ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

Starmer phoned up Coffey and heard her phone ringing a few feet away in the Carlton Club

Lol at this misspelling of "deal":

Dead is done. Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal.

We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters
The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK. We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU
The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019
The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved. It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021
A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end
We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it
We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world

both the EU and Boris have needed all day to find a way to turn this into a victory for their own side

remember though, this only affects the working class. children of the rich will still be able to experience the benefits of erasmus-like trips, whilst working class kids are pushed further into disillusionment https://t.co/FZWOi5pmBN

— chris.🧃🏄‍♂️ (@chrisstaley_) December 24, 2020

Breaking: Ursula von der Leyen says there will be an overall review after four years to ensure the level playing field is being abided by...

— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) December 24, 2020

Oh good, “no non-tariff barriers” lies the PM

Interesting graphic from the European Comission: pic.twitter.com/LQTBNGLmJH

— Shehab Khan (@ShehabKhan) December 24, 2020

Financial services passporting being excluded looks huge.

lol that's massive

so now that one thing is place, how many more trading deals does boris need to negotiate?

seeing as it's only like three quarters of the whole UK economy, maybe one of the Keunssberg/Pesto cru could have asked a FS question!

Q. Do you accept that you’ve compromised in the last 11 months/days from your earlier absolutist positions?

Can you address services - 80% of the UK economy - will they be able to do more or less trade?

Johnson says they compromised on fishing in terms of the transition period.

He says there isn’t as much in the deal about financial services as they would have liked.

dublin/paris/frankfurt must be rubbing their hands at that.

LOL UK

Financial services passporting being excluded looks huge.

tho i suspect barcode is right that over time a european centre will emerge.

globally getting its business-ass kicked Britain

I know the focus has been on fisheries, due to (probably) some past EU deal that fucked off a lot of the UK industry. Meaning that a lot of the narrative focused on that but leaves out all sorts of goods and industries that will inevitably be fucked over by this deal.

UK leaving Erasmus, RIP

Whatever you think of the prime minister, and few are indifferent, today is a moment of triumph for Boris Johnson.

When he became prime minister, he had no majority, no mandate to call his own, an angry country and an angry Parliament.

My analysis: https://t.co/E3gI1trV7c

— Chris Mason (@ChrisMasonBBC) December 24, 2020

When you're the political editor of The Sun and you have to go out every day and bat for the man who took your girlfriend pic.twitter.com/COxX0KqfF1

— TheIainDuncanSmiths (@TheIDSmiths) December 24, 2020

lol I was just thinking about this when Harry Cole asked some pathetic question like how are we supposed to celebrate this fantastic deal when we are all in tier 4. Lol well we know how Boris likes to celebrate!

Starmer is doing a press conf now and is saying the deal is bad but he'll be voting for it on Wednesday

BREAKING: Keir Starmer says Labour will vote for the deal.

— Balance of Power (@BalancePowerUK) December 24, 2020

I should be happy that the worst has been averted if only because it directly affects me as well, but it all feels quite hollow.

Starmer is doing a press conf now and is saying the deal is bad but he'll be voting for it

starmerism in it's purist form.

disappointed he didn't go for a half arsed abstention tbh

Forensic xp

i will never be as raging about starmer as calzino, mostly because the stakes are low for me personally and i'm pretty self absorbed and generally not that interested in politics. But i don't get how starmer can appeal to even mostly wishy washy apathetic complacent people like me when he literally stands for nothing and believes in nothing and afaict votes for stuff he thinks is bad and abstains on things he thinks are bad. just a criminally laughable bullshit person.

I should be happy that the worst has been averted if only because it directly affects me as well, but it all feels quite hollow.

i will never be as raging about starmer as calzino, mostly because the stakes are low for me personally and i'm pretty self absorbed and generally not that interested in politics. But i don't get how starmer can appeal to even mostly wishy washy apathetic complacent people like me when he literally stands for nothing and believes in nothing and afaict votes for stuff he thinks is bad and abstains on things he thinks are bad. just a criminally laughable bullshit person.

― oscar bravo, Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:43 (fifty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://imgur.com/r/futurama/zzbuCSC

Ah heck, one day I’ll learn to embed a photo correctly

Here you go:

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Watching the curiously named German MEP David McAllister on the news right now.

believe it or not I'm giving Sir melt-cunt a bit of a pass on this, he couldn't really oppose the deal with the parliamentary arithmetic as it is, and lol we should be thankful the worthless prick is not abstaining for once. I don't think there be would enough ERG hardliners to tank this deal, but Sir Haircut sitting on his hand on this might have emboldened them. They have 500 pages to read over the Christmas period before the Wednesday vote and the steam in some of their kitchens might be coming out of their ears!

There's gonna be lot of angry Waitrose loyalty card holders this evening: https://t.co/cbkFYPVq4j

— Paul O'Connell (@pmpoc) December 24, 2020

of course he still is a duplicitous slimeball, but now it isn't the time to be doing anything with the slightest chance of resuming the no-deal roulette

Basically Johnson et al detonated the nuclear option/uncaged the angry tiger/whatever, and I can't see how it's been within anyone's power - Corbyn, Starmer, whoever - to do anything about it. Anyone who thinks Labour should have settled on a firm remain stance doesn't get that there's a vast reserve of dull, reactionary Brits - of all party affiliations - who know in their heart of hearts that Britain is the greatest country in the world and let's take back control etc etc. Now let's watch the UK revert to its pre-Acts of Union configuration as a bonus treat!

yeah to be clear i don't really care about the brexit deal one way or the other tbh. just it's laughable to me that starmer seems to continually take the chance to say how whatever the govt. is doing is bad while not doing anything about.

fair enough the mp count means any opposition is futile but also leaves me with the impression that if he were pm he would have made exactly the same decisions johnson has from everything from covid to schools reopening to brexit deal to landlords etc etc he is boris johnson with a slightly less ridiculous haircut

he often gives me the impression of someone with the potential to be even more fiscally hawkish and more small c conservative than lots of actual members of the Conservative Party and sometimes I think he could be worse than Johnson, who at least flip flops under pressure. At least he's more forensic though!

Lol I hope Corbyn votes against the deal just to fuck with them

all the Corbyn hating FBPEs outraged that he hasn't voted for hard-brexit might melt their brains even more!

Venezuelan socialist style scenes at the local Waitrose, for which I personally blame Mr Jeremy Corbyn. pic.twitter.com/wsiUOAa2Lu

— bat020 (@bat020) December 24, 2020

good day to get this deal done when i couldn't give less of a shit

I'm in a cab home and LBC is about to ask their listeners what they think of the deal. A true race against time, pray for me

hahaha

we will be exceeding 1,000 cases per 100,000 people today. the most shocking part of the statistics here for me, is that out of all the covid cases recorded since March, over 1/3 of them were recorded last week.

― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020

from which statistics did you get the 1/3 figure?

I meant locally where I live. 2400 cases recorded. 900+ last 7 days

Long as we don't have to bust you down to private poo

source: BBC. just looked it up again - total cases 2459. last 7 days 968 (I was wrong about passing the 1,000 point, although it was going up 50-100 per day the last couple of weeks)

lol fucked that up though. 968 is per 100k. actual figure is 897. still over 1/3