Con Air vs The Rock vs Face/Off

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Woo's best American film is Hard Target, this is canon

Con Air has the greatest cast ever assembled and the only way it could maybe have been improved is if Verhoeven had directed it, just to put the icing on its homage and piss take of the action movie genre. Also he'd probably have destroyed more of Vegas.

100% agree on hard target, lots to love in that movie. mullet, soundtrack, wilford's accent, lance h.

broken arrow was a slog but HT and face off should be in the retrospective alongside a better tomorrow and bullet in the head and hard boiled etc.

the michael bay movies are good but they're not stupid enough. the reason bad boys 2 is his best movie is that exuberant spanielish stupidity tempering and enhancing the nihilistic focus group cynicism that animates his work otherwise.

100% agree on hard target, lots to love in that movie. mullet, soundtrack, wilford's accent, lance h.

And this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tRFFMiD5AI

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I want to take his face.....off.

i should rewatch The Rock. am i right that it has a big expensive San Francisco car chase AND a Temple of Doom style mine-cart chase?

Never seen The Rock. Give us a vaccine, nationalise cinemas and run free action movies in all multiplexes for a year.

It's good though I'm surprised it won so easily.

Same. I dont rly see much difference in rating across the three tbh

Right, I‘ve never seen The Rock, so I‘m going to give it a go. Face/Off is one of my favourite OTT 90s action films and I would have voted for it in a heartbeat if I‘d seen this poll before.

Easily The Rock for me. I am there for the nonsense, explosions, Cage, fun chatter (Clement and La Frenais?) etc but I truly love Ed Harris off sideways in a stern tragedy of military honour vs the state & mercenary interests.

(Clement and La Frenais?)

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I am there for the nonsense, explosions, Cage, fun chatter (Clement and La Frenais?) etc but I truly love Ed Harris off sideways in a stern tragedy of military honour vs the state & mercenary interests

Exactly. Harris is in a completely different movie from everyone else, and seems to have 100% internalized the idea that the villain believes himself to be the hero. He's one of my favorite actors.

Its a great role for him in context, its not like his internalised intensity is any less than cages burst variety, Connery's always-smoulder is background hum

This poll made me watch The Rock. I don't know what 15 of you are smoking, but you've clearly list your... marbles. Anyway, Face/Off is by far the best film on this list.

Exactly the pitch and passion of take that is correct for this madhouse poll, ty

Today i think its the rock

Just remembered broken arrow but christian slater is no nic cage

The marbles aren't nuclear, they're full of poison gas.

Paying too much attn imo

all 3 are A+