Favourite Miyazaki film

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Yeah Howl's gets better every time I see it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The only problem with Howl is that it just misses out on being as wonderful as the original book.

Greig (treefell), Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Will rep for Mononoke til the end!

Suedey 2, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

LA Times interview with Miyazaki. Hoping like hell *somewhere* in the LA basin Ponyo will be screened with subtitles...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

wow he turned into The Architect from the second Matrix movie

it is an interesting interview, thanks for the link

Nhex, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

there was an advanced screening of ponyo here on friday w subtitles not dub!...i watched it about a month ago, i love it, his most innocent and childlike film since totoro. my son saw previews on cartoon network and said he has no intention of watching it, i saw the same preview yesterday and can't say i blame him, the dub sounds terrible and they chose the most disney ass bullshit scenes to show in the trailer.

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Monday, 10 August 2009 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

miyazaki may be the only director who hasn't made one film i didn't love

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Monday, 10 August 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who's intensely annoyed by the music of Spirited Away?

Turangalila, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw Ponyo with subs the other week. its definitely aimed at a younger audience like Totoro, some odd but beautiful imagery at times. and no flying sequences that i can remember! worth seeing if you can handle the twee.

zappi, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

there was an advanced screening of ponyo here on friday w subtitles not dub!.

Man, lucky.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I am still really excited to see this.

ENBB, Monday, 10 August 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Miyazaki say something like this is his last film? I forget.. I remember him not caring much for his son's work.

CaptainLorax, Monday, 10 August 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Tuarangalila, you may have been my neighbor on Last.fm but I can't share your annoyance. Rather the opposite.

B'wana Beast, Monday, 10 August 2009 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to go and see this, but if there's going to be fucking subtitles scrawled all over the animation I'm outta there.

DavidM, Monday, 10 August 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

It's either that or hearing young Cyruses and Jonases speak.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

B'wana Beast,

Hee! :) What's your screen name?

Turangalila, Monday, 10 August 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd rank "Ponyo" below everything I've seen from Miyazaki, beautiful pastel backgrounds or no. I understand the "think like a child" concept, but that's no excuse for lazy plotting and so many loose ends. It felt like there was 20 minutes missing, yet at the same time the movie felt too long (it barely held the attention of my 4 1/2 year old, who loves "Totoro" and "Kiki's"). And "Ponyo" ends as abruptly and lamely as a generic freeze-frame high-five.

Perhaps if I were better versed in Japanese mythology I'd have liked the movie better. Certainly it starts out fine, or at least fine enough. But by the 2/3rds mark the pronounced lack of plot/drama started to really irk me. Big disappointment from a director I love.

For what it's worth, I saw the "dubbed" version, but John Lasseter from Pixar typically oversees all the "dubbing" of Miyazaki's films, and the voice work was OK. And besides, as Ebert wrote in his overly enthusiastic if well-intentioned review of "Ponyo:"

“Is it only dubbed?” I was asked. You dummy! All animated films are dubbed! Little Nemo can’t really speak!

Anyway, I'd rather have more misses from this guy than hits from the usual assembly line players. But I'd still prefer hits from him all the same.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone know if there is a subtitled release in theaters in NY? I couldn't find a listing for a subbed version on moviefone...

Nhex, Monday, 17 August 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

"pronounced lack of plot" is usually a good point, with miyazaki, though

thomp, Monday, 17 August 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

just ONE vote for cagliostro? wow ilx u siccen me yet again

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

lil nublets

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I would say Nausicaa by a pretty heaven margin now, also,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OkT5HyumQ4

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

nausicaa suffers from comparison with the manga, which was some next level shit, but it has moments in it unlike anything else in miyazaki's career - it's more like a trad post-apocalyptic anime in that sense i guess

i think laputa is the weakest

porco rosso is great, especially the french dub featuring jean reno

future boy conan deserves some luv here too imo

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

read a think with miyazaki recently where he says he hates porco rosso, he kinda dislikes a lot of his films and didn't enjoy making any of them and is a lot crankier than I expected

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Was supposed to see Nausicaa in the theater recently but it didn't happen. ;_;

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i've only seen spirited away, howl's moving castle, and totoro. <3 totoro so much

i guess i should watch nausicaa next?

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

animators are generally miserable people

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

no fuck that you should watch castle of cogliostro next!!!!! nausicaa is really pretty weak

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

turns out cogliostro is the only one available to watch instantly on netflix so i guess that's the one for me ^_____^

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

kismet

ps - I know what I'm doing tonight now!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

its the most fun of his movies

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post "Pronounced lack of plot" as in setting the film up for stuff that is alluded to but which never happens. Like, the set-up is all there, but the delivery is off. It'd be a bit like "Spirited Away" if the girl finds the spirit world, wanders around for a little, then goes home. The end. It'd be nice to look at, but it'd be lacking. Even Alice needs something to do in Wonderland. In "Ponyo," there is just no obstacle to surmount, no challenge, despite hints of global environmental imbalance and impending catastrophe. At one point one character says another is to be tested, very dramatically, then we flash to that character about to enter a dark tunnel. What's in the tunnel? What will he face? Um, nothing. He walks through the tunnel. At another point, a character notes of a magical well that it would be a disaster were any living creature to come in contact with it. Then a living creature comes in contact with it, and ... nothing? I'm still not sure. Hence this weird "what's missing here?" vibe to the movie.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I absolutely adore Totoro, but Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke were really boring for me. Not sure why.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

gbx, did you watch it?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Hence this weird "what's missing here?" vibe to the movie.

I certainly felt this, but honestly it didn't bother me that much. I mean, the scene where Ponyo is running on top of the giant fish is one of the best scenes in the history of animation. I felt that I got my money's worth + a weird taste in my mouth at the end (especially because of the song).

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

turns out cogliostro is the only one available to watch instantly on netflix so i guess that's the one for me ^_____^

Cagliostro is brilliant though. One of his best, alongside Porco, Spirited and Totoro.

DavidM, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I loved Ponyo running with joy across the giant fish! Sort of wish the movie ended right after that, when she reunited with Sosuke. Everything following that was totally pointless, if not completely nonsensical (and not in the fun way). The extended sequence of her feeding that baby? The whole notion of her getting sleepy and reverting to fish form? The entire "Cocoon"-esque ending in the jellyfish/bubble by the old folks home? The fact that no one noticed/cared the moon was hovering a few feet away? No follow-up on the hundreds (?) of ships trapped in that wall of ocean, let alone the massive near-destruction of the world? It was as if the whole village was just enjoying a day spent punting along the rising water, which is fine, but which totally lacked portent, given the wizard's build-up of the dangerous imbalance with nature.

I can go with it up to a point, but don't really understand the hyperbolic praise being lavished on it, especially compared to Miyazaki's more obvious peaks. If he wanted to craft a crazy dream-like world, he should have done so. This one lacked resonance.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

no fuck that you should watch castle of cogliostro next!!!!! nausicaa is really pretty weak

― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

you're really pretty weak

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 22 August 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Ponyo custom-made for ichthyologists or what?

god bless this -ation (Abbott), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Her dad's reaction to her turning into a human (or at least the weird chicken-fish-girl) for the first time reminded me of a dad encountering his first daughter hit puberty. "Revert! REVERT!" And the mom's just bemused.

god bless this -ation (Abbott), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

lol at Capt Lorax. wtf?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

nuh uh

peacocks, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Do kids like Totoro? A friend was asking me if I could lend him any films to entertain his kids (to stop the usual 3 on repeat melting his brain). But it seems a bit...unfocussed...for children.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

i LOVED totoro as a kid but what i did was make up a big stupid action thriller plot going on "behind" the actual plot, because i was an american. so if your friend's kids are philistines like me, don't worry, it can still work.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

saw totoro when i was ~10 years old and loved it

i loved spirited away when it came out, but at this point i can't think of a movie i'd be less interested in revisiting. totoro is much more pimp

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

spirited away is worth revisiting. so's totoro.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link

yes, kids love Totoro. (based on kids I have shown it to between 3 and 12)

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 30 June 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't really get into Totoro, but then I did see it after Spirited and Howl's. The film I'm most likely to revisit is Howl's these days - it gets a bad rap because the ending's one of the worst examples of deus ex machina I can think of, but there's a lot of great stuff in there.

la tristessa demerera (dog latin), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

i honestly don't think any child should get to the age of twelve WITHOUT seeing totoro

ain't nuthin but a chicken waaaang (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link


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