Media mostly had done a good job of acknowledging this, but there's a stupid panhandle paper that reported an alarming 137% spike in FL cases as a headline, indicated the decline was over, and inexplicably in the next sentence acknowledged that week to week comparisons weren't accurate because of Memorial Day
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link
Was just browsing Twitter and saw a post about Jeff Garlin on ESPN radio today, getting a little worked up about MLB players that are refusing vaccination. Probably should have expected it, but I'd say 90% of the replies were rabidly anti vaccination. It's sad on so many levels, not least because the type of person to respond to a tweet about sports is exactly the person most likely to be filling the seats in these stadiums now that capacity limits are being removed.
It's depressing as fuck, not just for COVID, but to think that this will be what we go through for every other newly developed vaccine moving forward.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link
by 2071, there will be 70 people left in the world.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
Also jfc at how many of these "vaCCINATiON IS A peRsoNAl CHOice, YOu can'T foRce me" people are also rabidly fucking pro-life.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link
50% of most developed countries with a growing fascist undercurrent can have their politics simply boiled down to "don't tell ME what to fuckin' do"
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link
Also get the fuck out of here with these "well, if you're vaccinated you have nothing to worry about so don't tell me what to do". Except, fucking no, it's not that easy.
And I realize I'm not posting anything new or particularly insightful here, but this is just really getting under my skin today when coupled with the slowing vax numbers.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link
Starting to really feel lately like the human race doesn't make it another hundred years as a viable species. Largely because a sizable % of the population so desperately yearns for that result.
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
no it's because we will be ruled by Aquaman
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
'ruled by a Q man' I believe u mean
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
Lololol
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
a sizable % of the population so desperately yearns for that result
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMKSwcZNpd8
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
Texas appears to be one of the main culprits in the (probably unnatural) plateau/"increase" in cases.
Texas has had data anomalies on back to back days, reporting over 13,000 new cases on Wednesday/Thursday (their usual 7-day average had been 1,500). Our World in Data usually handles these anomalies by spreading the backlogged cases over several days in their data which causes their 7-day average to be less affected by severe data anomalies (but on the flipside, it means they alter past data after the fact, so previous 7-day averages sometimes change after they're published, which...isn't great).
NYT on the other hand just uses the data as reported and labels it a data anomaly. so yesterday, it appeared there was a severe spike up to 22,000 new cases, and the 7-day average went up, but they labeled both days a data anomaly for Texas. Our World in Data, on the other hand, shows the 7-day average continuing to decline, and only reported 14,000-ish cases.
that plus Florida only releasing data once a week is making data hella difficult to analyze atm. I suspect Texas probably released a glut of Memorial Day-ish cases.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link
Some people ITT really desperate to find bad news
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link
Was just browsing Twitter and saw a post about Jeff Garlin on ESPN radio today, getting a little worked up about MLB players that are refusing vaccination. Probably should have expected it, but I'd say 90% of the replies were rabidly anti vaccination. It's sad on so many levels, not least because the type of person to respond to a tweet about sports is exactly the person most likely to be filling the seats in these stadiums now that capacity limits are being removed.It's depressing as fuck, not just for COVID, but to think that this will be what we go through for every other newly developed vaccine moving forward.β a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:47 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
β a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:47 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
what makes me extra infuriated are people abroad suffering and dying and how 2021 will be worse in sum than 2020 and just the sheer gall, selfishness, plain boneheadedness in vaccine refusal, it boggles my mind. our reputation is completely deserved
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link
β longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:15 AM bookmarkflaglink
great contribution
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link
if that was at me, then i really don't know what thread you've been reading, cos I've been captain optimist for months
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link
otm, it's so disheartening global.
I don't see folks looking for bad news, I see most people itt being cautiously optimistic but rightfully angry about how many damn refuseniks populate our country.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link
After 5 (acute) years of stressing myself out over their bullshit I'm pretty tired of giving them any of my energy or attention.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
Sure, I get that impetus without a doubt. It's just harder to let the guard down when you still have someone unvaccinated in your household, so you do take the fluctuations a little more seriously and get a little more irate about the dumb holdouts.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
Some people ITT really desperate to find bad newsβ longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:15 AM bookmarkflaglink
you misunderstand me. i think it's good that cases are growing exponentially in the UK.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
Fewer people at the pub!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
i think the issue is vaccination isn't going that quickly for younger people and the variants going around. i got my first jab in canada - which had seemed a bit of a vaccine laggard - before most of my friends got theirs in the uk.
― γMyst1kOblivi0nγ (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
Biden now says 500 million doses of Pfizer are getting donated to struggling countries.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link
illustration from the CDC's website of how much 'backlog' data is still impacting the numbers: https://i.ibb.co/bHz234H/6-11-2021-8-10-16-AM.jpg
I don't believe the CDC includes historic cases in their average, so you'll see it's somewhat not impacted, but the New York Times and John Hopkins does.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 June 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link
second jab yesterday, ears ringing like a bastard.
― koogs, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
Tried to eat oatmeal this morning and, yet again, damn spoon went immediately to my forehead.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 June 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
On the plus side, I don't misplace my keys as often as I used to.
― henry s, Friday, 11 June 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
keys open doorskeys open doors
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 June 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
On the minus side, I think it will become much harder to outrun that spiky Phantasm orb now.
― henry s, Friday, 11 June 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
BOYYYYYYYYYYYY
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link
So sick of whiny fucking babies about the masks. Illinois opens back up and one of my favorite record stores posted a thing about how they are going to be requiring masks inside for a little longer, a very reasonable request and a well worded, polite way to make it. Instantly comments like "but why... other stores made them optional", "this is super disappointing to see", "but the CDC says we don't need to".
Just, ugh, shut the fuck up. If you can't handle a mask for 20 minutes while you shop, just stay the fuck home and never leave it again.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
there are some who treated the CDC guidelines as an edict, THOU SHALT NOT WEAR MASKS
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link
Yesterday: first time being in an indoor environment (takeout restaurant with a line to order) where <10% of people were masked. Put mine on to go inside anyway, partially out of cussedness, I guess, didn't want to let the feeling of discomfort govern me.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link
at least he's still actively importing new cases and variantsβ bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:32 PM (four weeks ago)
β bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:32 PM (four weeks ago)
have we figured out whether this is a good idea yet
BREAKING: Delta variant cases jump 240% in one week in UK https://t.co/n6GaqCXrh5— Evening Standard (@standardnews) June 11, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link
Neanderthal can break down the data.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link
Breakdown: not good.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link
Yes the variant is more infectious, but it's circulating mostly around the non-vaccinated, and they're whinging about.... securing the border.
The blame for this lies with the Prime Minister and his reckless refusal to act on Labourβs repeated warnings to secure our borders against Covid and its variants.β
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
tbc my own position remains that more than one (1) international public health measure can be taken during a deadly pandemic
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:43 (three years ago) link
But fewer than one is also possible. And easier.
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:47 (three years ago) link
My point is they're scapegoating the border when all that did was let the variant in (probably before we knew it existed), the spread is largely exacerbated by similar vaccination stubbornness to our own Yankees.
Close the border all you want, the shit's going to be the prevalent strain anyway unless (like the US) you get the vaxx-hesitant off the sidelines.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 June 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link
scapegoating the border when all that did was let the variant in
how many ppl have died of the Delta variant in Australia?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 12 June 2021 05:37 (three years ago) link
I don't know about the US, but vaccine uptake in the UK has been very high so far, so I don't think anti-vax stubbornness is that much of a factor.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 June 2021 09:37 (three years ago) link
My partner's reaction to her 2nd AZ jab was identical to her 1st one, it was like the worst ever MS relapse ever for 24 hours. Mobility reduced to unable to even stand up without collapsing, and she could barely even mover her legs. I'd be interested to find out if people with MS have had similar reactions to Pfizer or the other vaccs because it was a very extreme reaction and quite terrifying at the time tbh.
― calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 09:52 (three years ago) link
xxpost Maybe I read the reports wrong, but this latest uptick in UK cases is not only relative to very low previous numbers, but I thought also those catching this delta strain of covid are 95+% those not vaccinated or not entirely vaccinated, which ... makes sense? Very, very, very few of those that are fully vaxxed are catching it, which should be the headline.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link
"those catching this delta strain of covid are 95+% those not vaccinated or not entirely vaccinated" is true (see table) but isn't really the point. fully vaccinated people are less than half the population (true in the US too). no kids are vaccinated in the UK (overwhelmingly true in the US).
i don't know what the headline should be, and if you're vaccinated you probably don't need to worry about your personal health (congrats!), but the fact that a government with a record of callousness/incompetence/psyhcopathy has agreed to postpone plans to reopen the country by a month suggests it's a fairly big deal to public health.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3l5Nh-X0AIasuK?format=jpg&name=large
more detail here:
PHE report on variants just out. Highlights:->90% of cases across England now delta-delta ~66% more transmissible-Most cases are in school age children-30% deaths were among fully vaccinated and 17% in partly vaccinated-cases of delta sublineage with K417N mutation𧡗 Deepti Gurdasani (@dgurdasani1) June 11, 2021
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link
A lot of people are not fully vaxxed in the UK, not because they don't want to be but because we have a National Health Service and we're used to having to wait for ages for shit instead of just paying for it and getting it immediately.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link
Very, very, very few of those that are fully vaxxed are catching it, which should be the headline.
wait should Australia let the variant in or not then
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 13 June 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link
I mean, is it surprising that the virus, in any form, is spreading among those who are not vaxxed or not fully vaxxed? Of course it's not a good thing, and of course people may be unvaxxed for any number of reasons. But a headline that the Delta variant or whichever strain is up 240% or something really needs the caveat that that's among those who are not fully vaccinated, because it could very well be the case one day that we will get a strain that's up 240% among those that *are* vaccinated, and that seems more newsworthy. Unvaccinated people getting sick is kind of dog bites man.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 June 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link