I don't disagree with risks taken in the past, but I think the dynamics and the current gun situation in America changes the equation of the risks considerably.
can I just drop the entire history of Black people in America here
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link
Some massive gun nutter site just got hacked and all the user info shared online. It’s not abortion clinic-level confrontation, but it’s certainly safer.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
Four dead, including child, in Orange County mass shooting incident.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-four-dead-including-child-in-orange-county-mass-shooting-incident/ar-BB1fbwRZ
"Orange Police said this is the first mass shooting there since 1997."
― nickn, Thursday, 1 April 2021 05:57 (three years ago) link
Fuck
Horrific story out of South Carolina. A source close to the investigation says former NFL player Phillip Adams killed five people including doctor Dr. Robert Lesslie & his wife Barbara and his grandchildren Adah, age 9 & Noah, age 5. #FOX35 @fox35orlando https://t.co/uFP2lDDezI— Amy Kaufeldt FOX 35 (@Fox35Amy) April 8, 2021
― groovypanda, Thursday, 8 April 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
jfc
I feel completely hopeless that America is ever going to tackle this, we all are being forced to live with the reality that being shot is an acceptable* price for living in America in 2021.
* - and of course it's not fucking acceptable, but whatever. I'm furious about how easily and quickly we've shifted back to this being just a normal part of daily life.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
horrifying.
and overlapping with another ongoing american mess (football)
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 April 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link
well the way to stop gun violence is for everybody to have guns and then there will be no more gun violence.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 April 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link
I know things were trending in this direction anyway but the timing of "enough, here are executive orders to manage gun violence" hot off the backs of two shooting incidents where the shooter was Black has some very unfortunate echoes with the way this country has conducted itself in the past
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 8 April 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
This probably has something to do with it too
Gun ownership among Black Americans is soaring https://t.co/eb8ULoz4Ag pic.twitter.com/OyFTYLMXrK— The Hill (@thehill) April 5, 2021
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 April 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
JFC... busy day in America:
Several people injured in shooting in Bryan, Texas, police sayhttps://www.cnn.com/2021/04/08/us/bryan-texas-shooting/index.html
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link
Industrial-park shootings are some of the saddest. Imagine going to work in those nondescript places for years and then...
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link
it's a meme. when people feel like they're at their wit's end, this is an idea that feels available to them.
― treeship., Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
of all the things about america that make me want to leave, these killings are one of the biggest. and it's not just about gun violence. there is something cultural about this. it's like a sick form of expression to these people.
― treeship., Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
gun laws i mean -- it's not just about gun laws, or mental illness for that matter. it's a social pathology.
― treeship., Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
Workplace shootings seem to be the most anonymous and most quickly forgotten these days as well. Maybe back in the 80s ("going postal") they were still searing and commanded big media attention, but now they're so, so common.
School and box store shootings still manage to stir up some collective grief and a desire for a 'national conversation' that lasts a day or two, but these these are forgotten so quickly - except for the family, friends, and coworkers left behind.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link
exactly. it's just ambient death we accept in the background, like drone strikes or car crashes.
― treeship., Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
BREAKING: Knoxville, Tennessee, Police: "Multiple gunshot victims reported, including a KPD officer" at Austin-East Magnet High School."The investigation remains active at this time. Please avoid the area." https://t.co/5uPfjfRYJk— NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (@NBCNightlyNews) April 12, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 April 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
Yeah, my work partner is out covering that school shooting now. Not an actual spree shooting but terrible anyway. A school security officer approached a kid who he'd been told was carrying a gun. The kid pulled out the gun and shot the officer (who's an actual Knoxville cop, not a school employee), and the officer shot the kid in return. The kid died, the officer is in the hospital but seems like he'll live. It's the latest in a series of shootings of students of that school since January, although none of the others have actually happened at school.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 April 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link
fucks sake. this is insane. one school!
https://eu.knoxnews.com/story/news/education/2021/02/18/austin-east-community-violence-knoxvilles-not-ours/6782730002/
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 00:02 (three years ago) link
a well regulated militia
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link
Things you cannot actually make up: the shooting caused the Tennessee House of Representatives to delay its vote planned for today on a resolution declaring us a Second Amendment Sanctuary State. Even they realized it might look a little tacky. But just for a week.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 04:11 (three years ago) link
Being governed by these assholes is exactly why I can never muster the outrage at neolib-centrist Democrats I'm supposed to. Neolib centrists would be a fucking godsend.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link
BREAKING: Four dead, 7 injured in mass shooting at FedEx facility in Indianapolis, police source says. It never ends. And not a damn thing will be done about these endless mass shootings.— Spiro Agnew’s Ghost (@SpiroAgnewGhost) April 16, 2021
― groovypanda, Friday, 16 April 2021 06:40 (three years ago) link
8 dead.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56770200
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 16 April 2021 10:31 (three years ago) link
we are just so fucked in this country when it comes to guns
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link
good guy with a gun gets killed himself in this one too
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:03 (three years ago) link
the good guys with guns need better guns iirc
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link
‘No way to prevent this, etc.’
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link
I hear more libs are buying firearms these days, so it’s only a matter of time before the issue solves itself through sheer cosmic balance.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link
we buy love guns
― P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:08 (three years ago) link
Sigh. It just feels so goddamn hopeless.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link
Goddamn
It's quite intense to visit the paper of record online and discover that THERE WAS YET ANOTHER FRICKIN' ARMED SLAUGHTER that you had no idea about until that moment
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
"See a partial list of shootings with multiple victims in 2021."
Because these are so fucking commonplace that listing them all would be too much.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:44 (three years ago) link
yeah, this line in the CNN article kind of illustrates the severity of the problem unintentionally:
Police were called to the facility at about 11 p.m. local time for what has become the country's deadliest shooting since 10 people were killed March 22 at a grocery in Colorado.
― P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link
Oooof
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link
I’m not sure that was unintentional after watching CNN’s morning coverage
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link
yeah first thing my wife said to me in the morning was "there was a shooting in Indiana" and I was racking my brain trying to think if she had just heard about one of the recent ones
― frogbs, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
i guess one benefit of working from home is less risk of getting shot at place of employment. we had a legit threat at one of our offices years ago, and my office was the type that you wouldn't easily escape from in those situations.
i think we had a lockdown once for a few hours due to a gunman in the area but it never panned out.
― P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
we had a very disturbed guy in my office who more than once made specific angry threats about how he was going to do it, who he was going to go after, what he was going to use, etc. he lived around the corner from the office and had tons of guns at his house, once got caught with a huge hunting knife hidden in his desk. management never did anything but the fbi caught up with him eventually and he wound up behind bars for outside-the-workplace stuff. it was an exciting couple years in the office though, showing up to work every day thinking "is today the day he decides to do it?"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link
jeezus yall
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
wtaf?
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
'Murica.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
yeah we fired a guy a while ago who apparently wound up having a hit list in his desk. I know a few people were legitimately disturbed by it, like "how did I wind up on that, I barely talked to the guy" but mostly it was treated like kind of a joke. in retrospect...gorsh
― frogbs, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
sorry if i got too dark. its just every time one of these happens i always think about my office and if it had happened there, how it would have been described with the same banal boilerplate phrases in every one of these stories: "searching for a motive", "believed to be an employee", etc.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link
I worked with a guy who left a job a month before one of his coworkers shot the place up; I feel in some ways at this point in our stupid history it's strange to NOT know someone who has experienced this (including yourself).
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
I've worked with multiple angry dudes who kept assault rifles in the trunks of their cars. Really don't miss sharing an office with psychotic gun nuts.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
Yeah I had a similar experience at my first job. Nutty firmware guy claimed he had guns in his car. Ended up getting fired after he told me he was erasing all his code because he was mad about something. We had cops guarding the building for a few months.
― DJI, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
would be a neat trick to successfully erase all one's code in any contemporary dev shop
― Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link
Looks as though that Knoxville shooting was actually the cop shooting himself and then killing the kid. They are refusing to release body cam footage.
― JoeStork, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
Was just reading an article about that, though still not sure I understand the timeline. The working theory being the cop shot himself first (to provide cover or a "reason" for what happened next?) then shot the kid?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link