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Its a nomination thread and a poll thread at least, but theres just no way that you just offered gabriel byrne from millers crossing up as bloom-level

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

I think Emilia Clarke feels left out.

chap, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link

He's hollow-eyed and banal but I've come to accept, even quite like Bloom as Legolas. Don't @ me.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:40 (three years ago) link

I very fuckin will

Anyway there's a thread for this

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

Somehow this discussion of Our Presidetn has reminded me of a song I began writing for the Hallmark Movie version of LOTR
🎶 What do your
Elf
Eyes
Seeeeeee?
They see me seeing you seeing meeeee🎶

Another of the scenes Jackson got right was the Orcs beset by the Rohirrim. Tolkien’s account of M&P escaping is weirdly slack (altho its great to see Pippin in trickster mode).

I don't mind Bloom, though film Legolas isn't anything like my image of the book Legolas (more of a general elf issue, perhaps). It's also missing some fun moments like his petulance at being blindfolded in Lorien.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

tolkien grew up around birmingham alabama
His muse the statue ov Vulcan on Red Mountain---hard to pick a pic, but here's a bunch:
https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1Tcwrqo0yDVgtFIxqLCwsLA0TEqxNLA0NUgzMDS3MqgwSTS1MDFONEw1NDQxSU7z4i0rzUlOzFMoLkksKU0FACeSElE&q=vulcan+statue&oq=Vulcan+sta&aqs=chrome.1.0i355j46i175i199j0i433j69i57j0l2j0i395l4.8294j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

dow, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

Can I just say:

I am a mere chapter or so away from finishing Two Towers

It has been notable for me to see how rich the character of Faramir is, how much depth he was given in the book vs the short shrift he gets in the movie

Also I love the scene in the book where Faramir warns Frodo that the path they’re taking into the mountains is bad & dangerous & that Gollum seems to him to be capable of murder: and Frodo’s heartbreaking response, like “wtf am I supposed to do, go back? turn around? I have to follow him.”

The whole trek to Shelob’s lair is SO tense & scary, largely because of that shadow cast by Faromir & the knowledge that Frodo knows theyre likely being led into danger & goes anyway :(

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link

Is this your first read or just fresh?

Faramir is a great character for his fairly small role

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link

Book Four might be my favourite. All of those wild landscapes, deep in enemy-occupied territory. A basic overarching problem to solve (how to get into Mordor), as backdrop to the complexity introduced by Gollum. It's so good.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link

Seconding those landscapes, and what a flow -- the hard edges of the Emyn Muil, the rotten growth of the Dead Marshes, the blasted landscape before the Black Gate, the ruined beauty of Ithilien, the slow transition into the desolation of Morgul Vale and all that entails. All of it described just so.

My entry into the Tolkien Fandom oral histories at Marquette recently went live:

https://cdm16280.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16280coll11/id/509/rec/1

And I was reminded about how my focus was indeed those landscapes and the grounding. I need to make that the focus of a future episode.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link

xpost i had only read hobbit many times & fellowship once like 10 years ago, i dont think i havs ever made it through the whole trilogy

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:56 (three years ago) link

Oh wow

Thread is now hallowed ground so

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link

My childhood copies were the 1977 Ballantines with Tolkien’s art on the covers. I’m overdue for a reread and it seems critically important for me to get that edition now. Then again, I’ve never read the 50th anniversary cleanup text and I probably should.

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link

the cleanup text is where they cut bombadil entirely

mark s, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:45 (three years ago) link

Looking fwd to my 50th anniversary cleanup text, ive taken the liberty of preparing extensive notes of suggested excisions, ive mentioned the main one a few times on other threads iirc

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:47 (three years ago) link

cleanup ilx: no mark s

mark s, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:54 (three years ago) link

If you removed all the nomarks......

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:58 (three years ago) link

Excited for VG. Let us know how it's going.

Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:41 (three years ago) link

Why deems this is EXACTLY what you want to do, right now, at this historical moment in the world, I know.

For the first time in IMAX, experience the magic of Middle-Earth. The Lord of the Rings trilogy is making its debut on the BIG screen. Remastered by Peter Jackson in stunning 4K, experience the epic in IMAX theatres Feb 5. Reserve your seat: https://t.co/LBzdw8tML0 pic.twitter.com/Q9wexUkRAx

— IMAX (@IMAX) February 3, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

https://t.co/UaxLXY3Uq3 pic.twitter.com/x1X3XZU0XL

— karen han (@karenyhan) February 3, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

lol the replies on that are great too

me reuniting with my homies who died watching lotr pic.twitter.com/0Yqqnt7g3R

— tc (@chillmage) February 3, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

I'm not clear about the "first time in IMAX" claim. What was I watching the first time around when I saw the trilogy at an IMAX?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

it is a mystery

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link

It's the remastering in 4K being referred to (the Hobbit films were filmed directly in 4K, by comparison).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

Wasnt godwin a minor elf

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

No wtf, darwin its the darwin award

Can we go back

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

I’ve been finding this map very helpful in locating myself in the books: http://lotrproject.com/map

whoa that is cool af

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2021 04:33 (three years ago) link

also I finished Two Towers :D
On to Return of the King, and finally joining the Appendices (Nerd) Club™️

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2021 04:35 (three years ago) link

Welcome welcome

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 February 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link

I was just playing around with that map site earlier today.

The Emyn Muil always really intrigued me. I think that's where I'd set up my hermit hut.

jmm, Thursday, 4 February 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link

"R. Baranduin (Brandywine)"

^^ encapsulates so much about Tolkien's sensibilities

jmm, Thursday, 4 February 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link

Gimli waxing poetic for a page and a half about the beauty of the caverns at Hem’s Deep. *chef’s kiss*

Theoden is the Puddleglum of LOTR. On the heels of victory at Helm’s Deep and on finding that his losses on the plain of battle were fewer than he had imagined AND that Edoras was defended, he still has time to mope “Well, I probably won’t get to enjoy it long. Prolly gonna die soon.”

lmao true

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2021 06:35 (three years ago) link

meanwhile this is so stupid i love it

MY FRIEND JUST SEND ME THIS WTF HAHAHA pic.twitter.com/GoamRyL2tV

— Kayjii (@kayjii) February 2, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2021 06:37 (three years ago) link

Very stupid, but I am loling.

Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Thursday, 4 February 2021 13:00 (three years ago) link

upper-level arda map-nerd lore

1: https://i.imgur.com/LqFv5.jpg

2: https://www.theonering.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/first_age_of_arda.gif

mark s, Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

lol sorry the first jpg is made of pure neutronium apparently

mark s, Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link

that top map certainly looks a lot like europe, asia, and the middle east

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:27 (three years ago) link

Bottom map not v like africa/gulf

cpt otm (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

?

cpt otm (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

Never got too far into maplore, wary of finding out that it was all v literal to real world ppl/places which imo starts to spoil things

cpt otm (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

yeah in the bottom map, middle earth etc. don't look as much like eurasia, but harad and co. look a lot like africa and the middle east

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

First map was the Iron Crown role-playing map, second is the god Fonstad working off Tolkien’s sketch.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

Im feeling free to disregard irl geography anyways numenoreans are the irish this is canon

cpt otm (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

big if true (and mostly looking bad for the irish) (deems is aragorn, he's fine)

wasn't tolk imagining arda as our own earth in its infancy? (an early title for the silmarillion was LOL FVCK GONDWANALAND)

mark s, Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link


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