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kind of looks like 4 films in a series

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

looks like an only connect sequence

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

I watched Promising Young Woman because I hate myself. "Stars Are Blind" was the best part

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:20 (three years ago) link

this movie is so bad I swear I wrote it myself

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link

in better news GUNDA whips

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link

Noted on Gunda

(whatever happened to Cameron Diaz?)

quit acting, after publishing two wellness books, to concentrate on investing in biotech startups

― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:16 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This is so depressing (for me)

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 05:18 (three years ago) link

spoilers for promising young woman

the more I think about this movie the more infuriating it is. the characters are, without fail, cartoons, straw(wo)men, or story props. the dialogue sounds like someone fed mid-aughts tumblr to a neural network. the final 20 minutes are jaw-droppingly misconceived. cool how it subverts the rape-revenge movie.....by having the only people who die be women and by having its female protagonist terrorize other women! I also love it when a would-be angry grindhouse pastiche has the runtime and jokeresque self-seriousness of any other contemptible fest/awards bait. the only thing that could have almost saved this piece of shit would have been anna faris

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link

oh and another thing that pissed me off was the parade of hip hollywood liberals (all comics or sitcom stars, do you see????) lining up to smugly mug it up as one-dimensional creeps

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:35 (three years ago) link

Simon so OTM altho I thought the casting of those guys was the only clever thing about it. Would've been great in a better movie.

flappy bird, Thursday, 28 January 2021 05:39 (three years ago) link

It was more clever than the rest of the movie I'll give it that

in other news, will not be checking out Malcom & Marie, thanks

Malcolm and Marie’s fraught relationship history proves so disengaging that Levinson’s fixation on critical reception becomes almost impossible to ignore. Not all of his objections are unfounded. In Malcolm & Marie’s best scene, Marie raises the hypothetical yet believable scenario of Malcolm getting hired to direct a Lego movie, and the waves of hyper-politicized discourse that would follow entirely because of his race. Levinson’s right, too, that some critics fumble with technical language or too narrowly focus on a film’s progressive messaging at the expense of everything else. Yet the sheer amount of time Malcolm & Marie devotes to Malcolm raving about the ineptitude of critics betrays a consuming anxiety. He reserves much scorn for a “white lady from The L.A. Times,” which either refers to a fictional straw(wo)man or real-life L.A. Times critic Katie Walsh. Is it because Walsh gave a negative review to Levinson’s debut feature, Assassination Nation, much like the film’s unnamed critic did to Malcolm’s previous film? Or is it another smokescreen for Levinson to hide behind so that he can insist that critics fall into the trap of assuming intentions they don’t understand? Either way, this petty film puts hoary clichés about critical misunderstanding—updated for the online think-piece era—into the mouth of a character who asserts that Do The Right Thing was revolutionary because it was “made at a time when politics weren’t cool.”

fuck off, son of Barry

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 11:32 (three years ago) link

whatever else is going on there aside,

hired to direct a Lego movie, the waves of hyper-politicized discourse that would follow entirely because of his race

...did this happen when the writer/directors of the Lego Movie hired the directors of Into The Spider-Verse, which they produced and one of them wrote?

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 28 January 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

I wish this had been a somber black-and-white retelling of the writing process for Spider-Verse, tbh

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 11:58 (three years ago) link

In hindsight, it was kind of hilarious that people were actually thinking, “Hey, maybe *this* is the kind of year where a movie like FIRST COW will actually be taken seriously as an awards contender.” Lucy, football, etc.

— Scott Renshaw “at” Sundance (@scottrenshaw) February 3, 2021

GOLDEN GLOBE NOMINATIONS

BEST MOTION PICTURE – DRAMA
The Father
Mank
Nomadland
Promising Young Woman
The Trial of the Chicago 7

BEST ACTOR – DRAMA
Riz Ahmed – Sound of Metal
Chadwick Boseman – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Anthony Hopkins – The Father
Gary Oldman – Mank
Tahar Rahim – The Mauritanian

BEST ACTRESS – DRAMA
Viola Davis – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Andra Day – The United States vs. Billie Holiday
Vanessa Kirby – Pieces of a Woman
Frances McDormand – Nomadland
Carey Mulligan – Promising Young Woman

BEST MOTION PICTURE – MUSICAL/COMEDY
Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Hamilton
Music
Palm Springs
The Prom

BEST ACTOR – MUSICAL/COMEDY
Sacha Baron Cohen – Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
James Corden – The Prom
Lin-Manuel Miranda – Hamilton
Dev Patel – The Personal History of David Copperfield
Andy Samberg – Palm Springs

BEST ACTRESS – MUSICAL/COMEDY
Maria Bakalova – Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Kate Hudson – Music
Michelle Pfeiffer – French Exit
Rosamund Pike – I Care a Lot
Anya Taylor-Joy – Emma.

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Sacha Baron Cohen – The Trial of Chicago 7
Daniel Kaluuya – Judas and the Black Messiah
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Bill Murray – On the Rocks
Leslie Odom Jr. – One Night in Miami

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Glenn Close – Hillbilly Elegy
Olivia Colman – The Father
Jodie Foster – The Mauritanian
Amanda Seyfried – Mank
Helena Zengel – News of the World

BEST DIRECTOR
Emerald Fennell – Promising Young Woman
David Fincher – Mank
Regina King – One Night in Miami
Aaron Sorkin – The Trial of Chicago 7
Chloé Zhao – Nomadland

BEST SCREENPLAY
The Father
Mank
Nomadland
Promising Young Woman
The Trial of Chicago 7

BEST SCORE
Mank
The Midnight Sky
News of the World
Soul
Tenet

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
“Fight For You” – Judas and the Black Messiah
“Hear My Voice” – The Trial of the Chicago 7
“Io Sì (Seen)” – The Life Ahead
“Speak Now” – One Night in Miami
“Tigress & Tweed” – The United States vs. Billie Holiday

BEST MOTION PICTURE – ANIMATED
The Croods: A New Age
Onward
Over the Moon
Soul
Wolfwalkers

BEST MOTION PICTURE – FOREIGN LANGUAGE
Another Round
La Llorona
The Life Ahead
Minari
Two of Us

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:12 (three years ago) link

Of all the Golden Globes, this year's the Golden Globe-iest.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:13 (three years ago) link

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things
Jared Leto – The Little Things

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

When did they stop giving out the New Star of the Year Award? All those future Pia Zadoras left undiscovered.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

bleak

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

do I even like movies

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

Didn't recognize the title but looked up Music and of course it's that Sia movie. That must be the Globe-iest one.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

and yet

BEST ACTOR
James Corden – The Prom

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

If Leto gets an Oscar nomination over Paul Raci, I will lose my goddamn mind.

— Josh Spiegel (@mousterpiece) February 4, 2021

SAG AWARD NOMINATIONS

Cast in a Motion Picture
“Da 5 Bloods”
“Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom”
“Minari”
“One Night In Miami”
“Trial of the Chicago 7”

Male Actor in a Leading Role in a Motion Picture
Riz Ahmed (“Sound of Metal”)
Chadwick Boseman (“Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom”)
Anthony Hopkins (“The Father”)
Gary Oldman (“Mank”)
Steven Yeun (“Minari”)

Female Actor in a Leading Role in a Motion Picture
Amy Adams (“Hillbilly Elegy”)
Viola Davis (“Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom”)
Vanessa Kirby (“Pieces of a Woman”)
Frances McDormand (“Nomadland”)
Carey Mulligan (“Promising Young Woman”)

Male Actor in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture
Sacha Baron Cohen (“The Trial of the Chicago 7”)
Chadwick Boseman (“Da 5 Bloods”_
Daniel Kaluuya (“Judas and the Black Messiah”)
Jared Leto (“The Little Things”)
Leslie Odom, Jr. (“One Night in Miami”)

Female Actor in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture
Maria Bakalova (“Borat Subsequent Moviefilm”)
Glenn Close (“Hillbilly Elegy”)
Olivia Colman (“The Father”)
Youn Yuh-Jung (“Minari”)
Helena Zengel (“News of the World”)

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

So, Golden Globes are treating Hamilton as a movie and SAG is treating it as TV?

jaymc, Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

And the Oscars are passing entirely.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

these oscar noms are gonna be singularly abysmal hahaha

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

As ever.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

award season is the worst except on ILX

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link

James Corden acts gay for two hours and gets a Golden Globe nomination, I act straight for 23 years and all I get is trauma

— Justin Randall (@imjustinrandall) February 3, 2021

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Thursday, 4 February 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

WGA nods:

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
“Judas and the Black Messiah” (Warner Bros) – Screenplay by Will Berson & Shaka King, Story by Will Berson & Shaka King and Kenny Lucas & Keith Lucas
“Palm Springs” (Hulu/Neon) – Screenplay by Andy Siara, Story by Andy Siara & Max Barbakow
“Promising Young Woman” (Focus Features) – Written by Emerald Fennell
“Sound of Metal” (Amazon Studios) – Screenplay by Darius Marder & Abraham Marder, Story by Darius Marder & Derek Cianfrance
“The Trial of the Chicago 7” (Netflix) – Written by Aaron Sorkin

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
“Borat Subsequent Moviefilm” (Amazon Studios) – Screenplay by Sacha Baron Cohen & Anthony Hines & Dan Swimer & Peter Baynham & Erica Rivinoja & Dan Mazer & Jena Friedman & Lee Kern, Story by Sacha Baron Cohen & Anthony Hines & Dan Swimer & Nina Pedrad, Based on Characters Created by Sacha Baron Cohen
“Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom” (Netflix) – Screenplay by Ruben Santiago-Hudson, Based on the Play Written by August Wilson
“News of the World” (Universal Pictures) – Screenplay by Paul Greengrass and Luke Davies, Based upon the Novel by Paulette Jiles
“One Night in Miami” (Amazon Studios) – Screenplay by Kemp Powers, Based on the Stage Play “One Night in Miami” by Kemp Powers
“The White Tiger” (Netflix) – Screenplay by Ramin Bahrani, Based on the Book “The White Tiger” by Aravind Adiga

DOCUMENTARY SCREENPLAY
“All In: The Fight for Democracy” (Amazon Studios) – Written by Jack Youngelson
“The Dissident” (Briarcliff Entertainment) – Written by Mark Monroe and Bryan Fogel
“Herb Alpert Is…” (Abramorama) – Written by John Scheinfeld; Abramorama
“Red Penguins” (Universal Pictures) – Written by Gabe Polsky
“Totally Under Control” (Neon) – Written by Alex Gibney

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "documentary screenplay" before. They must have some line for how much a documentary is scripted to be eligible (someone like Wiseman would check in at 0%).

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

promising young woman and chicago 7 nods are predictable but infuriating

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link

whatever, no one saw any of these movies anyway

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 February 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

I swear the only movie I saw in the last year I even remotely liked was the Soderbergh divas cruise one ... maybe the hot Riz Ahmed is deaf one.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 February 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

are you saying riz ahmed is hotter when deaf

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 February 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

wow -- not a single innaresting film in the bunch

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 February 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

Judas was better than I expected, but my bar was really low.

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 February 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Minari's turned up a few times on this thread--thought it was good. I could see someone finding the grandmother a little precious, but for me, she was a nice cross between Pather Panchali's grandmother and Aunt Lotte from Stranger Than Paradise.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 March 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

Well then ... BAFTA weighs in:

Best Film
“The Father”
The Mauritanian”
“Nomadland”
“Promising Young Woman”
“The Trial Of The Chicago 7”

Leading Actress
Bukky Bakray, “Rocks”
Radha Blank, “The Forty-Year-Old Version”
Vanessa Kirby, “Pieces Of A Woman”
Frances McDormand, “Nomadland”
Wunmi Mosaku, “His House”
Alfre Woodard, Clemency”

Leading Actor
Riz Ahmed, “Sound Of Metal”
Chadwick Boseman, “Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom”
Adarsh Gourav, “The White Tiger”
Anthony Hopkins, “The Father”
Mads Mikkelsen, “Another Round”
Tahar Rahim, “The Mauritanian”

Supporting Actress
Niamh Algar, “Calm With Horses”
Kosar Ali, “Rocks”
Maria Bakalova, “Borat Subsequent Moviefilm”
Dominique Fishback, “Judas And The Black Messiah”
Ashley Madekwe, County Lines”
Yuh-Jung Youn, “Minari”

Supporting Actor
Daniel Kaluuya, “Judas And The Black Messiah”
Barry Keoghan, “Calm With Horses”
Alan Kim, “Minari”
Leslie Odom Jr., “One Night In Miami…”
Clarke Peters, “Da 5 Bloods”
Paul Raci, “Sound Of Metal”

Outstanding British Film
“Calm With Horses”
“The Dig”
“The Father”
“His House”
“Limbo”
“The Mauritanian”
“Mogul Mowgli”
“Promising Young Woman”
“Rocks”
“Saint Maud”

Outstanding Debut By A British Writer, Director Or Producer
“His House,” Remi Weekes (Writer/Director)

“Limbo,” Ben Sharrock (Writer/Director), Irune Gurtubai (Producer) [Also Produced By Angus Lamont]

“Moffie,” Jack Sidey (Writer/Producer) [Also Written By Oliver Hermanus And Produced By Eric Abraham]

“Rocks,” Theresa Ikoko, Claire Wilson (Writers)

“Saint Maud,” Rose Glass (Writer/Director), Oliver Kassman (Producer) [Also Produced By Andrea Cornwell]

Film Not In The English Language
“Another Round”
“Dear Comrades!”
“Les Misérables”
“Minari”
“Quo Vadis, Aida?”

Documentary
“Collective”
“David Attenborough: A Life On Our Planet”
“The Dissident”
“My Octopus Teacher”
“The Social Dilemma”

Animated Film
“Onward”
“Soul”
“Wolfwalkers”

Director
Another Round, Thomas Vinterberg
Babyteeth, Shannon Murphy
Minari, Lee Isaac Chung
Nomadland, Chloé Zhao
Quo Vadis, Aida?, Jasmila Žbanić
Rocks, Sarah Gavron

Original Screenplay
Another Round, Tobias Lindholm, Thomas Vinterberg
Mank, Jack Fincher
Promising Young Woman, Emerald Fennell
Rocks, Theresa Ikoko, Claire Wilson
The Trial Of The Chicago 7, Aaron Sorkin

Adapted Screenplay
The Dig, Moira Buffini
The Father, Christopher Hampton, Florian Zeller
The Mauritanian, Rory Haines, Sohrab Noshirvani, M.B. Traven
Nomadland, Chloé Zhao
The White Tiger, Ramin Bahrani

Original Score
Mank, Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross
Minari, Emile Mosseri
News Of The World, James Newton Howard
Promising Young Woman, Anthony Willis
Soul, Jon Batiste, Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross

Casting
Calm With Horses, Shaheen Baig
Judas And The Black Messiah, Alexa L. Fogel
Minari ,Julia Kim
Promising Young Woman, Lindsay Graham Ahanonu, Mary Vernieu
Rocks, Lucy Pardee

Cinematography
Judas And The Black Messiah, Sean Bobbitt
Mank, Erik Messerschmidt
The Mauritanian, Alwin H. Küchler
News Of The World, Dariusz Wolski
Nomadland, Joshua James Richards

Editing
The Father, Yorgos Lamprinos
Nomadland, Chloé Zhao
Promising Young Woman, Frédéric Thoraval
Sound Of Metal, Mikkel E.G. Nielsen
The Trial Of The Chicago 7, Alan Baumgarten

Production Design
The Dig, Maria Djurkovic, Tatiana Macdonald
The Father, Peter Francis, Cathy Featherstone
Mank, Donald Graham Burt, Jan Pascale
News Of The World, David Crank, Elizabeth Keenan
Rebecca, Sarah Greenwood, Katie Spencer

Costume Design
Ammonite, Michael O’connor
The Dig, Alice Babidge
Emma, Alexandra Byrne
Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Ann Roth
Mank, Trish Summerville

Make Up & Hair
The Dig, Jenny Shircore
Hillbilly Elegy, Patricia Dehaney, Eryn Krueger Mekash, Matthew Mungle
Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Matiki Anoff, Larry M. Cherry, Sergio Lopez-Rivera, Mia Neal
Mank, Kimberley Spiteri, Gigi Williams
Pinocchio, Mark Coulier

Sound
Greyhound, Tbc
News Of The World, Michael Fentum, William Miller, Mike Prestwood Smith, John Pritchett, Oliver Tarney
Nomadland, Sergio Diaz, Zach Seivers, M. Wolf Snyder
Soul, Coya Elliott, Ren Klyce, David Parker
Sound Of Metal, Jaime Baksht, Nicolas Becker, Phillip Bladh, Carlos Cortés, Michelle Couttolenc

Special Visual Effects
Greyhound, Pete Bebb, Nathan Mcguinness, Sebastian Von Overheidt
The Midnight Sky, Matt Kasmir, Chris Lawrence, David Watkins
Mulan, Sean Faden, Steve Ingram, Anders Langlands, Seth Maury
The One And Only Ivan, Santiago Colomo Martinez, Nick Davis, Greg Fisher
Tenet, Scott Fisher, Andrew Jackson, Andrew Lockley

British Short Animation
The Fire Next Time, Renaldho Pelle, Yanling Wang, Kerry Jade Kolbe
The Owl And The Pussycat, Mole Hill, Laura Duncalf
The Song Of A Lost Boy, Daniel Quirke, Jamie Macdonald, Brid Arnstein

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link

I get a new hive every time PYW gets a screenplay citation

I would object to Sorkin getting slotted in Original Screenplay since he had court transcripts to work from, but there's zero reality in that movie, so

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

Whoa, the acting noms are pretty good! Bukky Bakray, Kosar Ali, Wunmi Mosaku... really loved all those performances.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

(Not sure if I should even start a detrius thread for 2021 given awards shows' days are numbered.)

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 10 May 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

No idea where to post this--there's like 40 Netflix threads.

I did feel like work, but I didn't hate Malcolm & Marie. First half, pretty good; many, many words, but it felt more or less real, or at least as real as Virginia Woolf. The first speech where it turned into what I thought it'd be was John David Washington's long post-review rant. Anyway, I liked it better than the last movie I saw, about future people harvesting the sand. Some good music--an early Dionne Warwick song I'd never heard, also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enX9Fr-I8MA

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link


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