Always on my mind:
The Dream of the Red Chamber (or A Dream of Red Mansions or The Story of the Stone)UlyssesI Claudius/Claudius the GodInvisible ManMiddlemarchA Tale of a TubGulliver's TravelsNadja
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 13:42 (three years ago) link
The Man Who Loved Children - Christina SteadA View of the Harbour - Elizabeth Taylor
Come sit beside me.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 February 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link
good standard
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
xps to NV I was thinking of reading Story of the Stone! Should I?
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link
your writing has kind of a Swift-y vibe, NV
― horseshoe, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link
Can I recommend a great little novel? Vivek Shanbhag’s Ghachar Ghochar is a perfect one...it rewards an immediate second read and is v short so that’s doable.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
gyac - I'd say yes, definitely. nb it's looong and I read the modern Penguin translation, the older public domain translations I've seen add layers of florid English to the difficulty. It's a really moving family epic of loss and transience with extra Buddhism and magic sprinkled into the mix, and it's a really absorbing world.
horseshoe aw shucks thank you I admit I shamelessly steal Swift's rhetorical moves all the time, he still makes me laugh and he invented that kind of dry sometimes meanness that I fall well short of but can't help aping
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link
Also I'm bookmarking Ghachar Ghochar
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link
Also I love the horrified recognition in Swift's long books or "novels" when he realises he's ultimately satirising himself
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
In Search of Lost TimeThe Brothers KaramazovMiddlemarchThe Hobbit and The Lord of the RingsJeeves novelsPride & PrejudiceThe Book of the New SunLe Grand MeaulnesWashington SquareMoby-Dick
I said Ulysses earlier itt, but feel like I was fooling myself in retrospect. I need to give it a lot more time at least.
― jmm, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link
Hooray!
Yes I always think of myself of disliking 18th century lit, but I forget Swift; he is great!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link
off the top of my head
catch-22lord of the ringscat's cradlecoming through slaughtermaster & margaritaragtimesiddhartha
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
A Dance to the Music of Time - PowellAusterlitz - SebaldHangover Square - HamiltonThe Trial - KafkaMoby-Dick - MelvilleMiddlemarch - EliotHav - MorrisThe Hound of the Baskervilles - Conan-DoyleFive Red Herrings - SayersJude the Obscure - HardyThe Good Soldier Švejk - Hašek
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
Books I keep coming back to:
Conrad, Heart of DarknessFitzgerald, The Great GatsbyMcCarthy, Blood MeridianWharton, The House of MirthChandler, The Long GoodbyeJohn Dos Passos, U.S.A. trilogyDelany, DhalgrenGibson, Blue Ant trilogy (Pattern Recognition/Spook Country/Zero History)Hammett, Red Harvest and The Dain Curse
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
I love a lot of 18th century prose: Henry Fielding, Lawrence Sterne, Gibbon. Jane Austen feels closer to 18th than 19th for me, English in that era feels looser and more fluid and just more fun tbh
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
an easy squeezy threesy:
Kolyma Tales by Shalamov
Moby Dick
Cat's Cradle
― calzino, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link
i am trying to think but i forget a lot of books that i read. i was going to read war and peace this summer because i liked anna karenina.
― harbl, Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:16 PM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
two guesses :(
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
Austen is what happens when the 18th century FIGURES ITSELF OUT imo. I get why people like Fielding and Sterne, but they’re not for me.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link
Give me a Victorian doorstop any day. I need to read Our Mutual Friend.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
I love Our Mutual Friend but hate the ending, which is what kept it off my list.
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link
Oscar and LucindaMidnight’s ChildrenGlamoramaVanity FairKindredand my forever favouriteLolita
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
i do love a good Dickens too but i think of him as having his 18th century roots showing, especially early on, especially Fielding
19th century stuff that could've should've made my list would include
Bleak HouseWuthering HeightsMary Barton maybe?À rebours
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
love Glamorama and yeah Lolita of course
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
surprised The Trial seems the universal Kafka pick, I've always rated The Castle higher (however unfinished)
anyway this is impossible...Moby Dick and The Quixote are my two "favorite" books but almost seems like they shouldn't count, they're looming up there like a couple of stone tablets
ten (almost) pre-war:
Mary Shelley, FrankensteinJ.K. Huysmans, À reboursF.R. Wolf, Hadrian VIIFranz Kafka, The CastleVirginia Woolf, Mrs. DallowayHenry Green, Party GoingFlann O’Brien, At Swim-Two-BirdsWilla Cather, My AntoniaWitold Gombrowicz, FerdydurkeAlbert Camus, The Stranger
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
xps to NV we need to talk Glamorama sometime, maybe tomorrow?
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
NV <3 Against Nature is sublime, I don't know how many times I've read that book or just picked it up and read thirty pp in the middle
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
xp yeah!
not xp also yeah! i think about monochrome feasts a lot
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
erm that's Rolfe (Baron Corvo), above
ten post-war
Max Frisch, I'm Not StillerStanislaw Lem, SolarisNabokov, LolitaFrederick Exley, A Fan's NotesThomas Bernhard, The Lime WorksRobert Coover, Universal Baseball Association...Harry Mathews, Sinking of the Odradek StadiumMarguerite Dumas, The LoverPeter Handke, Goalie's Anxiety at The Penalty KickDon Delillo, The Names
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
A Fan's Notes is a good pick, tho i've only read it once partly because it touches too close to home and i'm thinking i might've lost my copy
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
Masters of Atlantis - Charles PortisWarlock - Oakley HallCogan's Trade - George V. Higgins Jesus' Son; Train Dreams - Denis JohnsonFat City - Leonard Gardner Housekeeping; Gilead - Marilynne RobinsonThe Third Policeman - Flann O'Brien As I Lay Dying - FaulknerMoby-Dick - Melville The Long Goodbye - Chandler
― Chris L, Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
yeah xp that can be dicey if you aren't in a good place
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
Exley evokes that state of mind and the bar-life state of mind so well
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
oh i found it phew
― Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
a real flash of brilliance and then a real booze induced fall-off...the one after this made me kinda sad
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
ten faves form the past twenty+ years
Orhan Pamuk, My Name Is RedTom McCarthy, RemainderDonald Antrim, The Hundred BrothersVladimir Makanin, The Baize Covered Table With DecanterW.G. Sebald, The Rings Of SaturnGrace Krilanovich, The Orange Eat CreepsJose Saramago, BlindnessJim Crace, Being DeadRoberto Bolaño, Distant StarEnrique Vila-Matas, Bartleby & Co.
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
Oh man! I'll just go with ones that I think have not been mentioned (but I'm not going to search on the titles to make sure, because I want to mention them anyway:I was forced to read 1984 in Ninth Grade, but immediately and all through there was a lot more vs. Cold War Adult World than Communism Does Not Pay---also in high school, Nabokov's The Defense, about dorky chess prodigy, v. relatable to to non-chess prodigy me, who also dug The Crying of Lot 49, with paranoid pleasures x the fab Mrs. Maas, which spoke to the 60s for sure, ditto though set a little earlier, V., incl. things I hoped to get up to, yo-yo-ing etc., plus more scary funky Mid-Century wreckage and piecework palaces in the twilight.in 70s-early 80s: Bramner's The Gay Place, Stone's Hall of Mirrors and Dog Soldiers (esp. struck by way women have to make their ways through these male preoccupations and stumblefests).More recently:The Way We Live NowThe Idiot2666 (was mentioned)Swann's WayMy Brilliant FriendTwo more in the Gilead sequence:Home and Lila
― dow, Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
And The Professor's House!
― dow, Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
great weird book w/ that left turn into the desert
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
Cather rules.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
that is my favorite Cather, and yes, she is great. she was sort of terrible? but her writing is beautiful.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
Hard to resist A Lost Lady too.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
*Brammer's* The Gay Place)(three stories, interlocking around a gas giant, unseen, always felt, who has been auto-compared to LBJ but I go w those who say he seems more like Earl Long, the hardest workin' playin' man in tightrope political show biz)
― dow, Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
Member of the Wedding and The Moviegoer too.
― dow, Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
xps yes Cather for me is one who has several that could make a list...same for me w/ Bernhard and Nabokov, on a given day any one of four or five novels from either might be a favorite
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
Native Son, Their Eyes Were Watching God both blew me away, in diff directions.
― dow, Thursday, 11 February 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
at a certain point mine would have been
richard powers, the gold bug variationsbruce duffy, the world as i found itmark helprin, a soldier of the great war
but the latter i read before i knew helprin was a fascist : /
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 February 2021 04:27 (three years ago) link
For sure faves:
To The LighthouseMoby-DickFrankensteinCrime & PunishmentRagtimeBlack Swan Green
Stuff I would have repped for once upon a time but not sure now/would have to revisit:
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-TimeThe Wind-Up Bird ChronicleCat's Cradle
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 12 February 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link
Five favourites that haven't been mentioned:
Samuel Beckett, MolloyPaul Bowles, The Sheltering SkyWilliam Burroughs, Naked Lunch (or Queer, or Cities of the Red Night)Thomas McGuane, The Bushwhacked PianoHubert Selby, The Room
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 February 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link
I think The Room is the only Selby novel I've never read. I love The Demon.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link
The Demon starts off great, at a lower pitch of intensity than most of his work, but when the Pope comes into it it goes overboard for me. Selby doesn't have the wider range, but his focus is very sharp. There's more to him than just Last Exit to Brooklyn.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link