Justice League (DC 2017 film)

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note that the joker scene is from dream sequence #1 in BvS meaning it will have no impact on anything else in the movie

OK since now there's apparently a black-and-white version of Zack Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE here's a thread detailing the extremely weird changes to this extremely weird movie, with all the weird twists and contradictions along the way. This thread might be updated over time. https://t.co/4BYpLRjbk5

— Will Ross, Gerbil Father (@SadHillWill) November 17, 2020

this thread has been updated over time

note that the joker scene is from dream sequence #1 in BvS meaning it will have no impact on anything else in the movie

― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, February 15, 2021 2:01 PM (thirty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i like it already

I gotta be honest the "lol Snyder's process is nuts / he can't make up his mind" thing isn't all that funny or even weird when you remember he exited post-production when his daughter committed suicide

if he's too unstable to stick to a decision about the actual format of the film from week to week, maybe it's not a great idea to give him $70 million just to edit and reformat his film

especially when the streaming service which you're paying him to make it for has already flopped so hard that you've fired many senior executives at, nearly half the editorial staff of, the entire marketing department of multiple decades' experience in, and completely shut down the dedicated streaming service of, the division of the company that manages the IP that Snyder is polishing

and completely shut down the dedicated streaming service of, the division of the company that manages the IP that Snyder is polishing

What is this one?

cannot bring myself to care about aspect ratios but god bless you

I don't care about the content or form of this film at all, just the ways in which it functions as one node of a malign destructive influence on the consumer / art relationship in toto

What is this one?

DC Universe

I agree and yet remain curious to see it.

I think perhaps I'm more sympathetic to Snyder's humourlessness because the last year has made me more humourless.

Given his family tragedy, and the fact that he lost (or "lost") his film to one of 2021's most hated assholes, I guess I have warmed to him a bit

If it looks okay on fast forward I'll be happy

Don't make me think about Watchmen though

at one point i might champion him for going full Snyder.

The amount of time and effort and money that's been spent on this halfwitted farrago of bullshit.

The big ol' story today

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/02/the-true-story-of-justice-league-snyder-cut

Personally I come away with it thinking that Snyder -- in line with some other comments I've heard -- is indeed by all accounts a very decent fellow who absolutely adores his family and who along with his wife was understandably crushed at his daughter's passing. And, completely separately from that, has some absolutely 'the fuck?' storytelling choices.

I had never seen a photo of Snyder before, that is not what I expected him to look like. (Bill Simmons meets Seth McFarlane tbh)

I feel for him, as he's definitely been through some terrible shit. And it's nice to hear that he's apparently a genuinely good guy. I just wish that he was, y'know, like a doctor or a car salesman or an alderman rather than the guy making these movies.

is indeed by all accounts a very decent fellow

Unfortunate that his own public statements tend to depict him as an aggressive, arrogant, bullying oaf with little comprehension of art or of opinions differing from his own. I'll read this story though.

^^^^

I mean all of those things can be true

I made it halfway through and got bored of his quotes about how brilliant he is, and how lame-ass losers who don't think he is always get shown up

Seriously. Most profiles are press releases, at least in part, but that read like it was written and edited by Snyder himself.

I think my favorite part is the thing where everyone has sheltered him from the Whedon cut because it was such a betrayal of Snyder's visionary genius.

Has he worked with the Sons of Anarchy guy? They seem like a match made in heaven.

the whedon cut does sound v dumb and bad.

the snyder cut will also be dumb and bad but maybe not as much?

maybe one day we can have the snyder uncut, 8 hours of justice league

Four hours long means dumb and bad. There has not been one of these superhero movies yet that could have used another hour.

'Anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion' pic.twitter.com/wCrdey9Evg

— iucounu (@iucounu) February 26, 2021

IMDB says Snyder is doing a Fountainhead movie

That’s years old, afaimomnrc

I love how the two types of superhero movie are "feels like grey slush" and "looks like grey slush"

https://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/legacy/ckeditor_assets/pictures/10059/original/diabolik2.jpg

current ones I mean, no offense intended mr diabolik

the Peyton Reeds are characteristically bright, Spider-Verse is a million colours, Ragnarok was mostly well-lit and colourful, Incredibles 2 was just two years ago, Fast Color has a clue in the title, haven't seen the Sharkboy & Lava Girl sequel that just came out but Rodriguez' kids movies are usually shiny. Only seen trailers for the Spidey: Home movies but they seem clear and colourful, might well feel like slush though. Lego Batman and Teen Titans Go! are each hella colours and fun as heck.

There are way more grey sludge movies, but other options are available. Snyder's new zombie movie is probably grey too.

the MCU movies are the ones that feel rather than look like grey slush, just to be 1000% clear

i like the grey sludge of bvs. movie looks like it's decaying from within

a nu-metal movie 15 years too late

as a fan of nu-metal horror you know what i'm talking about

though by and large nu-metal horror was pretty colorful. platinum dunes horror remakes of the late '00s are probably closer to bvs' color palette

this is an aside but was bride of chucky nu-metal horror

yes!!!!!

potentially the ur-text

Bride of Chucky was "A.D.I.D.A.S."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFibI_1ZPV4

OK, so I have a modest familiarity with the Marvel stuff, but only a passing familiarity with the DC stuff. That is, I've seen the first four or five Superman movies, both Wonder Woman movies, the Burton and Nolan Batmans. I've read the major Batman graphic novels, and while I've never otherwise read any DC comics outside of some hardcover book of first issues my dad had, I did watch the Justice League cartoon on occasion as a little kid, and I know who Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Aquaman and Flash are. I've not seen any of the Snyder films, nor have I wanted to, but I have followed this train wreck and in particular the Ray Fisher saga, and can I just confess: I have literally never heard of Cyborg (the character) before these films.

Cyborg wasn't created by Snyder, but god forbid any of these franchises actually dare to invent something new

JIC, he’s been around for 41 years and was the reason why Teen Titans was the only DC book I halfway paid attention to when I was a kid: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg_(DC_Comics)

The Teen Titans comic was super-popular in the '80s, and the cartoon seems to have been pretty popular in the 2000s, but yeah, DC hasn't done a whole lot to popularize the individual characters with general audiences. I guess the Marvel equivalent is like Nightcrawler or Colossus. Yeah, they've shown up in movies and stuff but yr average person on the street probably isn't going to be familiar with them on the level of a Wolverine.

cyborg definitely initially benefited from coming out of wolfman/perez's megahit; i think not much was done with him after as white DC writers weren't quite sure what to do with a black supergenius post-human character that didn't involve him yelling CHRISTMAS and busting drug dealers
i'm kinda surprised you're not familiar with him via the Teen Titans cartoon though; that's been around and extremely popular on the web and irl for years, which is also why your average 15 year old might know who Raven is.

The Teen Titans Go! lineup is basically all of the Titans I actually have a shit about, maybe swapping out Robin with Wonder Girl