― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Film negative format (mm/video inches)Video (HDTV)
Cinematographic processHDTV (1080p/24)
Aspect ratio2.35 : 1
― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
mann, in the press kit (i filched this from some website):
"Film doesn't record what our eyes can see at night. I wanted to see into the night, to see everything the naked eye can see and more...[to] see this moody landscape with hills and trees and strange light patterns."
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
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― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
interestingly "once upon a time in america" is in the academy ratio--maybe producers wanted it to look like "the godfather"??? or maybe leone had something in mind...
― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
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― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 July 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link
i'm sure at the end we'll find out he was planning to kill jamie foxx as soon as his "work" was done
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
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― ENRQ (Enrique), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link
"shot by shot, scene by scene, mann, whose recent work includes 'heat' and 'the insider,' may be the best director in hollywood. i don't mean that he's the greatest artist. he lacks such qualities as the tormented humanism of scorses, the generous showmanship and warmth of spielberg, the moral curiosity of the clint eastwood who directed 'unforgiven' and 'mystic river.' but mann has become a master builder of sequences, the opposite of the contemporary action directors who produce a brutally meaningless whirl of movement. methodical and precise, he analyzes a scene into minute components--a door closing, an arm thrust out--and gathers the fragments into seamless units; he wants you to live inside the physical event, not just experience the sensation of it."
why does rosenbaum dump on denby all the time?
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
i saw Heat just recently for the first time. muy bueno. im excited for collateral
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
that said:
as for spielberg's "warmth" i'd say it's mostly queasy sentimentality and middle-aged cuteness so i don't know about that.
also to say that mann lacks "moral curiosity" doesn't make much sense to me, although i'm not really sure what denby means by that.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link
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― jaymc, Thursday, 5 August 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
I can't imagine what sort of French people Denby hangs out with, because this cosmic description of 'the French' excludes virtually every French filmmaker, critic, and filmgoer I know--many of whom are even more delighted by 'the philistine exuberance of American entertainment' than Denby is."
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― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
i ching
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
tom cruise empowers jamie foxxxxx
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
he does
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
look at us talking about digital video upthread like it wasn't about to completely engulf all filmed entertainment.
(and big lols at us being all like, "widescreen tv isn't gonna be a thing for a LONG time")
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
diggin this no belt look
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
maybe in the end... it will be jamie foxxxxxx who teaches tom cruise about ~lyfe~
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, this is a fun thread to read seven years later. Maybe the only time a post of mine was part-composed by a cat?
― A Lip in the Blandscape (jaymc), Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
cool dog crossing street
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
underselling a COYOTE TROTTING ACROSS THE ROAD TO CHRIS CORNELL
― encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
I think tom cruises facial hair is growing at a millimeter a minute
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ cgi cruise
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
RUFFALO
"How are things?""Mezzo-mezzo."
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
bardem was dope in his small role, and how ruffs got sonned in this movie was a nice touch. appreciate the statham cameo, too.
― omar little, Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
there are a few scenes in this that are just completely stunning
the one in the glass office building at night, and the first few minutes or so when they're in the train towards the end
iirc
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely the glass office blackout scene is amazing, especially on the big screen.
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
― your way better (Eazy), Friday, October 28, 2011 11:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
hah I don't think I've ever consciously noticed ruffalo in a movie before, didn't know that was him until I checked the credits
kind of felt like "oh, so that's who the ladies on ilx go crazy over?" :\
this gives me an idea - create "dinner party" cuts of films like this, all the shots of LA cut and driving cut together with no people in 'em, and you just loop it on the 57" plasma hanging on the wall of your 60th floor penthouse while you berate the porter for insufficiently chilling the shrimp cocktails
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link
haha @ this piece of trivia
To prepare for the movie, Tom Cruise had to make FedEx deliveries in a crowded LA market without anyone recognizing him as Tom Cruise.
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
i think the ruffalistas would probably remove his 'collateral' look from consideration
still he is pretty great in his small role
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't see this when it came out, watched it two or three times on DVD, saw it at the Lightbox tonight. I think the first half's as good as Heat, starts to drag the last half hour. I like seeing Ruffalo and Bardem a couple of years before Zodiac/No Country. IMDB says Debi Mazar plays a Young Professional Woman; missed her completely, tonight and every time. Same godawful rock song shows up a couple of times. Some funny lines scattered about.
― clemenza, Friday, 13 March 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link
The rock song is Audioslave, right?
― jaymc, Friday, 13 March 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link
Ha, OK, yes, as people have said upthread.
― jaymc, Friday, 13 March 2015 04:27 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that's it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKX-2pa-UE
Ugh. I did find a great YouTube title searching for it: "Collateral Cab Scene."
― clemenza, Friday, 13 March 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link
sometimes I wonder if Audioslave made it to three albums because Michael Mann was secretly bankrolling them
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 13 March 2015 05:22 (nine years ago) link
Debi Mazar is half of the arguing couple that's Foxx's first fare of the day, right at the movie's start.
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Friday, 13 March 2015 05:24 (nine years ago) link
Deleted scene that must have cost a lot to make, considering they flew over LAX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BisMTKjKgi4
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Friday, 13 March 2015 05:31 (nine years ago) link
Still love this movie. I know people complain about the last 30 minutes but there's good stuff there, even if it is more standard action fare. Was happy to see EW give it a ten year treatment last year. http://www.ew.com/ew/static/longform/collateral/desktop/
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 13 March 2015 06:09 (nine years ago) link
wow, that shot over the airport in the deleted scene! now we all know how to shake a chopper in LA, thanks vincent
― dutch_justice, Friday, 13 March 2015 07:42 (nine years ago) link
Mazar--of course, duh. I was having trouble last night even remembering any females in the film outside of Pinkett Smith; all I could come up with was the FBI woman and Jamie Foxx's mother.
― clemenza, Friday, 13 March 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
genuinely the best movie ever
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link
miami vice still my fave mann but every time i rewatch this i find it masterful, the way the successive escalations of the plot eventually push it into this dream/nightmare space that max is stuck in, and then a coyote walks across the road to an audioslave song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
I guess I should finally watch this
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
There are elements of Collateral that have stuck with me for years, like the coyote at night, or the subtle detail that Foxx's cab driving skills, which get Jada to her destination early, are what throws off punctual ninja Cruise and set the whole movie in motion.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
miami vice still my fave
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, April 14, 2021 1:07 PM (one hour ago)
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link
I like Collateral; it's as good as Heat, I'd say, and you don't have anything like Pacino's hammier moments.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link
heat is one of my favorite gay films of all time but yeah i think collateral is better. hard for me to choose between it, miami vice, and (the beguiling) blackhat
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link
I don't love Heat as much as other people, though I haven't seen it since it played in theatres, so there's a fair chance I might have a different perspective on it these days. Collateral I liked better at the time, and would probably be more inclined to rewatch today.
― edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
it's definitely shorter
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
1) the funky new hi-def video michael mann is using looks totally amazing― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, July 23, 2004 3:24 AM (sixteen years ago) it's gonna look awesome no matter what― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, July 23, 2004 3:40 AM (sixteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, July 23, 2004 3:24 AM (sixteen years ago)
it's gonna look awesome no matter what
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, July 23, 2004 3:40 AM (sixteen years ago)
Just watched this for the first time. It does indeed look awesome, Mann's use of available light (= hundreds of different types of artificial light) makes the early HD digital look like Super 16 saturated colour and grain.
noted earlier but lol at many of the OG posts itt. the past is a different country:
yeah, i find that whole "widescreen-on-TV" thing kind of weird. in the beginning (sopranos? E.R.? i forget which was first) it was obviously a sop to the idea that widescreen TVs would take over. but they obviously haven't, and won't for a while. ― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, July 23, 2004 3:56 AM (sixteen years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, July 23, 2004 3:56 AM (sixteen years ago)
i'm sure at the end we'll find out he was planning to kill jamie foxx as soon as his "work" was done― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, July 26, 2004 11:17 PM (sixteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, July 26, 2004 11:17 PM (sixteen years ago)
And you say you object to Law and Order "on principle"... what principle? It's a police procedural!― Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, August 7, 2004 5:15 PM (sixteen years ago)
― Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, August 7, 2004 5:15 PM (sixteen years ago)
so are hollywood movies really not supposed to show people smoking? cos strangely for a film involving taxi drivers and world-weary cops, i don't think ANYBODY lit up a cigarette. well, i guess smoking is banned in LA nightclubs/bars, so maybe it was a touch of realism...― ||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Sunday, August 8, 2004 3:02 PM (sixteen years ago)
― ||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Sunday, August 8, 2004 3:02 PM (sixteen years ago)
What phone number can I call you at right now?― Harold Media (kenan), Monday, August 9, 2004 3:35 PM (sixteen years ago)
― Harold Media (kenan), Monday, August 9, 2004 3:35 PM (sixteen years ago)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
Funny, I just watched this again the other night. Holds up really well, not just the bits of comedy but Foxx playing against type, and Cruise, well, playing to type, but a different kind of type. I had forgotten about all the stuff with Jada again at the end, which is pretty generic, but Mann (and Cruise, actually) find some new ways of doing it. For example, one of my favorite moments is Cruise standing outside the train door at maximum pissed off intensity, gun raised, just waiting for Foxx or Jada to poke so much as a finger out. Memorable bits like that almost make up for the relative silliness of those last several minutes, even if Foxx-finally-as-hero does pay off, thematically.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
Just rewatched this for the first time since it came out. I remembered it fondly — I'm a Mann fan — but it was better than I even remembered. So gorgeous. A fine entry in the it-all-happens-in-one-night canon, which is one of my favorite subgenres.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 6 September 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
Just saw this for the first time! So good! I love LA at night
― calstars, Friday, 22 July 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
Fox and Cruz are very good , esp Fox
― calstars, Friday, 22 July 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
Ruffalo and Bardem too!
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link