https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE
― treeship., Monday, 14 June 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link
RIP I’ll always remember you big guy.
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 June 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link
I wish I talked about Trump instead. I played "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" for them--and had to stop 30 seconds in. (Hadn't seen the video for 30 years at least.) Jesus. "Teachable moment," as they say.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 June 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link
I have honestly never seen that video before. Holy hell.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
xxp don't get my hopes up please
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
wow @ that culture club video, sure I have seen that before, how did I not notice THAT?
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
Karma Chameleon video is also fairly problematic along similar lines
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
I had "Karma Chameleon" cued up to play after, but that was immediately a no-go...It really shook me up. We talked about it, and then I phoned the principal as soon as I had a break. She was really good about it. Last time I ever play a music video without double-checking first.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 June 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
from https://www.songfacts.com/facts/culture-club/do-you-really-want-to-hurt-me, don't know that this really explains it...
The concept of the video was Boy George as an outsider, getting kicked out of different places in various historical settings. It was directed by Julien Temple, who came up with the idea of jurors dressed in blackface. This was a shocking image for American audiences, who long associated blackface with racism, but in England it was far more accepted as part of their music hall tradition.Temple explained in the book I Want My MTV: "'Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" was about being gay and being victimized for your sexuality, which George was kind of emblematic of. It seemed appropriate to me that in the video he would be judged by jurors in blackface, to send up bigotry and point out the hypocrisy of the many gay judges and politicians in the UK who'd enacted anti-gay legislation."
Temple explained in the book I Want My MTV: "'Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" was about being gay and being victimized for your sexuality, which George was kind of emblematic of. It seemed appropriate to me that in the video he would be judged by jurors in blackface, to send up bigotry and point out the hypocrisy of the many gay judges and politicians in the UK who'd enacted anti-gay legislation."
count me among the people who saw this many times as a child, but did not recall the blackface element
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Was there an edited version as well, maybe?
I seem to recall the original video for Taco's "Putting on the Ritz" featuring blackface bits that were later removed and replaced with generic stills of Gary Cooper
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
I think there was...? I remember reading at the time that MTV refused to play it (not that MTV's programming wasn't already explicitly racist in the early '80s).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
See also UB40's 1980 video for 'Dream a Lie'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfoVVRDU378
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
There must have been an alternative or edited version, I've never seen that before.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
xpost yeah looks like the blackface is in the slow opening part of the song. Pretty easy to cut that part out.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
I had to check when The Black and White Minstrel show ended on the BBC - 1978, so three years before the Culture Club video, too far a distance timewise for the CC vid to be taken or excused as parody.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
Running weekly for 20 years makes enough of a cultural impact that it can still be referred to as an element of public consciousness three years later... even if the stage show wasn’t still touring regularly until 1987, and playing Butlins until 1989.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
too far a distance timewise for the CC vid to be taken or excused as parody
Are you kidding? People are still making jokes about shit that happened in 1978 now.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link
True. That was the year the Star Wars Xmas special aired.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
ask someone if they have 'badges' and wait for them to tell you they don't have to show you any 'stinkin badges'.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
Wait, is this the Donald Trump thread? I think I'm lost
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 14 June 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link
all threads are Donald Trump threads. no threads are Donald Trump threads.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link
Boy George came out as MAGA
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link
not my lover, but my rival
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
Make America George Again
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
I'll grumble 4 ya
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
KarMA_GAmeleon
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
but really, he did?xp
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link
Perhaps he has a... poisoned mind
― Champagne Heathernova (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
trump is still doing fake tweets as "statements" on his website. nothing worth mentioning.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
File in the "WTF?" dept.:
The niece of Osama bin Laden on Wednesday protested the Biden-Putin summit with a “Trump Won” flag.
Video surfaced on Twitter Wednesday showing Noor bin Laden, on a boat with others, holding a “Trump Won” flag in Geneva, the site of the summit. Noor bin Laden is pushing the unfounded claim that former President Trump won the 2020 election.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link
i think maybe bin Laden's angle is that anything that promotes the idea the Trump Won is a destabilizing influence for the U.S. as a whole. or, you know, she could just be out of her mind like so much of humanity
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:08 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
vvg
― Eschew things thirty two times before swallowing them (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
BIN LADEN WON
― Alba, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link
she could just be out of her mind
This. She's been a major, out of her mind Trumper for years.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link
bin laden did win, tbh
he got bush and the neocons to sliiiiightly overreact in Iraq and Afghanistan, which played a big hand in obama getting elected (he was one of the few candidates who could credibly say he was against iraq from the beginning), and then white americans got so mad about a black man being president that they elected trump, which made pretty much everyone mad
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
not that he planned it out that way, of course. but the initial destabilizing event 9/11 led very directly to other destabilizing events, varnished the bravado of 80% of americans being for bush in the wake of the attack, freedom fries, all that bullshit. one big evil tragedy leads to another
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link
and eventually everyone's just like "fuck you asshole!", including me. seriously, fuck any republican 4 life for what they did. i'm supposed to talk to them? fuck them
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link
She's a nutjob, but honestly, I don't think there is much significance to the Bin Laden connection
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link
okay, she references some 'bombshell': ... the Revolver News bombshell on possible FBI infiltration in 1/6
Prepare for this bombshell, people.. this... changes... everything...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link
BI(nla)DEN WON
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link
The golldang FBI orchestrated the Capitol Riots!! Wait watch the lametream media try to distort this electrifying new evidence
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
Trump-Bin Laden 2024
― treeship., Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
Here we go:
BREAKING: Congressman Matt Gaetz calls on FBI Director Christopher Wray to fully disclose the role and involvement of FBI operatives during the January 6th Capitol riot.
Look! a condor in a wet suit!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
he sure is playing with fire
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link
now i'm looking up how many nieces and nephews bin laden has but i can't find it, i think it may be in the hundreds
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 17 June 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link
he had 53 siblings and most (if not all) males in his family have a large number of wives
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 17 June 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
Bin Laden, nieces, nephews, Matt Gaetz: patterns seem to be appearing - what could it all mean?
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 June 2021 05:38 (two years ago) link
The scum also rises.
― earlnash, Thursday, 17 June 2021 05:43 (two years ago) link
The golldang FBI orchestrated the Capitol Riots!!
This isn't really an unbelievable concept.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 17 June 2021 05:52 (two years ago) link
these patterns...they must mean something!
this can't be a coincidence
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 June 2021 06:01 (two years ago) link