By Hera! Come anticipate WONDER WOMAN 1984 with me!

Lol.

Wiig: "One day soon I will gain superpowers and then later I will turn into a cat."
Gadot: "You’re so funny! I can’t stop laughing!!”

What if they did write funny dialogue but as soon as test audiences saw it, they demanded Bridesmaids 1984 instead?

That's what it was, Wiig probably just kept farting at the table.

Wiig: (farts)
Gadot: "You’re so funny! I can’t stop laughing!!”

I always respected the fact that Wiig and her writing partner turned offers to do a Bridesmaid sequel because they didn’t think they could make something as good. That seems rare idk.

no it is not worse than Superman 3.

It is dumb and boring, but as far as DC films go it's actually probably the third best one (I'd saw WW1 is at the top, followed by Aquaman; I know I'm in the minority there but I found that hilariously entertaining).

Aquaman really nailed it’s tone imo. Knowingly stupid without winking.

Also helped by the fact that James Wan probably has unique trash influences and spatial coherence in his approach to action compared to people who make tentpole stuff like that

Well, a third one definitely happening:

https://deadline.com/2020/12/wonder-woman-3-wonder-woman-1984-opening-box-office-1234661808/

Wonder Woman 3 is being fast-tracked, Warner Bros. announced today. The news comes as the pic has amounted to $85M WW after a $16.7M domestic debut.

The threequel will be written by Patty Jenkins, who is attached to direct, and starring Gal Gadot.

...

On HBO Max, WarnerMedia reports that the DC sequel was viewed by “nearly half of the platform’s retail subscribers viewing the film on the day of its arrival, along with millions of wholesale subscribers who have access to HBO Max via a cable, wireless, or other partner services. HBO Max also saw the total viewing hours on Friday more than triple in comparison to a typical day in the previous month.”

Some users on the HBO Max Help Twitter handle reported various glitches, either 4K streaming problems or Roku bad connections. Overall, we hear from insiders that it wasn’t a Defcon4 meltdown, meaning a complete outage of HBO Max.

“Wonder Woman 1984 broke records and exceeded our expectations across all of our key viewing and subscriber metrics in its first 24 hours on the service, and the interest and momentum we’re seeing indicates this will likely continue well beyond the weekend,” said Andy Forssell, Executive Vice President and General Manager, WarnerMedia Direct-to-Consumer in a statement. “During these very difficult times, it was nice to give families the option of enjoying this uplifting film at home, where theater viewing wasn’t an option.”

I am so sick of reading the, “maybe it’s not that WW84 is bad, it’s that you are only now realizing that all superhero movies are bad” garbage takes. No, I feel pretty confident in saying that WW84 is a bad movie by any comparison. It’s like someone having never watched a musical in their entire lives, making it halfway through La La Land and triumphantly declaring, “see? every musical is terrible!”

i realize i am in the minority here but superman 3 is awesome

pvmic <3

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The opening slapstick thing in Superman 3 is good (image of the car filling up with water has long stuck with me) even if it has no place in a Superman movie. The scene where the villain’s sister is turned into a killer robot by the giant super computer is legit terrifying.

This movie has more in common with the scene in IV when (iirc) Superman puts all of the planet's nuclear weapons into a big sack and throws it into space.

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/superman-iv-quest-for-peace/4.gif

Holy shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ysPO7cWRng

"lol sure it was terrible but YOU ALL WATCHED IT so now you get WWIII"

i liked WW84 *runs* sorry ilx hivemind

B and the kids were watching this at home (bcs they went to see it at the cinema earlier in the day and got kicked out due to a fire alarm 30 mins in).

I think I walked past the Tv twice... once Pedro had a blood nose and was yelling something about particles can touch people.. and then at the end, where everyone in our living room looked angry at the TV while a bunch of stuff was going in reverse.

I dont think it got a thumbs up in our house.

I wish--hey, where's that draft coming from?--I had been able to see this at a packed screening at the Uptown. It certainly looks impressive; Georgetown doesn't look nearly so good these days. But such devotion to recreation of a past that only DC-area residents of a certain age will recognize frankly distracts from the lesson of the plot.

I kinda didn't mind the $250 million dollar b movie vibe, fucking ridiculous flick

pedro pascal was chewing up scenery like crazy, almost loony nic cage energy

i enjoyed the architechture

ums totally otm about Nic Cage energy

He's like Nic Cage crossed with Robert Vaughan in Superman 3.

So wait. Imagine that 5% of men wished everyone else's weiner is smaller. How can that 5% all have bigger weiners than the other dickwishers when they all wished for each other to have smaller ones?

FILM DISPROVEN.

would have been amazing if ww's plant to defeat pedro was to let him beam his wishcast with all the particles, leading to this inevitable contradictory mass dickwish, thus destroying the pedro/stone just like kirk fracks an evil AI by telling it a paradox

is there seriously a part in this movie where there's a wishing stone?

yes and then Pedro becomes the stone

oops I meant to type /h....haha

well i guess i'm watching this now

I spent a ton of time telling my friend how terrible it is and then telling him to watch it. Except it's 2.5 hours long, which is a draaaaaaaag.

One of the worst things about EVERYTHING IS STREAMING is the near total devaluation of editing in favor of weak content that provides more eyeballs for longer, ie “the netflix effect.”

Or the “podcast effect.” Or “i wanna be sedated” or whatever.

Eh, lack of good editing and overlong runtimes is a superhero movie (or just Hollywood movie) problem, imo, not a streaming movie problem, imo. Wonder Woman 2 was going to be shitty and boring as anything other than a 22 minute cartoon episode.

I do think the Netflix effect (or whatever we should call it) has hurt lots of documentaries, where the story is stretched out over several episodes just because they have the footage or interviews and time and space to show them, even if they fail to advance the story/narrative.

lack of good editing and overlong runtimes is a superhero movie problem, imo, not a streaming movie problem

and yes, I saw at least 15 bad 90 minute documentaries last year that could have been excellent 30 minute pieces but you don't get funding/distribution that way

DC hardly has a monopoly on overlong superhero headache movies

endgame is the only marvel movie i can think of that really outstayed its welcome for me

sony's marvel stuff on the other hand...

I saw at least 15 bad 90 minute documentaries last year that could have been excellent 30 minute pieces but you don't get funding/distribution that way

Netflix doesn’t shy away from doc shorts (but maybe you’re talking about a different streamer)?

every comic book movie without exception should be 30 minutes shorter than it is

The one that broke me was the Wild, Wild West cult doc (Netflix?), which kept hinting at big revelations that never arrived, and to such an extent that I think we both gave up on it. I thought the Golden State Killer one (HBO) was also too many episodes. It's a combination of wanting to honor the subject but also being unwilling to leave out enticing or salacious or just valuable (from a marketing standpoint) footage or interviews. I didn't watch The Vow (HBO), but my wife asked about it and I told her it was nine hours long and people thought that was both kind of overkill and at the same time almost cynically incomplete. What kind of documentary about a single subject excitedly announces a second season? At a certain point it's no longer a documentary but just a particularly stilted reality show.

The comics movies I generally don't have a problem being too long, even the long ones, because it feels like reading several volumes of a massive crossover comics event. The bad ones (like this one) would have been bad at any length.

Comic book movies can stay the length they are but there should be bathroom breaks at the top of each hour

We watched the HBO docuseries on the McDonalds Monopoly game scam, and that did feel somewhat too long / unfocused.

The (ESPN/Netflix) Michael Jordan series, on the other hand, was well paced etc.

many of the overlong or unnecessarily ruminating or simply poorly structured docs I'm thinking of weren't necessarily made by or for netflix but they are competing for the same airtime and funding so tend to play by the same rules. The reigning formula is taking a small 45 minute story with a simple and interesting hook and padding it out to 90+ minutes with hagiography, wandering vision, gauzy high concept "human interest" elements, unnecessary historical recreation and/or lousy editing... all in the name of hitting a run time that justifies a full-length sale.

From my last year watchlist alone, I'm thinking of Fantastic Fungi, Slay the Dragon, Spaceship Earth, Ringside, Booksellers, Seahorse, Danny Trejo's biodoc, All In, Class Action Park, Tiny Tim's biodoc, The Donut King, Last Breath, The Woman Who Loves Giraffes, It Started as a Joke, Circus of Books, Feels Good Man, Disappearance of my Mother, My Octopus Teacher, The Pollinator, The Last Blockbuster, etc

Errol Morris' Wormwood doc for netflix was the first time i really put 2 & 2 together about modern doc-inflation. I think it was 5 hours? I was so excited for it and so disappointed by it, just insanely padded, with nothing at the end to justify the length. Later I heard an interview with him where he was asked why did he decide this story needed to be 5 hours and he blurted out "that's how much time Netflix gave me to fill", he quickly walked it back but still

cf to Wiseman who regularly produces lean, entrancing four hour documentaries. it can be done! but length is prioritized over quality in this marketplace.

on the other hand, one of the most remarkable and memorable docs i've seen in the past five years is the 15 minute Dolphin Love, which almost certainly will be blown into an unwatchable 5 hour series when and if Netflix opts in.

NB: this is readily available on YouTube and is very much worth watching imo but it's about a guy who falls in love with a dolphin and has sex with it so know that it's deeply problematic before you click.

#OneThread

Ok but again, Netflix does acquire special-interest documentary shorts (dolphin sex may be a little too “special-interest,” lol)