Noooo that's so dumb!I haven't bought headphones/earbuds in ages, why are they doing this
― kinder, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
When I park at the supermarket I switch from listening on the car stereo via bluetooth to listening on headphones, and every time my phone helpfully pauses whatever it is I'm listening to, so I have to find the app to unpause, doesn't seem to be any way to turn off this "feature"
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
never switching from a phone with an audio jack and wired headphones if i can help it.
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
I like the pause-on-removal feature on my new earphones. On top of being convenient: When one of them falls out of my ear in the middle of running across a busy street; I don't miss any of my podcast!
I will say that I was a firm anti-wireless crank when Apple first got rid of the jack, but after finally taking the plunge and coughing up for some good Bluetooth cans, I don't think I could ever go back to having a wire connecting my phone to my head or ear phones. Especially for exercise.
― beard papa, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
Shouldn't be wearing earphones when crossing a busy street.
― pplains, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
I hate catching the wire on things but the inability to plug my phone into a speaker, the many annoyances of Bluetooth, the lack of direct control over audio and tge fact that I would immediately lose any small items without a wire all weigh against switching.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link
My recent problem stems from having to tether an iPhone to my desktop at work so I can be on camera during virtual meetings. I can hear everyone just fine with my headphones plugged into the desktop, but I can't hear myself whenever I speak out loud. (I mean, I can, but it's just the sound of my voice IRL. I can't hear myself through the headphones.)
THE SOLUTION on ANY OTHER PHONE would be to plug the headphones into the phone itself, instead of the desktop, but NO CAN DO since I'm on a newer iPhone.
― pplains, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link
i have an older samsung galaxy with android; it has 16 GB of internal memory
for like $12 i've added a 32 GB SD card (which has 31 GB free)
but the phone -- which i have very little stuff on -- is constantly running out of space because most apps refuse to be moved to the SD card and I CANNOT FUCKING DELETE ALL THE PRE-LOADED SHIT LIKE AMAZON/YOUTUBE/FACEBOOK/GOOGLE without rooting the phone, which i haven't been able to do after multiple and ever-sketchier attempts. (if i try to delete them, i'm asked 'revert to factory version?')
i mean 25 years ago microsoft was sued because it bundled internet explorer with windows, but i don't think users were literally prevented from deleting it?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link
Yep i spent a year or two stubbornly whittling at all extraneous disk hoggers but android essentially made it impossible to shift a raft of protected apps AND THE ASSOCIATED CONTENT over to SD a few years back and tbh 32gb isnt even a practical internal disk size anymore unless you want to be spending maintenance time each month
Absolutely sucks.
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link
xp Wonder if you can put LineageOS or something on that phone. The big difference between your PC and your phone, as computers, is you don't have adminiatrator rights on the phone, without a bit of underhandedness. It is wild.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link
i've been vaguely watching the pinephone experiment
kind of seems like someone could make money offering a bare-bones OS but i obviously dk
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
Feeling mookie's pain, though in a way, I do enjoy deleting cache out of dozen or so apps whenever I'm waiting around somewhere.
Hate that Facebook is on there and can't be removed. I've disabled it, restricted it, tied it up, thrown it in the back of the phone and yet, it still registers like 28kb of activity a month. I know it's following me around. I've never linked the app to my Facebook account. The instagram account isn't connected to my facebook account. My gmail login for Facebook is on the phone, so it's probably figured out what I had for dinner tonight.
― pplains, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link
oh i clear the fuck out of cache
but also why should i have to do that
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
and tbh 32gb isnt even a practical internal disk size anymore unless you want to be spending maintenance time each month
what do you even keep on your phones that take up so much space? good lord I have 16GB and I only have to do maintenance like once every 4-6 months? If I have to take a bunch of pictures for work I transfer them and then delete them ... and I'm the person that keeps every text message except for like spam.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 07:11 (three years ago) link
I have a little app on my phone called AppMgr which easily transfers apps from internal storage to SD card. Might be worth a look in your case, although it will of course only transfer those apps which are able to be transferred.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 07:56 (three years ago) link
mookie I was in the exact same position with the memory card etc and it is really annoying. I ended up dropping and destroying my phone and having to get a new one (not the latest model obv) and I hate how I'm almost glad I had a reason to as everything works much better on the new phone. It was the apps clogging up my old phone and it's not like I even use that many.
― kinder, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 08:33 (three years ago) link
what do you even keep on your phones that take up so much space?
most of my basic apps fill up the cache with hundreds of megabytes of data, some of the worst offenders (twitter, chrome, instagram) also somehow store hundreds of megabytes of personal data and if you clear it you get logged out and lose all your saved settings.
― Computers I can live with, I even dried them in the oven (ledge), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 09:33 (three years ago) link
Spotify regularly takes up 1GB of space on my son's phone, it's insane
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:29 (three years ago) link
Yep if you download eg spotify playlists to phone that will add up
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:37 (three years ago) link
he does no downloading! it makes no sense!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:37 (three years ago) link
My phone storage
20gb system
20gb apps- mainly podcasts and music in case of offline
I could farm a lot of that latter out to sd card but tbh i like not having to bother anymore
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:41 (three years ago) link
xp spotify is for my purposes a wonderful thing but i swear as an app it behaves terrifically badly ito commandeering storage and eg just not responding when you open it for the first time in a while because its decided it has shit it would rather do
Luckily i mainly just have it installed on speakers and never actually open it on the phone these days
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:43 (three years ago) link
instagram: application 110mb, data 158mb, cache 109mb. guardian app 66mb, data 72mb, cache 69mb. youtube app 179mb, data 82mb, cache 77mb. chrome app 124mb, data 268mb (!!), cache 184mb.
app sizes seem excessive, wish you could restrict the caching somehow, but the 'data' is ridiculous.
― Computers I can live with, I even dried them in the oven (ledge), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:48 (three years ago) link
Android successive versions have taken a lot of control away from the user across all of this but as noted there are apps that do an ok job of cleaning selectively
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link
Just cleared 8gb of podcasts to sd card so ty thread
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 11:24 (three years ago) link
my phone provider recently upgraded me to an L4 that has 64gb. I will have barely got a quarter into that by the time they start offering me a new one.
― calzino, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 11:31 (three years ago) link
one of the worst features of recent android: no button to clear all app caches. like, why the fuck not?spotify's storage offenses are infamous. amazing that after all this time it STILL doesn't really remove downloads when you tell it to "remove downloads." eventually, you gotta uninstall, reboot, and reinstall. madness.
― sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 12:23 (three years ago) link
I think every Android phone I've had has come preloaded with a Samsung 'virtual assistant' bollocks (current one: "Bixby") that seems to exist solely for me to accidentally activate it, swear at it, vow to remove it any way I can, then forget until next time. Maybe I should start training myself up to do something useful when I do it, like drink some water or do a yoga move, until I become conditioned.
― kinder, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 12:39 (three years ago) link
checked my apps, the one taking up the most space is wechat at 3.2gb.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link
Recently got my first Samsung and I think Bixby is disabled. I had to check options in like 10 different menus and would not know how to tell anyone to turn it off. This is the kind of crap I spend an hour or three doing on a new phone. And despite that I still found after a few days that I was using some kind of Samsung backup feature. Turned it off and hit the button to delete whatever was backed up to their servers but uh.... yeesh
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link
lol it's this type of stuff re android that made me switch to an iPhone -- it still has that "storage Other" problem with cached crap that you have to do "special Apple magic" to get rid of.
also, damn y'all, Spotify sucks and rips off artists. No sympathy there.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
I have to use the Smart Switch app on my iMac to move data over from the Samsung.
And every time, this little window pops up: "Ready to transfer your iTunes files over to your Android?"
That question constantly ranks first as the (1.) Most tone-deaf, (2.) Answer unlikely to change, and quite possibly (3.) Overly-repeated that I get regularly asked.
― pplains, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
hahahah I have an iPhone & windows 10 -- I am sure there are a bunch of redundant cloud things that are in multiple places that I will eventually have to get annoyed by.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
just saw a QR code on a tv advert
(etoro? some trading site)
― koogs, Friday, 9 April 2021 13:11 (three years ago) link
Last time we drove to Michigan, I saw three billboards that were basically just giant QR codes with only the name of the company beneath. One was for a brewery, but I forgot the other two. Presumably, even at highway speeds, those still work?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 April 2021 13:42 (three years ago) link
Glad to see those companies are big supporters of highway safety.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 April 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link
xp the ongoing lack of progress of the investigation into the death of her daughter iirc
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 April 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link
security reorganisation on online bank account taht means paying regular bills has become a convoluted chore. Have to eneter and reenter codes to get payment transacted. Maybe it means taht there is less likelihood of having the account hacked but it just seems totally time consuming. NOt sure if having a much newer phone so I had teh app itself would make things easier.I always thought of my desktop as my main computer interface and phone as secondary. Is taht like totally outdated?
― Stevolende, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link
logging into my bank needs a security code generated by the banking app on my phone. i wonder if they thought this through?
― koogs, Friday, 9 April 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link
I'd guess they did; isn't this in addition to a password that should ideally only exist inside your head?
IANAE on this, but I think I've seen it described thus: Login (or whatever) should depend on data points from two out of the three following types: something you are, something you know, something you own/can access. In the first group are e.g. fingerprints or iris patterns, in the second groups are passwords, in the final group are e.g. phone authenticators. The idea (if I have understood this) is that compromising one of these is not enough to immediately compromise the entire thing.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 9 April 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
Ah maybe I see what you get at: if your login is on the phone, then the password may also be remembered on the same device, so the independence is broken. Yeah, I guess that is a weakness.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 9 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
a problem mitigated if you have some sort of code for getting into your phone at all, obv
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 9 April 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
drifting off topic, but: has there been any kind of paradigm shift in relation to "security questions"? i feel like half the ones i'm ever asked to fill out are things that conceivably could be learned by a reasonably determined identity thief. i guess they could deter some casual hacker with a password-generating machine or something.
― sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 9 April 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
xp Every time I log into my work email, Microsoft insists on a sending a security code to my phone, no matter how many times I check the little box that says "please don't do this for the next thirty days." What's the point of having the check box if it doesn't work?
― Lily Dale, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
You have to make sure to check only the boxes with bicycles in them i think
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Friday, 9 April 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
the phone generates a one-time password after i've entered my bank id and password. the (secure) password is stored in my password app behind a less secure password, but the phone also has a swipe pattern and/or fingerprint protecting it.
this generated password lets me log into bank's web page along with my bank id and my security question answer.
and if i want to send anyone money then i also need to generate a transaction id using the bank app on the phone.
(i'm more worried about needing a phone in order to access bank website. what if i lose it?)
― koogs, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
If I lost my phone, I would certainly need to jump through some hoops to get to my online bank yeah. (I guess I have a backup solution in the form of a digital code generator in a closet somewhere, but I doubt I'd remember the associated password/PIN needed with that one.) I'm assuming (read: hoping) this is a common enough occurrence that it is one of the areas where actual human customer support at the bank hasn't totally atrophied.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link
I had a little generator fob but it died without warning the day my rent was due* and installing the app was the only timely alternative
(* Probably not that exact day - I only used it once a month, could've been any time in the previous 30 days)
― koogs, Friday, 9 April 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
I am averse to fingerprint protection/login stuff because of all the tv and movies over the past few decades where they just cut the person's finger or hand off and use it to access the secret vault or door or what-have-you. I am sure this is just a sign that I am a truly damaged person, and that very few other people think about how this technological advancement can lead to dismemberment
― sarahell, Sunday, 11 April 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
I am averse to it because the fingerprint sensor seems to stop working after about 6 months for some reason.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 April 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link