Enjoying James Cromwell much more than I though I would.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 July 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link
This show is so dumb but Im watching it anyway, thanks ilx
― calstars, Friday, 30 July 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
yr dumband yr welcome
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 July 2021 23:45 (two years ago) link
how could anyone not enjoy james cromwell
― mookieproof, Saturday, 31 July 2021 02:32 (two years ago) link
Sorry, he's always good but, and I know I am dating myself, I always have to get over the tendency to still think of him as Stretch Cunningham from All in the Family.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link
Is this a spoiler free thread or what. Cause I want to complain about stuff
― calstars, Saturday, 31 July 2021 12:03 (two years ago) link
Thought we were keeping it spoiler free, yes. Do you know how to use the Hidden Text tags?
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 12:24 (two years ago) link
Stretch Cunningham from _All in the Family_.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
i fear i created a monster and i accept blamd but dude you HAVE to stop posting about Counterpart itt now i beg you.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
I figured it was annoying, and I will stop now that I have received official notification, sorry.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
Push this link at oh-eight-hundred and burn for three seconds: COUNTERPART: Alternate History w/ Creepy Cold War Vibe
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
PRIME, you are go on that D2 injection
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
fuck hidden tags
― calstars, Saturday, 31 July 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
hardcore cringe at gordo’s son making moves on Baldwin wife
― calstars, Thursday, 5 August 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
2/3 of the way through S2 and drunk Tracy in space is a thing I never knew I needed #spacetruckinfuckyeah
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 04:55 (two years ago) link
Oh, hadn’t realized you hadn’t finished S2.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 05:14 (two years ago) link
taking it slow :)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 05:21 (two years ago) link
Good approach. I binged and crashed.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 05:29 (two years ago) link
S1E7 touches some deep place in my existence.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 05:38 (two years ago) link
Like various things I am interested in or can relate to were collapsed into one tissue-paper spacecraft-piercing meteorite.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 05:48 (two years ago) link
Several implausibilities in s2e10 cheapened the experience. the handshake changing everyone’s mind and Reagan diverting Air Force one to Moscow (really????) and Ed’s last minute decision to fire on his own payload (???). Not to mention the wife/kid storyline was shit…and the reveal that the Russian dude isn’t really interested in poor Margo… …. Feel like the overall quality of the show went slowly but steadily downhill.
― calstars, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
Is there an ETA for Season 3, anyone know?
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link
They're already filming but imagine a show like this has a ton of post-production. There's no release date yet but guesses are early 2022
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link
Really enjoyed the show but agree with calstars, Several implausibilities in s2e10 cheapened the experience
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link
I went with S2 and enjoyed parts of it a lot, including the boffo last two episodes but yeah. had a bunch of issues, same one calstars did. I even found a Reddit thread deploring the somewhat icky and probably unnecessary "Stacy's Mom" subplot.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
oh hey I watched this show in just over a week, and now I say things like "Negative, Flight" when I don't want to do something. It's been fun learning about space stuff (lots of time spent looking up FIDO/GUIDO/astrowives/Sea Dragon/etc on Wikipedia)* and as called out before it shares with H&CF the joy of following the characters hang out/invent the future/screw up over the course of decades. Every scene in mission control is great.
The broader story and character arcs had a tendency to veer between predictable and wtf with not much in the middle, esp in S2.
most bizarre part: wartless portrayal of Reagan, double bizarre given some of the show's other themes
best characters: Margo and Molly by a distance. Wayne is cool too.
Roll on S3, though I guess the timelines must be diverging totally now and I don't really care about the next generation (I will not be happy if Kelly+Danny are the next couple with relationship issues; Aleida is fine)
*One thing I learned while looking into Ed's accident while dogfighting with Gordo was that the top cause of death for astronauts in the 1960s was crashing your T-38 while travelling between bases
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Monday, 16 August 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
Good write-up. I like all the characters, I guess, although it did take me a while to warm up to Wayne, but if I had to pick two (PO2- Flight, give me a read on those PO2 levels!) I'd go with Gordo and Kelly, I think.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 August 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
Soillers galore, obv, but: https://www.vox.com/culture/2021/4/23/22396461/for-all-mankind-season-2-finale-recap-the-grey-review-ron-moore
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 August 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
Heh, interesting typo
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 August 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
S3 Predictions:
-Most of the cast will return having been aged up by sprinkling baby powder in their hair, and nothing else
-In contrast, millions in special FX will be spent on de-aging Michael Stipe to redo the "Man on the Moon" video
-Ron Moore will make a cameo as a young writer at a newsstand reading a Variety article about TNG launching as two Cylons look on
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
Lol!
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 August 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
Absolute favourite moment was Margo's toothbrush pen
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Monday, 16 August 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link
this is embarrassing but I knew literally nothing about Flight KAL 007 until this episode wikipedia read got me like O_O fukif anyone can recommend me a good book about it i’d be grateful
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 04:26 (two years ago) link
Lol had no idea that was a real event either
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link
the wikipedia article is bananashttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 05:16 (two years ago) link
also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 12:35 (two years ago) link
It truly is, 1983 was such a fucking minefield, I'm glad I was only 11 and all 'tra-la-la' not knowing what terrible cold war, human error shit was going on back then.
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
I had forgotten about the Soviets shooting down that Korean air lines flight. Question for season 3 (seems to be '93-'95), what event(s) from our timeline will show up in the FAM timeline? Soviet Union or Russia, the Balkan war, Bill Clinton becomes president, Hubble Space Telescope, tech/internet innovations?
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link
I guess Clinton will be knocking about doing something but the timelines should have diverged too much for any of the tech stuff to make sense (they already had video calls and electric cars in 1983, who needs AOL?). Oil presumably not so important so maybe Gulf War I didn't happen. USSR longevity is I guess the big question for the writers - they already didn't invade Afghanistan, does Chernobyl happen?
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link
Speaking of real events in the series, I was somewhat relieved to not to have to relive the Challenger tragedy in '86. I think the show hinted at it a couple of times -- made it seem as if it was about to happen -- but then diverged.
― ncxkd, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
yeah they obliquely reference it in the ep with the korean airliner is shot downwhen Margo says to the Russian dude about the Apollo Soyuz (paraphrasing terribly) “we discovered a flaw in the o-ring that it cracks when it gets cold” the subtext is the challenger disaster was averted
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link
There's an awesome power these alternate history shows can have in avoiding historical tragedies. Though it wasn't as striking as, say, what Tarantino did in Inglorious Basterds or Once Upon a Time, I loved that the Challenger explosion was avoided
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
KInd of hate alternate history unless it is done right, maybe that is a content-free statement, if so, sorry.
― Roffle Tolhurst (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
yeah i liked how they handled it herestill really impactful & moving without any real signposting
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link
wikipedia read got me like O_O fuk
if anyone can recommend me a good book about it i’d be grateful
I was 17, just graduated high school and have vivid memories of the KAL007 shootdown. IIRC, the plane was overdue but there was already suspicion that the Soviets had shot it down because they had already shot down another KAL jet in 1978. A week later Jeane Kirkpatrick gave her speech to the UN Security Council. I listened to it in the car on I-40 somewhere between Barstow and Ludlow - I couldn't decide if I wanted to keep going home or turn around and hang out another couple of days with my stoner rockclimbing friends who were out at Kelso Dunes. I went home, but I was convinced that this was going to lead to some sort of retaliatory first strike and then an all-out nuke war. I was in OC - even the Laguna Beach commie hippies demanded bloodthirsty revenge.
Weird associative memory: I saw the Talking Heads at the Pacific Amp the night of the shootdown. I was listening to them constantly through this time.
The Air Crash Investigations episode on KAL 007 is well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYYqcDUDc44
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 August 2021 05:51 (two years ago) link
fuck, I don't want to sound like I'm age shaming, but as I watched the episode and realized that Tom was on a Korean Air jet I was seriously "oh shit, they're really going there!"
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 August 2021 06:01 (two years ago) link
As for future events? It's difficult to say, because everything that FAM season 2 has portrayed so far is performatively better than what aerospace engineering and NASA was proposing in the 1990s. I'd love to see the Star Raker make an appearance, but it's a 1978 proposal. After thirty years of a gung ho and well-funded NASA, spin-off tech can presumably be anything but I suspect the collapse of the Soviet Union (maybe the Mars mission will hasten it?) and the internet will be in season 3 somewhere.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 August 2021 06:11 (two years ago) link
Long time since I've seen it, but I liked how Dark Skies worked itself into history (especially the UFO shooting down Francis Gary Powers). Too bad season 2 never happened.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 August 2021 06:16 (two years ago) link
Get the Project Orion variation Freeman Dyson was working on calculations for and go to Alpha Centauri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)
}At 0.1c, Orion thermonuclear starships would require a flight time of at least 44 years to reach Alpha Centauri, not counting time needed to reach that speed (about 36 days at constant acceleration of 1g or 9.8 m/s2). At 0.1c, an Orion starship would require 100 years to travel 10 light years. The astronomer Carl Sagan suggested that this would be an excellent use for current stockpiles of nuclear weapons."
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 August 2021 07:30 (two years ago) link
Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 August 2021 07:31 (two years ago) link