The Sopranos Vs. The Wire

apparently Isiah Whitlock Jr is in Not Fade Away which I guess it as close as we'll get to a crossover

and Method Man ... omg ... like Method Man compared to all the hacky mob dudes ... no contest there

C-

Method Man did some good work, but there's no way he was ever given any material to shine like "Pine Barrens" or scenes like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mC2ioV7FKc

"his house looked like shit"

van zandt's delivery is perfect here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OZEimXRFIE

Tony's angry squint in that scene omg

"your hair was in the toilet water. disgusting."

lol @ Furio looking uncomfortable in the back. I always loved him

During the fourth season of Celebrity Apprentice, Castelluccio was asked by Donald Trump to judge which celebrity designed the best hat. Castelluccio eventually chose La Toya Jackson. She was awarded $25,000 for her charity, the AIDS Project Los Angeles.

when i brought up rewatching the sopranos to my SO they immediately got happy and recalled a peak furio scene that i'd lapsed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvuP_OjWlU

TV shows
1991–1996 Another World – Maltese Guard; 4 episodes
2000–2002 The Sopranos – Furio Giunta
2003 NYPD Blue – Brian Vaughn; 1 episode
2008 Law & Order: Criminal Intent – Frank Chess; 1 episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh1m-B0ywhc

some....odd selections in there

apparently Isiah Whitlock Jr is in Not Fade Away which I guess it as close as we'll get to a crossover

― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, January 22

Michael K. and J.D. Williams both appear in the Sopranos

Sil is the best sopranos character

Lady gaga the best actress in it

I shoulda recognized her as that tray of gabagool

Ten years ago I would have said The Wire. Now I would say The Sopranos.

The former is 5 seasons of NPR "Do You See?" (albeit some of it great). The latter is Shakespeare in the swamps of Jersey.

The former is about the past. The latter is about the future.

Michael K. and J.D. Williams both appear in the Sopranos

Also Michael P. Jordan has a blink-or-you-ll-miss-it turn as one of a group of kids who antagonize a young Tony in a flashback scene.

er, blink-AND-you'll-miss-it

oh, and make that Michael B. Jordan...god I suck today

teenage AJ would have had a 4-chan Pepe phase y/n? or maybe gone MRA after his woc fiancée dumped him.

feel like AJ of the oughts vs AJ of the Trump era could be an interesting contrast

interesting

depressing

i had forgotten about that painting scene; that good shakespearean stuff

would carmella go maga y/n

demographically likely but he would probably remind her too much of her dead husband's shitty friends

oh right if he is that could change everything

would a rich white suburban Bush-voting real estate developer go MAGA, hmmm idk it's a puzzle

do yall not remember her pressuring her neighbor's sister to get Meadow into Georgetown? or getting Tony to lean on the housing inspector for her cheap spec house she sold to her cousin? Carmella is more trump-like than anyone else on the entire show

yeah but I like her so I want to believe she wouldn't. I imagine some americans are familiar with the feeling

I can't imagine Carmella not going MAGA. Tony would already have contracts with and compromat on Trump but whether Trump would be of more use or too dangerous in the White House would be an interesting question to ponder. I think it would come down to business for T, though.

Which member of BTS would be Carmella's favorite?

the tallest one, duh

hahaha

speaking of shakespearean -- Season 3 of the Wire with Avon vs. Stringer and the betrayals at the end ...

that was v good. high point of the series

the "get on with it" "do it goddamn it" parallels with stringer and wallace always hit hard
judging the wire on its status as truth detracts from the strength of the storytelling imo, the show works and works well

it's also set up as a parallel b/w Stringer and Colvin

you want it to be one thread, but it's the other thread

lol

midgets!

also a perennial fave: Did he have hands? ... Did he have a head? ... Then it wasn't us.

that guy was really good.

Shakespearean

I dont understand what americans mean when they type this word

I am not convinced that they do either

/Pinefox

I think they mean "so good it could be classic literature"? idk

The instances of "sopranos is......shakespearean" above *as a contrasting quality to the wire* are imo using a descriptor out of any useful informative quality other than "i like this" and tbh the world would be a better place if when we liked something but didnt feel like getting into nuts and bolts why we just said "i like this"

The effect it would have on ilm for a start would be only positive

so every thread should be "I like Wire" and follow-ups "me 2!"?

I'm only here for nuts and bolts!

I'm only here for nuts

these shows come from a period when people felt the need to justify taking TV seriously by comparing it to Serious Art. it’s like those contemporary reviews of Sgt Pepper that strained to compare it to classical music because rock/pop wasn’t deemed important enough to deserve all this exegesis

there are plenty of ways to say I like this/I hate this/this bit was good/these themes are interesting/etc without such unnecessary analogies

When I hear "Shakespearean," I think it refers to dialogue that is lyrical, and harder-to-comprehend than naturalistic language, but that rewards the attentive listener.