Predator vs. Predator 2

I remember loving P2, watched in the cinema, rewatched shortly after on dvd still loved it. but watched more recently and oh lawd I couldn't take it.

The first film otoh is still brilliant.

Am I wrong in thinking that in 2 they fucked up the Pred thermal vision thing, and showed one still using it even without their helmet on (which provides the tech in the first place). cannot be arsed googling.com

uh as far as i can remember, no that didn't happen

I wonder how the Jamaican voodoo gangsters come across in 2021.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, June 22, 2021 7:42 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

broadly-drawn and therefore very poorly but it's also just, idk, an outrageous fictional universe where danny glover supercop becomes worthy of the title intergalactic warrior so i can cut it a lot of slack while i'm watching it

every setpiece is just an awesome visual cornucopia, cf. the strobing subway scene where bill paxton's comic relief character finally blessedly dies, or the long drifting lights of gary busey's alien-capture SWAT team trying to catch the predator in an empty slaughterhouse

(actually i grew to love paxton's extremely goofy performance over the course of the movie even though he has the worst lines on earth)

the decision to have the predator actually say "motherfucker" is not one i would've made but i appreciate the tastelessness of it, again, total comic book energy

and the whole movie is just very visually inventive, all these luminous masses of blue and orange, the camera often either hanging omnisciently over the scene or locked in extreme-close-up so you see the mists of sweat coming off of everyone's face

I think there was a Steven Segal movie that came out the same year as P2 with ridiculously ott/bordering on the racially offensive Jamaican caricature gangsters in it, but can't recall which movie - can only remember some writer in The Face magazine commenting on it quite possibly looking like a new bad trend in Hollywood movies.

uh as far as i can remember, no that didn't happen

Aahh but it did..

(quote from internet):
At 1 hour, 22 minutes, and 14 seconds into the film, the Predator is following Det. Harrigan up a ladder leading out of the meat warehouse. Harrigan just removed City Hunter's bio helmet, so there is no way the pred can see in his infra red (or whatever it's called) vision mode, and yet in this specific shot we get a first person view from pussy face in pred vision though he does not have on his mask. Is this an error or can preds see like this without their bio helmets on?

ohhh i think i misunderstood you

I think there was a Steven Segal movie that came out the same year as P2 with ridiculously ott/bordering on the racially offensive Jamaican caricature gangsters in it, but can't recall which movie - can only remember some writer in The Face magazine commenting on it quite possibly looking like a new bad trend in Hollywood movies.

― calzino, Tuesday, June 22, 2021 8:44 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

marked for death.

has a steven seagal and jimmy cliff collaboration on the soundtrack

i remember thinking predator 2 was total horseshit but maybe i'll have to "rescreen" it

from pussy face?

I just remembered I watched part (all?) of the most recent reboot in a hotel room, and ... what the fuck was that?

spent about a year in reshoots forced on Black and multiple re-edits by the studio

The first scene in Predator 2 with the big drug shoot out was intense in the cinema.

I like the first Predator movie and have no interest in any of the other predator movies.