like I hate to say I told you so but of any group of four random dudes who want attention one of them is probably doing some heinous shit
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link
ok I don't actually hate to say I told you so, it rules
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
xp Two, if they're getting attention.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
yes afaict "this culture" is just straight men
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link
Honestly thought Virgil was gay. or bi.
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link
sexual abuse and exploitation of teenagers by adults is basically mainstream
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link
hot ready and legal et cetera
Or I should say: I guess he’s bi?
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link
I don't think sexuality as such necessarily has much to do with whether you are a person who will be abusive to a teenage fan who sends you an email
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link
true enough
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
"this culture" i meant the whole edgy dirtbag vice adjacent thing in this instance but yes it's just patriarchy
― Left, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
Fuck him and also never trust a man who has done or even tried to do standup.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
massive fuck you to everyone who so confidently asserted that the “allegations against” taibbi had been “debunked”. this is how you reproduce rape culture
Bringing on Matt Taibbi for an episode of your show with Virgil Texas is maybe not the best timing right now. https://t.co/JSSQxLZLPu— Syndicalist Weedle Collective (@Weedledouble) June 10, 2021
― Left, Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
Virgil has an accuser at least
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link
how come i knew about this over a year before she came forward? honestly i don’t remember where i heard it but it has been out there for some time. why does it need to come to this every fucking time?
― Left, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link
There was a list of online creeps years ago and VT was on it
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link
now chapo stans and the crypto fascists in their orbit have been harassing her on social media to no one’s surprise. this could have been avoided
― Left, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link
The fact that she was scared of being accused of being a pro-Trumper and that it delayed her coming forward is unbelievable, and a major illustration of the toxicity of that milieux. I hope she finds peace.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
well yes. but there’s also the president and his fans
― Left, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link
thank go’s she has the two of you to
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
case*
anyway, fuck groomer creeps including “Virgil Texas”. but thank christ you two unbearable clowns are here to victory dance
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link
whoosh
the point is not that i am some kind of sleuth but that it was already more or less common knowledge. and yet
― Left, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link
why do the people directly affected keep having to put themselves in the firing line like this so that if they’re lucky a few more people might now take seriously what is already widely known?
― Left, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link
Because Hulk took down Gawker
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
there's nothing special going on here AFAICT in terms of toxicity, patriarchal abuses of power, and online stan culture, except that it stands out more when it appears to be in conflict with stated politics
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
trying to decide if BJG will cut him loose or double down, suspect the latter
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
(I mean that show will remain unlistenable regardless)
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link
Left podcast world seems to have gone silent on this
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
but thank christ you two unbearable clowns are here to victory dance
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, June 10, 2021 5:41 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
what are you talking about ?
Expressing sadness that women are coerced into shutting up about sexual abuse because of toxic twitter culture is a victory dance? This is a weird thing to say.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 10 June 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
Orb fail
A deeply moving podcast that leaves you with a million things to think about. @bariweiss https://t.co/qIPcXmyJON— Marianne Williamson (@marwilliamson) June 10, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 11 June 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
who needs her anymore
My homies put me on @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE— LOLA (@GangstaBooQOM) June 10, 2021
― JoeStork, Friday, 11 June 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link
on 530 when they were riffing on Naomi Wolf, Matt brought up one of my fav weird little things of the 90s - when everyone who grew up in Wisconsin called cash machines "time machines"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link
I heard you paint dog houses.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
has Red Scare gotten any blowback for being total anti-Palestine idiots on pod in the past now that the issue's blown up in the discourse again or nah?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 17 June 2021 09:31 (two years ago) link
I just sort of assumed most ppl who know they're dummies stopped listening ages ago
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:06 (two years ago) link
yeah I guess, just seeing their star in the ascendant and while I'm not usually out for blood on these things in this particular case a cancellation would be in order
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:27 (two years ago) link
they can't be "cancelled" because they have a loyal simp audience and they're making the content they wish to hear, and any external criticism is just that, external. it would be like "cancelling" cum town - what's the point?
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:42 (two years ago) link
As I said, my impression is that they're getting more shine outside of that audience.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:44 (two years ago) link
Hopefully dasha's acting career ends up nuking the pod before that can really happen, but personally my feeling is the audience/popularity/influence ceiling for the show is genuinely not that high
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link
(Like, obviously they're doing very, very well for a podcast, but I don't see even CTH-level "ubiquity" in their future.)
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link
It won't happen anytime soon, but I'm guessing they could be among the first to eventually hang it up and focus on their life-consuming non-podcast things -- something I don't notice as much on the other shows I've heard. It sounds like the show serves themselves more than anyone else, which is what their listeners want. Probably not the best way to expand an audience, but definitely a good way to maintain a following.
― billstevejim, Friday, 18 June 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
Matt and Chris have a new one on Stitcher Premium about Presidents. It’s bound to be better than the Felix show but the Stitcher app is so bad.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 18 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
Eager to finally hear Blowback: Cuba.
I dig the episodes that are the mix of history, sociology, culture, politics mixed together.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 18 June 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link
on a tangentially-chapo related note: Sam Seder's ambush of Crowder was hilarious
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
Mostly because Seder appears for 2 seconds and Crowder starts sputtering and trying to fill every available space with words so Seder can't talk
― Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 05:51 (two years ago) link
Crowder has also banned the terms Sam Seder and majority report from his reddit, lol
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 09:24 (two years ago) link
holy shit lol
― Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 10:35 (two years ago) link
daily wire whining on Twitter about bad faith “debate me bro”s is reaching heights of hypocrisy that I did not think were possible
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link