Our last show for the day, Mindy Kaling’s teen dramedy Never Have I Ever, does the Netflix trick of keeping most of the trappings of the traditional network sitcom but also introducing PG-13 sensibilities and radically expanded cultural, racial and gender diversity. Also John McEnroe.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/v8EbFim.jpg#50 - Never Have I Ever (Netflix) - 26 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 voteNever have I ever
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just remembered the part of tiger king where the filmmaker let the park employees know that the jetski guy was an fbi informant lol
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
And here's today's updated wrap up.
#50 - Never Have I Ever (Netflix) - 26 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#51 - Tiger King (Netflix) - 25 points, 6 votes#52 (Tie) - Fargo (FX) - 25 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vot#52 (Tie) - Ghosts (BBC1, HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#54 - Strictly Come Dancing (BBC) - 25 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#55 (Tie) - Beef House (Adult Swim) - 23 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#55 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 23 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#57 - A House Through Time (BBC2) - 23 points, 3 votes, 2 top 5 votes#58 - The Repair Shop (BBC, Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#59 - GeoWizard Missions (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes, 2 top 5 votes#60 (Tie) - Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#60 (Tie) - Murder on Middle Beach (HBO) - 20 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#62 (Tie) - High Fidelity (Hulu) - 19 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#62 (Tie) - Ozark (Netflix) - 19 points, 4 votes, 1 top 5 vote#64 - Mythic Quest: Raven’s Banquet (Apple +) - 18 points, 5 votes#65 (Tie) - AEW Dynamite (TBS) - 18 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote#65 (Tie) - The Plot Against America (HBO) - 18 points, 3 votes#67 - The Good Lord Bird (HBO) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#68 - Star Trek: Picard (CBS All Access) - 18 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#69 - Dave (FX) - 16 points, 3 votes, 1 top 5 vote#70 - 20020 (SB Nation) - 16 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#71 - Bob’s Burgers (FX) - 15 points, 3 votes#72 (Tie) - Oxventure Dungeons and Dragons! (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Seduced: Inside the NXIVM Cult (Starz) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Taskmaster (Channel 4) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Teenage Bounty Hunters (Netflix) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#72 (Tie) - Videogame Dunkey (YouTube) - 15 points, 2 votes, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - Bluey (Disney +) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - Followers (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - The Umbrella Academy (Netflix) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote#77 (Tie) - We Are Who We Are (HBO) - 15 points, 1 vote, 1 #1 vote, 1 top 5 vote
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
never have i ever was cute
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
Neat results so far, lots of stuff I've never heard of. GeoWizard Missions and A House Through Time have particularly piqued my interest
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link
Never Have I Ever WAS cute! Aaah Mindy is the best. The series really picked up in the last few episodes.
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
Never Have I Ever was my #1 vote. Idk why Netflix labels it comedy-drama instead of sitcom, since all scenes are played for the lols. Maybe because the writing is excellent and it's smart and poignant throughout?
― braised cod, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
there are definite dramatic undertones, what with her dead father and her strained relationship with her mother and best friends. tho i agre, it's no more a drama than scrubs was.
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link
Kipo too low! Was my #6 so almost two top 5 votes.One of the shows I watch with my 10 year old. Beautifully animated, a joy to watch and hard not to get caught up in Kipo's boundless optimism whilst still going to some dark places this season. Great finale too and deserves to become a modern day classic of animation.― groovypanda, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:43 AM bookmarkflaglinkneat, always keen for good animation, will check out― imago, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:44 AM bookmarkflaglink
One of the shows I watch with my 10 year old. Beautifully animated, a joy to watch and hard not to get caught up in Kipo's boundless optimism whilst still going to some dark places this season. Great finale too and deserves to become a modern day classic of animation.
― groovypanda, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:43 AM bookmarkflaglink
neat, always keen for good animation, will check out
― imago, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:44 AM bookmarkflaglink
groovypanda OTM, it's a beacon of light and hope. I will say that the animation in the last season was a lot worse than the first season -- I assume the studio had to crunch to finish the series.
― Mike Mignola Electric Co. (Leee), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
Beef House my first vote to place, I think I heard about this on ILX, it aspires to be absolutely nothing other than what it is but it is about as well-made an example of the thing that it is as you can imagine
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link
have not thought about it between the time i finished watching it and today, and never will again
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
I mean 'note-perfect fake sitcom with bizarre & OTT digressions' is a thing T&E do very well, but they'd already done it several times over before Beef House and it works better in bite-sized chunks IMO (imagine how much impact would be lost if Too Many Cooks had been turned into a series, as a non-T&E example).
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
But yeah, it was funny and fine for what it was but disappointing only inasmuch as it seemed like a step backwards rather than a broadening of the palette.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link
Oh I've never really watched anything by them before so I have no sense of this
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link
Ha ha, oh wow. I can't imagine this being my first exposure to their work. Well, you're in for a treat if you choose to dig deeper. Expect things to get real weird.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link
I cant work out why I didnt vote for Bobs Burgers, I watch it all the time.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 00:57 (three years ago) link
I haven't even heard of more than a half dozen of these shows, am definitely out of it
― Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link
I can understand not getting into Bob's Burgers because it's very silly and low-stakes. But it's maintained its quality amazingly well eleven seasons in.
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link
Yeah its one of those comfort shows you watch with a hangover/eating tea. Like old Simpsons.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link
Fargo was good in the first few seasons. I will watch this season too but I haven't heard as many great things about it
― Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link
btw if you liked this show I strongly recommend Mercier as a kid from Israel who wants to become Parisian in Synonyms, where he does some outrageously good acting. Tons of full frontal nudity from him too if that's your thing.― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, February 8, 2021
I really liked the film and him in it, it was hard to believe it was his first acting experience
same here. it took me multiple episodes to place him! he's gonna have a hell of a career.
I watched the first episode of the Chris Rock Fargo and bailed; discussion on the thread mostly suggests I did it right. The actors are so great though!
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
Fargo S2 > S1 >> S3 >>>>>> S4 (we bailed after 2 episodes)
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
The problem I think with S4 of Fargo is Hawley had been doing Legion for so long it leaked out into the production. There were loads of gloomy dark shots with green tinges, shots down hallways, weird ghosts for no reason, oftn painfully slow pacing.
And Jason Schwartzman I feel was badly miscast.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
There is one really good ep that riffs off Wizard of Oz that I did really like.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link
The Mindy Project has been a comfort show over the last few years so I will check out Never Have I Ever
― Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
Just watched one of the Geowizard Missions video series - great stuff! Youtube had recommended me his geoguesser videos but the Missions one are way more up my alley
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link
We watched a couple of episodes of Bluey last night because of this thread. It was great. We laughed a lot.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 10:59 (three years ago) link
in my head beef house and sex house are the same show even though I watched both and know they have nothing in common
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
Sex House definitely superior. I still try to push that on everyone I can (the name sometimes makes it hard sell).
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link
i goddamn loved the OZ episode of Fargo, and i didn't mind the aesthetics (appreciated the old gangster photos). i thought Schwartzman and the nurse were perfect, but didn't really dig Rock; overall it was decent. made it onto my ballot, but it might be the worsts of the 4 seasons. 2>>>3>>1>4
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link
We're in the same place: that's my ranking too, but I also voted for 4. (Actually, the further away I get from 1 and 3, I might rank everything except 2 more or less the same. The second season dwarfs the other three.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
Haven't watched the fourth season (and nothing I've heard has me champing at the bit to rectify that) but otherwise that's my ranking, too.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
Have never seen Fargo. Based on the love here for season 2 can I skip right to that or do I need to see season 1 for character depth or something? Or is it total anthology
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
you can definitely watch it on its own
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
there are connections between seasons 1 and 2 (and probably 2 & 4, tho i haven't seen 4 so i can't say what those are), but they're not essential to understanding and enjoying s2
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link
The connections between the seasons (and the movie itself) are so incredibly tenuous as to be virtually nonexistent imo. It's essentially an anthology series of season-long stories.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
If you're a Coen brothers fan there's often some easter eggs in them which are nice to spot, but you’ll not lose anything by not having that awareness.
I'd rate 2>1>3=4, the Wizard of Oz episode bumped it up for me, absolutely gorgeous black and white cinematography. I wished they'd done the whole series in black and white.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
might even be fun, if you're going to commit to the entire series, to watch by time period. so i think it would go: s4, s2, movie, s1, s3.
but if you just want to watch the best one, s2 is amazing... and s3 i think it pretty underrated and worth checking out.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
i think season two had a song and a quote from a Cohen bros movie in every episode.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
Great, I will definitely watch s2 and then if so inclined will proceed into the others.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link
fargo sucks and noah hawley is a hack
sorry I have to say this once per thread whenever that show is invoked
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
i've seen you repeat that a bunch, but to not belabor the point, why you feel that way?
you can point me to a thread if you don't want to spend too much time on it
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
to put it as succinctly as I can, hawley seems to "get" the coens about as well as twin peaks' other principal writers "got" lynch when he wasn't around to consult
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
TBF, I've never gotten the impression that Hawley was trying to 'do' the Coens.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link
I mean, he also made Legion, so whatever he is, it's not a hack.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link
Sex House definitely superior. I still try to push that on everyone I can (the name sometimes makes it hard sell).― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:44 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:44 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Sex House is one of the top shows of the last decade and I don't understand why it's not universally recognized as a landmark of television
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link
you've ruined me!
― imago, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
Simon otm re: Hawley and Fargo
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link