Europe has had these kind of groups forever, they might just be rebranding and wearing yellow kilts now... thinking of Golden Dawn in Greece, the old National Front in the UK, etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
Yeah I wasn't under the assumption that Europe is somehow lacking in neo fascist movements - I'm well aware it's not, I live here! :) Which is why I categorized the Proud Boys as a particular brand of deranged nonsense, as opposed to the other brands like the EDL, Golden Dawn, etc.
Tbh tho there is a sociologically interesting thing that happens where you have alt right types here who are terminally online, follow US politics obsessively, absorb talking points from the US alt right no matter how ill suited they are for the places they actually live in, etc. This overlaps with but is distinct from the more trad blood and soil fash. Probably an international development, that guy from Malaysia seems emblematic of that tendency.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
Yeah it's weird that there's Trump supporters outside of the U.S. as well, who even appear to have a vested interest in the big election lie.. but I guess part of that is QAnon which is definitely an international movement at this point
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
More Freedom Phone info: The phone has so many red flags that it's difficult to know where to start. The website lists almost no information about the device itself. There's the name, a picture, and a price, but there's no spec sheet of any kind. This is a $500 phone, and its website gives you no indication of what you're actually buying. The front page of the website looks normal, but every button that should say something like "learn more" and link to more information instead says, "Buy it now." There are 10 "buy it now" links placed all over the front of the website—and almost no important information about the phone...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/eJIhKUe.jpg
🤔
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link
I guess after the Tucker incident lil Ben is getting nervous that the next time he makes a stunt trip to Home Depot in Nashville to own the libs someone might pop off at him
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link
ben's followers prefer shooting at people in public :/
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 12:38 (two years ago) link
Mad about adhering to strict gender roles for a blue alien puppet named Gonzo. pic.twitter.com/xX7ghjIJRH— Mx. D. E. Anderson (@diannaeanderson) August 3, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
Maybe the distinction doesn’t matter any more, but aren’t the past few bumps of this thread just typical conservative antics? Feel like these kind of stories long predate the “alt right” which was more of neo nazi thing.
― beard papa, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
Well, they may be classic righty moves but they're being pulled by people who came up during the alt era. So think of it as like when punk bands record classic rock-sounding albums.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link
the neo-nazis are laying low rn while the FBI is still arresting Jan 6 insurrectionists. they'll crawl out of their holes later.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
Trans Agenda = shelved Kraftwork album
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link
I wish Candace would clarify which manly puppets we should resurrect
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link
Allegations in a court filing that the main publishing outlet for Atomwaffen, O9A, etc, books has been effectively bankrolled by the FBI for years:
There's more in this filing, including the original FBI affidavit for the search of the AWD TX house, which has never been made public before. Bottom line is this: Martinet Press has been essentially bankrolled by the feds, pumping out a steady stream of extremist lit— Ali Winston (@awinston) August 21, 2021
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 21 August 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link
remembering the time a bunch of blue checks decided to celebrate the FBI for some imagined resistance to trumpism. there was even a hashtag
this is the tip of a massive iceberg, if we're lucky more stuff will come out after several years or decades
― Left, Saturday, 21 August 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
ILX doesn't have blue checks, what are you talking about
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 21 August 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
was reading some stuff earlier this year about informants in the groups timothy mcveigh hung out in before the OKC bombing. unfortunately when it does come out this stuff gets buried and relegated to the conspiracy theory bin. there is abundant information about highly paid informants doing crimes and encouraging others to do the same. it doesn't do anything to change the narrative that the FBI is heroic and effective at stopping these people, they do get a sprinkle of cases they closed in the news and it's definitely good when they stop a guy with a house full of bombs, but they never look at what it took to get there and what they're letting pass under their noses in the process. see also the numerous entrapments of muslim men since 9/11. and https://www.wbur.org/radioboston/2017/06/15/tsarnaev-mcphee-fbi
― criminally negligible (harbl), Saturday, 21 August 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
harbl otm
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Sunday, 22 August 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link
(per usual)
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Sunday, 22 August 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link
There was a Twitter thread recently that said something like, "If a new guy joins your organization and immediately starts advocating for more radical and violent action than you've ever even discussed before, your new member is an FBI agent."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 22 August 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link
That was a popehat thred iirc
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 22 August 2021 05:33 (two years ago) link
Punching bag Richard Spencer broke and shunned by his townhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/05/us/politics/nazi-whitefish-charlottesville.html
― adam t. (abanana), Monday, 6 September 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
Good.
― "the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Monday, 6 September 2021 05:08 (two years ago) link
SOUL BROTHER #88 BEN SHAPIRO
This is an actual screenshot from Newsmax. I did not edit this. pic.twitter.com/zTevhmwMAH— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) April 20, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link
Funny, they could have filled that fourth 'black conservative' slot with Justice Clarence Thomas and not looked like idiots.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 20:56 (two years ago) link
And one of the three actually black conservatives there is fuckin' dead.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link
thought the bump would be about this article
https://vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets
― Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link
Turns out Peter Thiel is actually the source of Red Scare's entire $60k a month Patreon.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link
jesus fucking christm, Mencius Moldbug
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 22 April 2022 14:28 (two years ago) link
That VF article really shook me
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 22 April 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link
this kind of shit will never not fuck me up after reading it, what a bunch of monstrous losers
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 April 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link
one funny thing about the yarvin thing was a few months to a year ago I remember reading stuff online of dissatisfied substack subscribers or whatever fan payment service he was using saying he stopped posting on his promised schedule and instead was just sporadically sending them dating advice
― Bongo Jongus, Friday, 22 April 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link
this piece is just a further reiteration that the whole Red Scare, neo-right vibe is just "please don't tell anyone I was lame in high school" https://t.co/5kr2PdO2q0— sigh (@simonruff) April 21, 2022
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 22 April 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link
I suppose being a grifter and a being a true believer are not completely incompatible.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 April 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link
vomit
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 22 April 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link
(re subjects of that VF piece)
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 22 April 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link
I liked max's piece on this: https://maxread.substack.com/p/four-questions-about-the-new-right?s=r
― rob, Friday, 22 April 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link
def sounds like an alt-right rebrand to me, lots of throughlines from the pre-alt-right to the alt-right to whatever this is.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 April 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
I thought "Red Scare" was more dirtbag left? I've never heard it, but after doing some digging around about that pod, it kind of sounds like some of the new right and dirtbag left pods share from a common guest pool. All of these "thinkers" that seem to float around, go to conferences, do articles on each other, guest on each others podcasts, just seem like attention-seeking borderline grifters to me.
― beard papa, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:52 (two years ago) link
I think that speaks to why “grifter” isn’t the best term, as it suggests the person proffering the shit doesn’t truly believe it, but you can’t know that. Hell, plenty of people like start believing their own schtick if they indulge in it long enough, and it’s not really a grift if you have a true believes hawking slop to other true believers.
I think “hustle” is a better descriptor.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 23 April 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link
I’ve never listened but RS’s vibe always coded to me as try hard “transgressive” kill Whitey type hipsters, updated for the politics & soc media-sick postTrump era. like if they were 10 (15?) years older they’d have been posting dumb drug pics and talking abt giving herpes to Carlos D
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Saturday, 23 April 2022 01:31 (two years ago) link
Aren't they transgressives, or 'anti-establishment'?
I think the thing about 'grifting' is sort of misleading, if the aesthetic is what matters
― anvil, Saturday, 23 April 2022 09:34 (two years ago) link
Red Scare was never left in any way I can think of, the first and last ep I listened to was just about how Israel Does Nothing Wrong. They do run in some of the same circles as some of the leftist podcasters, and their original cause celebre was telling an Infowars reporter she has brain worms; of course they ended up posing for a photo op with Alex Jones.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 23 April 2022 10:33 (two years ago) link
Anyway yeah as others have said this "the right wing is cool now!" type of article has been doing the rounds since the alt right first started making headlines and its ability to shock me has faded somewhat, seems like the same niche of dorks every time.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 23 April 2022 10:38 (two years ago) link
Gavin McInnes’s allies are turning on him as it becomes increasingly clear the Proud Boys founder faked his “arrest.” https://t.co/kxNR5lEKpn— Will Sommer (@willsommer) August 31, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link
Guess this would go here?
I've been covering bad parts of the internet for long time now.For years, there was one site extremist researchers warned me not to cover because publicizing it would be dangerous.But it's time people know KiwiFarms—and how they're chasing political enemies around the world.— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) September 2, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 September 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
"Heil Josh the Cornlord"? What the fuck is the matter with these people?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link
he had to change his epithet from Josh the Cumlord
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link
God that is horrible. How do you change these people? My day was going find until being reminded that this side of the world exists
― hrep (H.P), Saturday, 3 September 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link
My god what a nightmare. I heard of kiwifarms for the first time last year when one of the people they harassed got arrested and it was in the news. I’m no lawyer but I don’t understand why this can’t be shut down—it seems to exist only to facilitate harassment, which is a crime.
― treeship., Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link