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Saw that... once again, as with Schwarzenegger & Meg Whitman, wouldn't it be prudent to start your political career a little lower down the ladder than governor of the nation's most populous state? I don't think this recall is going anywhere anyway, but still..

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 April 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

this is a pretty technical ruling about the city's responsibilities to its unhoused residents, and it starts

"In the ebb of afternoon sunlight, young Americans looked at their former
compatriots as adversaries as they advanced towards them. Young teenagers
carried battle flags to rally upon in the chaos that would soon ensue. There is nothing free about freedom. It is borne from immense pain, suffering, and
sacrifice. Our country has struggled since the Emancipation Proclamation to right the evil of slavery."

and ends

"The devotion that Abraham Lincoln called for has not been met here."

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

don't know a single person who got a vaccine through myturn. anyone here?

For months, Alyssa Jenkins logged countless hours on MyTurn, California’s COVID vaccine registration site as she searched for precious appointment slots for her fellow teachers.

"I’d become obsessed," said Jenkins. "I was living in the system." https://t.co/IVmwY55i2e

— CalMatters (@CalMatters) April 22, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

i know plenty? ... i am waiting until May because I am just too busy with work to budget a few days of being sick

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

the site was a mess and buggy, but i know loads of people who got their appointments (oakland coliseum) through myturn.

wmlynch, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

maybe it ended up being more useful in the bay area.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

yeah, most of the folks I know who used it got their shots at the Coliseum

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

generally i get the impression shots have been harder to come by in the bay area, especially in SV. my work colleagues up there are still taking random half days this week, and i don't know anyone down here who hasn't got it yet. presumably this is because there are fewer hesitant/hourly waged people in a hyper wealthy part of the world like palo alto.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

The Bay Area is quite large and sprawling and there are plenty of hesitant/hourly-waged people and a lot of unemployed people? I mean, one could make a similarly semi-sensible generalization involving health-conscious affluent people in places like Santa Monica and the fucking Palisades ... idk dude

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

nah I think he's right about the lower hesitancy

https://abc7news.com/covid-vaccine-appointment-california-ca/10517371/

New data shows San Francisco has the lowest vaccine hesitancy in California. Only 7% of people in San Francisco said they're hesitant about getting the COVID-19 vaccine ...

The entire Bay Area ranks very low in vaccine hesitancy. Solano County has the most residents who are hesitant, according to the CDC, and they're still only at 11% hesitancy.

lukas, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

Yeah I know the east bay exists. I’m making a generalisation that is true on average.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

lol it isn't even just the East Bay ... you continue to make these generalizations and it's like ... can you just stop?

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link

https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/covid-19-vaccines-distribution/

Map don’t lie. I’m speculating about the reason but the fact is more people are getting vaccinated (and appointments seem correspondingly harder to come by) in the Bay Area than in Southern California.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link

I guess, looking at the map there is more "dark green" in the Bay Area than in SoCal ... still, San Benito County and Monterey County are about where I thought they would be, as in, not at the top of the charts, as it were. I consider both of these part of the Bay Area. A lot of it does seem to correlate to population density, as opposed to region.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

yes, if you look at the map there is more "dark green" in the bay area.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

all I'm saying is that the aggregation of data by county doesn't reflect the internal differences in those counties. ... For example, Santa Clara County is not just Silicon Valley, and it would be interesting to see a more detailed map. I don't doubt that affluence and education level play roles here, but I think population density and relative reliance on mass transit are factors as well.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

SF hit 66%/two-thirds with at least one shot yesterday so whatever's going on, I'll take it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

right, but if the thing you're trying to explain is a regional observation (which is how this started) then it's not "generalizing" or bad faith or whatever to look at attributes of region X and region Y at the regional level, and literally ignore the internal differences.

it is true that the rate of vaccination in the bay area is very high, possibly the highest in the united states except a couple of tribal nations. certainly the highest in the state. seems like hesitancy is also very low based on that survey.

it is *also* true that the level of education and median income are high in the bay area relative to the rest of the state.

i think these two might be connected. that doesn't mean i think everyone in the bay area owns two teslas and has a seven figure stock grant and a graduate degree. (but i do think that kind of person, who are more common in the bay area than elsewhere, are part of the reason the regional vaccination numbers are so high).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

fair enough.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

i would also like to see a bay area map. i've seen the vaccination map for la and it's not pretty. it correlates with fraction of white people and income (and even worse it anticorrelates perfectly with covid infection rates).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

it correlates with fraction of white people and income (and even worse it anticorrelates perfectly with covid infection rates).

i would guess that ours is not dissimilar

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

this is from february and i can't find the more recent version, but i doubt the colors have changed much

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-covid-vaccine-racial-disparities-by-neighborhood-map/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

in funnier news, these people are awful, they'd be on the quiddities thread if they were in new york and i ... agree with them 100%.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-Exit-Interview-Housemates-in-Oakland-16107718.php

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

honestly, I am trying to visualize where this "duplex in downtown Oakland" could possibly be ... like, there aren't really those types of buildings there. ... maybe a few? ... Maybe this is a classic example of NoBe-ism. (akm to thread)

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

It's actually an odd detail, tbh, considering they seem to be advocates for higher density housing ... yet apparently they live in part of a duplex in a neighborhood that is predominantly city services and commercial, and the majority of the housing is high-density multi-story apartment buildings ? ... though, my guess is that their neighborhood got edited to "downtown Oakland" as a result of SF-centeredness that was like, "does this neighborhood have a name? will readers be familiar with it? Let's just say 'downtown Oakland' it is kinda close ..."

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

maybe I could look them up on Nextdoor hahah

sarahell, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Ahh the irony. Tons of vaccine hesitancy in Marin County, when it comes to their precious gifted children (measles, rubella, polio, etc)..

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

I got my vaccination at Moscone Center through the myturn website, as did a few of my friends

Dan S, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

So did I. Moscone has had such positive (and well deserved in my experience) press as being well run, I feel very fortunate.

Myturn is clearly buggy (and also a significant fraction of the population struggles to reach it or any website) but apparently not useless.

fajita seas, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link

Here we go...

Caitlyn Jenner announces bid for California governor
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56864649

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 April 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

Do they even do the Olympic Decathlon anymore? Seems like nobody cares anymore about the all-around decent athlete, everything is so specialized now

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 April 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

I'm a little jealous of Moscone people, I took the first appointment I could get in Oakland.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Friday, 23 April 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

One fun thing you can do is look up random homes in Palo Alto and then look up literal castles in France you can buy for less money. Top is $2.25 million, bottom is $2.2. pic.twitter.com/g1798Z2s2I

— Quantian (@quantian1) April 29, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link

Yeah but the upkeep on the castle has gotta be killer

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 1 May 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

The Palo Alto house needs a new dishwasher, so it balances out.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

This appears to be a deliberate campaign strategy, and not an act of vandalism, fwiw. pic.twitter.com/n1MHOjwzRO

— Rob Pyers (@rpyers) May 3, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 3 May 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link

β€œThe coverage yesterday was all about the bear,” bemoans @BeastJohnCox, who brought the bear. Says focus should be on issues making California β€œunlivable and dangerous.”

— Guy Marzorati (@GuyMarzorati) May 5, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

Cox is in the Bay Area today, but sent the bear home... it was stealing all his thunder.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

my homie is running for gov lol

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

It's gonna be a clown car of candidates, and if voters go with the recall, whomever gets a the most votes becomes governor (as opposed to a majority). The whole thing is set up really badly.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

Hugely important and sobering story

Current and former public health officials say Newsom has entrusted the essential work of government to private-sector health and tech allies, hurting the ability of the state and local health departments to respond to the coronavirus pandemic https://t.co/sPUIdsky6A

— Miriam Pawel (@miriampawel) May 6, 2021

relative to the alternatives he's good, but he's a really bad governor!

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

don't elect shitty mayors to be governor, they'll just be shitty mayor governors

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

caek u a citizen yet

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

no, one the fence tbqfh and there's no rush

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

*on

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

but think of all the delicious voting you could be doing

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

(also would need a few nights with more than four hours sleep uninterrupted by my terrible children to pass the citizenship test, which i'm not getting any time soon)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

this seems correct (both about her aim, which is not to win but to grift, and the possibility that "trump voters and no one else" ends up being enough to be the winner of the plurality in a clown car field with no democrats)

I don’t think it’s this clever. It’s not really a campaign to become governor, it’s a campaign to become a conservative political celebrity. https://t.co/YP4x3WK3up

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) May 6, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link


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