Friday the 13th: Jason Goes to POLL

let's watch both *slams Budweiser down*

Jason X, Moonraker

i'm rewatching Halloween (2018), once I finish that, I will probably throw Jason X on. heard too much about it to put off any longer :)

halloween 4 is a good movie. halloween 5 is a cursed movie, much like friday part v. halloween 6 is like... a total misfire that is fun to watch but it also sort of sucks, much like jason goes to hell

halloween resurrection is fucking hilarious

like the moment where there's two Michael Myers walking around and for a moment you're like OMG, this is how he's immortal! he franchised serial killing, like Gallagher with his comedy show, he hires multiple Michael Myers to do the killing, omg this is brill

and then one of them pulls his mask off and he's Busta Rhymes trolling the people on his reality show.

weak.

Yes, I will get around to Jason X sometime this season.

Halloween takes are OTM. 3 is spectacular, 1 & 2 are fine, the rest of the OG sequels are zzzzzzzzzzzz. Most worthless of the Big Three slasher franchises, easily. Will also watch the 2018 sequel sometime soon, though.

resurrection is the hellraiser sequel of the halloween franchise, totally unrelated movie with michael myers grafted onto it

the dude at the end of Halloween 3 is kinda me at work every day

"STOP IT! STOP IT! STOOOOOOOOPPPP ITTTT"

(director's cut of the zombie halloween 2 is astonishing)

the problem I have with early-mid 2000s slasher films is that it reminds you how lame bro culture was back then.

fuckin half expected Michael Myers to sip on a Zima

Halloween III is definitely unique. I wouldn't necessarily say it rules though. I think a lot of people try to defend it because of the backlash. It's like Phantasm meets Howard the Duck meets IT (1990) and probably a few other things.

The poster is one of the best movie posters of all time though. The comic book series Stray Dogs just used the poster art as a variant cover for their tpb.

https://media.keycollectorcomics.com/media/b1629464859608s-l1600__3_.jpg

lol, I xposted right over Brad's Halloween opinions. I rewatched Halloween 4 a couple weeks back and I still don't think I've awoken from my coma. Sorry, Brad.

The Loomis turn in the remake is one of the all-time groaner contrivances.

listen, if you fall asleep to a movie, i consider that a good thing. the thing that rocks about halloween 4 is the autumnal vibe is the strongest in that one

the michael myers mask sucks ass but i like pretty much everything else about it

there are a few undercooked ideas in Halloween 3 that keep it from being perfect for me, but Kupfer's entire family being killed is an astonishing critique of unchecked capitalism and it rules

Fun fact: I have read the novelizations of both Friday the 13th part 6 and Halloween 4.

also I love that Helloween's first EP samples that annoying assed "8 more days to Halloween song" before the song kicks in

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Jamie walked down the stairs, sobbing. She was wearing her uncle's mask, and holding a bloody knife.

Loomis did not even need a moment for the truth to sink in.

Jamie...

...was on drugs.

Immediately, he pulled out his pistol and shot Jamie dead.

Not in Reagan's America, you don't.

halloween 2 (rob zombie)
halloween
halloween 3: season of the witch
halloween h20
halloween 4: the revenge of michael myers
halloween 2
halloween (rob zombie)
halloween 5: the cookie woman
halloween: resurrection
halloween (2018) (sorry)

Trailer for the 3rd in the new Halloween trilogy will have a slowed down/creepy kids’ choir version of the “8 more days till Halloween” silver shamrock song y/n

the editing of halloween (2018) is very bad and i hate the conception of laurie's character and the humor seems flown in from another movie and punctures the mood

Huh guess I need to see the second Zombie one. I didn't hate his first one, but never heard much enthusiasm for the second.

I find him to be a frustrating director, I love about half of his stuff and hate the others. I haven't seen 3 From Hell, 31 or Halloween 2 though.

jon: seek out the director's cut of zombie's halloween 2, which is i think the default streaming version. it's a major exploration of laurie's ptsd

Will do! Was trying to decide what to watch this weekend.

it is filmed in 16mm and looks so gnarly and grim and the moonlight looks like its emanating from the cover of a black metal album

listen, if you fall asleep to a movie, i consider that a good thing. the thing that rocks about halloween 4 is the autumnal vibe is the strongest in that one

also if you like lords of salem, most likely you'll find a lot to like in halloween 2

huh I just saw Lords of Salem and did enjoy it.

the autumnal vibe

Like when Loomis is poking around that desert gas station in (checks notes) Illinois? I love the part where the babysitter is looking for the little girl in the darkened streets (caused by the power outage, which was an awesome kill).

the power outage is the other best part of that film

also if you like lords of salem, most likely you'll find a lot to like in halloween 2

Yes! Definitely a top tier Zombie film, I love it.

i only like that and Devil's Rejects

31 made me mad enough that I left 30 minutes in

and I was on a plane

i looove 31 but acknowledge that no one normal would ever think that

Jason Goes to Hell is hilarious for deciding to introduce new mystical mythology that will never again appear in any other Friday film - ooooh a mystical DAGGER, the heart is Jason, Jason is the heart!

some all-powerful heart couldn't help him SWIM BETTER, lil punk

Robert Campbell : I'm going to say a couple of words to you and I want you to say the first thing that comes into your mind.
Creighton Duke : Okay.
Robert Campbell : Jason Voorhees.
Creighton Duke : That makes me think of a little girl in a pink dress sticking a hot dog through a doughnut.

Halloween briefly went the mystical route as well. Druids, iirc.

I loved Lords of Salem and Devil's Rejects is probably the best whatever that is that it can be. But those Halloween movies were so unpleasant, imo. Well, I think the first one is the one I saw. Maybe? Anyway, there's only so much of Zombie's ugly hillbilly grunge I can take.

i like but don't love the first zombie halloween. i'm not married to the idea of michael as this unknowable embodiment of evil so i think glimpsing his actual home life as filtered through zombie's particular tobe hooper thing is really effective in setting the scene. the second half of the film is just halloween but less scary and gorier and i'm like... it's fine. ugh now i want to watch it again

the ending whips, though, that's for sure

I hated the Druidish Cult of Thorn shit, weakened Michael Myers as a character completely

it's extremely stupid, which is why i find it hilarious and fun

cf. the mystery man wandering through halloween 5, who they hadn't even invented the cult of thorn around yet because the producer just wanted a mystery man in the fucking movie, it's so awesome

my problem of the first half of the first Zombie Halloween is that I didn't buy that Michael's home life would have driven him to that, as depicted. yeah, it was dysfunctional ,but like, there has to be more - Ed Gein was unusually obsessed with his mother, she used to spank his penis, preached to her kids about evil from the Bible every day in histrionic fashion, had few friends because of his mother's domineering attitude. yeah Michael had an nasty, creepy father-in-law in this one, and his mother was a stripper, but she was a much more caring parent than most serial killers had. didn't help that the dialogue was soooooo bad in those scenes.

and yet those were the *best* scenes in the movie, once they got to the 'beginning' of the original Halloween, I aws already exhausted and they had to rush through the beats.

the other annoying part about Resurrection, OOOOOH wow we found all this evidence that the parents were barbarically abusing Michael and lol it's all faked by producer BUSTA RHYMES again.

all of the best ideas for the movie were LOL GOTCHA trolling

i mean slasher movies from the 80s also just seem a bit tamer because they used to threaten X ratings for much more benign shit back then, so a lot of the more OTT stuff got shelved or 'edited' to cut away or were merely implied.

this is true to an extent but I feel like I've seen other 80s slashers with a lot more gore, it almost feels punitive, like the mpaa went extra hard on F13 to make an example out of them or something

Besides Halloween III I've only seen the first Halloween once, and like 20+ years ago, and remember finding it boring. It's on my list to rewatch this month, and this thread makes me feel OK abt skipping the rest of the sequels

as far as franchises go I'm planning to finish out F13 6-8, then Child's Play/Chucky 2-5, then Phantasm 1-4. Are the Hellraiser sequels past 2 worth it?

3 isn't, and I stopped there.

I feel like I've seen other 80s slashers with a lot more gore, it almost feels punitive, like the mpaa went extra hard on F13 to make an example out of them or something

hellraiser 3 has the dj cenobyte with a cd bisecting his head, plus the absolutely inexplicable seedy metal club, plus the best character in the first three movies, terri. it's like, awful, but there's a lot to recommend about it

i saw bloodline and there's a good movie in there somewhere, but they didn't make it