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Kr is adamant about not having cable TV.

RCN has a good deal, I think. $19.99 for a year and then "retail price" after that. I'm trying to figure out what "retail price" is, though. (This was on a coupon that the US Postal Service sent me along with my change-of-address confirmation.)

Also, I know absolutely jack about cable Internet or cable anything, so tell me this: How does installation work? I have a cable coming out of my wall -- what exactly gets hooked up? And if the previous tenants used Comcast (as my landlady explained), does that make it harder for me to switch to RCN?

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost WAHT, CECE AND SHANICE? I WOULD'VE DIED.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think you can have cable internet w/out cable tv? Or at least without paying for it. Or at least that's how it works with Charter.

Jordan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

GOOD TIMES.

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't have cable. I mostly want it when I'm home sick.

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I want cable Internet because a) I never use my landline, so it seems pointless to pay for it, and b) it seems like it is faster than DSL? i.e. maybe I could finally watch YouTube videos without the video getting all choppy?

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

you don't have to pay for landlines any more

deej, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

w/ AT&T

deej, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

WHUT?

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess our AT&T bill includes internet and long distance though...

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

We have DSL, and I have no problem watching videos at home. Maybe your computer is just getting ooooooold.

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^yeah this is true for me also

deej, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm, really, do you think that's it? It's 5 years old.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

its $24/month with no added taxes, you have to call and haggle for the change; there's a hotline to switch to straight DSL and they won't tell you it exists on the regular customer service line

888-800-4095

deej, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

That's pretty old. Mine is ~4 years old and it cannot handle youtube etc.

Jordan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know, our laptop is about 4.5 years old, but I think is more powerful than your iMac.

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Oooh, thanks, deej.

I just called RCN, btw, and they said they don't provide service to my building. So it's either go with Comcast or stick with DSL and save up for a new computer.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost Eff you, Nick.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Dirty Projectors sound pretty interesting.

Jordan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

That Dirty Projectors album is ... interesting. It's a cover of almost all of the Black Flag album of the same name, but the main dude supposedly wrote all the arrangements without relistening to the original album, which I guess he hadn't heard since he was a teenager. Some of the weirdness seems a little forced but it is intriguing listening, at least in small doses.

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

but the main dude supposedly wrote all the arrangements without relistening to the original album

This reminds me of Nicholson Baker's U&I, in which he writes a whole book about John Updike (and his relationship with Updike's books) without going back and rereading Updike, so the book is full of misattributed and error-ridden quotes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought John was being sarcastic--as in "Old? YA *THINK*? It's 5 years old!"

To me that's pretty damn old for a computer.

Jesse, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Unless when you got it you pulled out all the stops and made it Future Machine.

Jesse, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess it is. I still think of it as a sleek shiny iMac, though, in contrast to the clunky, enormous, multi-component 1995 PC that I just dumped off at Staples the other day.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, the iMac itself will last a lot longer than that, but the requirements of the OS might start to strain it soon. There's Mac Classics from 1990 still running out there, but they're running OS 7 or some such.

kenan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Nick -- I noticed from the WDYLL that you were at the MCA. Did you see the exhibit about rock music? My dad wants me to give a lecture to his students about it, or about something thematically related, but I kind of want to know what it's all about before committing to it. I'll probably still go see the exhibit regardless.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost I upgraded my OS a couple years ago, from Jaguar to Panther, but that's still a few years old, it looks like.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

MCA is free for the next month, so little risk involved.

Eazy, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a full afternoon of bands playing at the MCA this...Sunday?

Also, do you guys know about the free day of music at Symphony Center next weekend, with Brandford Marsalis with the CSO during the day and Tortise playing along with a silent movie at night?

Eazy, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

That Dirty Projectors album is ... interesting

It's a cool concept, but I assume he's not even trying to replicate the music in anyway, just some of the lyrics?

I would like to reinterpret a Metallica album in this fashion.

Jordan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I meant before committing to the lecture.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I hope you do it; that's be something.

Eazy, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, it sounds fun and you'd do a good job. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN! THEY ARE OUR FUTURE! TEACH THEM NOW AND LET THEM LEAD THE WAY!

That exhibit was pretty fun AND we got free mini cupcakes, but the Tropicalia exhibit was the WIN.

KitCat, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The exhibit is interesting but it mainly seems focused on artists or collectives that straddle the boundaries between rock and roll and "art," so lots of Throbbing Gristle, Destroy All Monsters, Andy Warhol-type stuff, plus some rock musicians who also are visual artists, like dude from Black Dice. Not so much famous album covers or rock iconography. Pretty interesting, but I wish there had been more actual music somehow, because the connection to the music wasn't always clear with only the visual aspect presented. Also I think maybe they were trying to take too wide of a view, could have been more focused on a certain era or style. Still fun though.

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

could have been more focused on a certain era or style

like the Tropicalia exhibit, exactly

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

ooh... tropicalia! That could be educational for me. I only know Caetano Veloso and stuff off of that Soul Jazz comp from a year or so ago (which is ace).

kenan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, the tropicalia exhibit was like a year ago.

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I will have to reread some parts of Simon Reynolds's post-punk book.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Re: focus: next to that Rita Ackerman piece I am standing in front of in the WDYLL pics, there's this description of her and her work, and then it's like "she also did some art for this Royal Trux album" and that seems to be it as far as her connection to rock and roll? I mean, I guess her style is kinda rock and roll but the connection could have been made more explicit. I felt that way about the whole thread of the exhibit: the connections and the relevance were not always clear.

n/a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

and it's free??? fuck, I'll go today. maybe.

i went to the tropicalia exhibit.

river wolf, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ooh, I'm getting a new computer at work! It's about damn time.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

hay john did u get my email last week?

deej, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Katie, I'm using your idea for the flier. Thanks.

Jesse, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link


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