9/11 was an inside job by Jonathan Safran Foer so he'd have something to write about
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
Leo Phoenix lives
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
Hi VG, I wasn't offended, I just get very...uh...polemical about how the reverberations of this event have quite literally led to the deaths of millions. 3100 people dead is a horror, of course, but millions of people? Unbearable to think about, but we must.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 13 September 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkSMSbFV_q0
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link
shameful lol
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link
so why did saudi arabia participate/primarily drive the attack? i am completely ignorant. certain faction of religious zealots in the govt? trying to get us more mired in the middle east to aserve their interests?
I don't think there are good answers. The long game of inciting a war that eventually gets us to take out Saddam (only to be replaced with a state in Iran's orbit?) feels like a big stretch. I'd guess more along the lines of some religious radicals wanted to do it and the people above them couldn't afford to piss them off/stop them.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link
Norm Macdonald setting up Andy Dick to laugh at a 9/11 joke... 😂😂😂#NormMacDonald #911remembrance #NeverForget911 pic.twitter.com/LGZcGdX2qy— Zombie🤬Sexbot (@ZombieSexbot) September 12, 2018
― pplains, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link
I don't know if this is just the media bubble that I've created for myself, or possibly because I'm in the UK rather than the US, but I feel like these days, about 90% of the time when I see a reference to 9/11 it's in the context of an intentionally edgy/bad-taste joke? Or that 9/11 has become almost the default go-to subject for tasteless jokes (maybe the Challenger space shuttle disaster filled a similar place for an earlier generation?) It's maybe a 'safe' subject for edgy jokes because it's obviously inappropriate to joke about but it's not obviously racist/sexist/ableist etc?
I remember people I knew making bad-taste 9/11 jokes almost straight away (I was 16 at the time, so maybe my peer group was more likely to contain people inclined to make offensive try-hard jokes?), but in media anything less than absolute solemnity seemed verboten for quite a while - it's maybe the memory of that period when it forbidden to openly joke about that is why there are so many jokes now? I wonder a bout people who are too young to remember it first-hand, if they'll encounter 9/11 primarily as a thing that people tell jokes about (I feel this was my experience with the Challenger disaster?)
idk if Giuliani's descent into disgrace and buffoonery has anything to do with it (I know a lot of people always realised he was a buffoon, but he used to get a lot of respect across the centre-left and centre-right as well, right?) Or more generally, the Iraq war and the 'war on terror' more generally where there's a consensus view that sees them in retrospect as follies?
― soref, Friday, 4 February 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link
9/11 conspiracies and 'jet fuel can't melt steel beams' must be another factor in making it into a farcical subject? or just how the contemporary internet immediately makes anything and everything into a joke
― soref, Friday, 4 February 2022 13:14 (two years ago) link
Can confirm, my 1st grade class started making Challenger jokes almost immediately.
― Jeff, Friday, 4 February 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link
yeah I think how the attack was leveraged for just the dumbest and most evil stuff in the succeeding years definitely contributes. as does our response to “a 9/11 every day” in the Covid era.https://ifunny.co/picture/the-flu-kills-more-people-every-year-lol-CMNd2bdq7?s=cl
― concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Friday, 4 February 2022 14:32 (two years ago) link
eh fuck ithttps://img.ifunny.co/images/eb0dac5efff12b9e090cd7779805afed151fb46cadbde1b4f9de7b76bed5cbc2_1.jpg
― concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Friday, 4 February 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link
yeah I think how the attack was leveraged for just the dumbest and most evil stuff in the succeeding years definitely contributes.
Correct. Meanwhile the right wing have gone for conspiracy shit so much in the ensuing decades that their apetite for harping on an event where the conspiratorial pov is not to their advantage isn't very strong.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 4 February 2022 14:41 (two years ago) link
i think the constant solemnity in the media mentioned cultivated the urge, coupled with the growing cynicism that comes with being lied to 100% of the time by the president as he starts more and more wars
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 4 February 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link
I did lol when I heard someone refer to the burning of the Fox Christmas tree as "Pine/11"
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 4 February 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link
I will say that the 9/11 jokes in my last book always went over really well— even when I read from it in Lower Manhattan.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 4 February 2022 15:52 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7mvikSQteQ
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 4 February 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link
the real 9/11
pic.twitter.com/Rd4sT5kd4Z— Right Wing Cope (@RightWingCope) February 4, 2022
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 4 February 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link