The "In This House" sign is from Madison, WI, which is indeed deep blue but is not a suburb
https://mashable.com/article/in-this-house-we-believe-black-lives-matter-kindness-is-everything-sign
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
everything between the hudson and mississippi is an outer suburb of new york to me.
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
what did i just signal with that quip?
why does he have his own flag?
it's a merchandising opportunity
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
xxpost new borad descript
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
I guess the gen x-er in me just finds any sort of "message" or political sign/flag around one's home to be like soooo lame man.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link
I don't want to be misconstrued as caping for these signs that are ugly as fuck and stupid, but one of the most reliable tropes about ilx is watching people make absolutely asinine assumptions about people's interior lives and thoughts based on a sample size of a grand total of one outdoor yard sign.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link
It's the equivalent of the dipshits that hear you reference one band, one time and spend the entire rest of their social interactions with you assuming you are said band's global #1 fan. Jesus, grant people a little more depth of thought for once in your lives.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
Ugh. I already regret venting my frustration here, but that simple minded shit drives me nuts.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
Notice that it's always negative assumptions that are made. I do it too (tho I'd like to think I scold myself upon reflection), it's like it's hardwired into the human mind.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
this is a clearer example of the kind of thing i think some people were trying to get at (?)
This fucking country, man pic.twitter.com/e6KWztfVYU— Michael Oswell (@_MichaelOswell_) August 30, 2021
― Left, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
stating the far too obvious the sign/flag thing absolutely depends on who is displaying it in what context
― Left, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link
Agreed. For example, out on the road today I saw a BLM sticker on a Cadillac.
― Robert Cray-Cray (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link
hippie-signalling? performative grooviness? is this anything
― Left, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
i can see youyour virtue signaling in the sun
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link
I can tell youMy virtue will still be strongAfter the affordable housing is gone
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
One time I saw an obviously wealthy boomer couple driving a black BMW SUV and the license plate said ZNFNDL
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link
tipple signalling
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
IMDRNK would be a funny vanity plate
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 August 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link
ILXOR
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link
automatic police stop because they're drunk on their own posts
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link
Facebook is basically like 3,000 of these lawn signs per day, on a variety of topics
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
my ban is up and while I have started posting here and there again, I barely read it at all. it's bliss.
^virtue-signaling
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link
I don't even own a virtue
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link
Suddenly flashing back to the early-2010s talking point that Occupy Wall Street was just guys acting like activists to “pick up chicks,” which seems like the start of some of this.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link
Do people think no one got laid at '60s rallies
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
I think I had a breakthrough today, when I observed that the term "virtue signaling" would never ever in a million years be applied to people who post on the internet about taking down elite pedophile cabals
― Nature's promise vs. Simple truth (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link
It’s essentially missionary work. Humans follow patterns.
― Kim, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, August 31, 2021 1:36 PM (yesterday)
and this is why I love ILX
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, August 31, 2021 5:08 PM (yesterday)
yeah, that's along the lines of what I was trying to get at about "virtue signaling" being a subset of performativity. Like Facebook is 99.5% performativity and the rest is "what's the cheapest dentist" and "reliable Volvo mechanic?" But only some of that performativity is virtue signaling -- the 3000 lawn signs.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link
I'm more forgiving of those sorts of signs since it's better than the now apparently-acceptable alternative of being a proud fascist.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
these signs only appear in deep blue suburbs.
uh no
see above
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
rejected "Boys of Summer" lyrics I have loved
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
Was also thinking - the ritualized land acknowledgments at meetings that go on to say nothing about indigenous people or their issues - like, who is this for? What is it doing?
― JoeStork, Tuesday, August 31, 2021 11:14 AM (yesterday)
otm! I was thinking about this the other day, actually. Like, "land acknowledgements" are inherently location-specific and context-specific. But what seems to have happened in practice, is that progressive groups in some regions have adopted it because "everyone else is doing it" and not really interrogating the specifics of the history of the indigenous peoples where they are vs. the initial colonialists, and subsequent conquests.
It reminds me of the George Floyd protests, where in Minneapolis, the protesters looted, smashed and burned a Target store. ... And then when the protests spread to other parts of the country, the protesters attacked Target stores, because that's what Minneapolis did. And I'm not saying this in the context of "damaging corporate property = bad" ... but in the tension/juxtaposition of the tendency of "property crime" in the context of protests being spontaneous and autonomous
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, August 31, 2021 3:36 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
is this satire
― ✖, Friday, 3 September 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link
requesting a dramatic adulatory mashable article about every single post in why do i hate that artist thing that people keep posting on my facebook so much? why am i such a jerk?
they are bad because they reduce politics to just things you believe inside of you and not things that are actually accomplished. that's why they can put signs about zoning issues next to them with no understanding why it's wrong. individually the phrases are very empty. like an oil company geologist and an environmental scientist can both believe "science is real." anti-maskers yell "follow the science" all the time. it isn't just hypocritical.― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, August 31, 2021 1:23 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, August 31, 2021 1:23 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
booming post
― jaymc, Friday, 3 September 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link
these things should be *performative* in the non-performative-wokeness sense of the word, they can be to some extent, they resonate, they do some work, for better and/or worse, despite/because whatever self-interest from various parties. fuck turning it all into just vibes and content and all that bullshit. most of these are solid values, i think, some of them as solid as you can get right now. if they're just for being put on up a wall somewhere as some kind of concession in lieu of the resourses necessary to actually back them up then they're bullshit and the people who believe in them should use every capacity to make them not bullshit
― Left, Friday, 3 September 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link
basically if or when virtue signalling works we can and should use it. because it's not great but it seems to do something
― Left, Friday, 3 September 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link
when it doesn't, or when it stops working, it's bullshit
― Left, Friday, 3 September 2021 03:42 (three years ago) link
Left and harbl otm
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link
Like, this collective community center I've recently gotten involved in has meetings where at the beginning of the meeting we go around and state our preferred pronouns and say if we have accessibility needs. And sometimes it seems like ... hey, there are only 5 of us here, and we all know each other, and it feels kinda absurd, but you know, it's a good practice to have. Same with thanking everyone and expressing appreciation for emotional labor ... it's nice to feel thanked and appreciated.
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
are the preferred pronouns optional? I feel like asking people to commit to those can put people in a position where they have to decide on them and in a public setting when they may not be ready and comfortable.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 3 September 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
there are a lot of she/they or he/they pronouns stated ...in addition to people who are solely "they" and trans people who are "she" (no they)
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link
tbh I think pronoun declarations make a substantial minority of trans ppl feel uncomfortable, but most of that subset (myself among them) have come to the conclusion that it’s the best of the universally imperfect options presented by the realities of language and society.being questioning/in early transition is deeply awkward, period, and neither being asked about yr pronouns nor having them assumed are a lot of fun, but erring on the side of self-determination is the best we can do. I will say I prefer a pile of pins/badges to the “go around the room” ritual; feels more casual, and getting to be at all casual about gender is such a rare luxury when yr in that headspace.
― nicole, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
incredibly relatable
― Left, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
"Virtue signaling" is much like calling the Democratic Party the "Democrat" party. Wingnuts do this thinking that their ability to call the left names constitutes proof that they're smarter than 'em.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link
when your lawn sign comes with caveats
They covered up “no human is illegal” pic.twitter.com/LKtKEoIFOE— fourth and 5.5 inches (@moleburps) September 19, 2021
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 20 September 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link
Reading the "preferred pronouns" discussion upthread, this is something I'm thinking about a lot as I'm teaching French to middle schoolers, quite a few of whom use nonbinary pronouns. My classes usually involve a lot of talking to and about each other - like, ask each other these questions and then report on what you found out! So I'm now trying to figure out the best way to bring French nonbinary pronouns (which are still very new and not officially recognized but do exist) into the classroom, and also the best way to make sure we all state our pronouns when we're doing an activity like that so the nonbinary kids don't have to deal with being misgendered all the time. But every time I talk about nonbinary pronouns - and you do kind of have to talk about it because gender-neutral language in French is way harder than it is in English - I feel like I'm probably making those kids feel uncomfortable. I wish there were a better way but I don't think there is.
― Lily Dale, Monday, 20 September 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link