EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

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stick to telling me who's going to win my state's senate race, Nate, and bow the fuck out

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link

were there any schoolchildren in iraq

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:17 (two years ago) link

considering how many educations were disrupted in iraq and the surrounding region we must conclude that the iraq war was worse than the iraq war

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

this guy dumb

rob, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

he has suffered from learning loss

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:30 (two years ago) link

doing asynchronous days with my kid were my personal Afghanistan

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link

Nate's desire to be seen as a Rational Thinker unencumbered by foolish human biases has led him to be overly skeptical of some views that he, in his detachment, can judge as extreme and/or irrational. I think COVID mitigation measures fall into that category for him because it is unfortunately easy to view them through the lens of political and emotional bias (i.e., driven by anxious liberals).

jaymc, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link

remember when

This is not unique to coronavirus, but it feels like the people who know the *most* about something often express more uncertainty and doubt than people who have some adjacent knowledge but fall short of being subject-matter experts.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 13, 2020

I'm in the high-risk zone for having adjacent, sophomoric knowledge myself (know statistics, have written about epidemiology) which is why I'm mostly trying to shut up about coronavirus. But I will say be wary of overconfidence and trust folks who express uncertainty/doubt.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 13, 2020

symsymsym, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link

Someone tell Nate a good way to avoid the appearance of being encumbered by foolish human biases would be to not to double down on making grotesque racist equivalencies

rob, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

Why didn't the morons who called the Steel Dossier worse than the Iraq War get this treatment?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

(citation needed)

symsymsym, Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link

now that nate silver has compared remote learning to the iraq war, matty is hard at work writing a 3000-word blog post in favor of it

— 𝖙𝖎𝖒𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖞💀𝖋𝖆𝖚𝖘𝖙 (@crulge) January 6, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link

otm

nate silver's Very Bad Tweet perfectly reveals how the school reopening moral panic has worked: people say "we have to do cost-benefit analysis on covid mitigations," which sounds very reasonable, and then they say "okay, let's assume the cost of school closures is infinity"

— Will Stancil (@whstancil) January 6, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:23 (two years ago) link

And, teachers are expendable.

DJI, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:26 (two years ago) link

xxp yeah no one ever roasts Taibbi on Twitter or ILX

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link

xxp oh sorry, I thought you were saying that people were comparing the allegations in the dossier to the war in Iraq. Yes, that Taibbi column is pretty dumb!

symsymsym, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:41 (two years ago) link

That substack thing doesn’t appear to say Russiagate was worse than the Iraq War, though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link

it does say Russiagate is WMDs times a million!

symsymsym, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

specifically stupid times a million

"If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included."

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:46 (two years ago) link

Taibbi's 'media criticism' schtick deserves one giant jackoff motion at this point but it has about the same relationship to "remote schools are the equivalent of 500k dead people" as a gnat does to an elephant.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link

no comment necessary pic.twitter.com/08sRqJaaei

— austerity is theft (@wideofthepost) January 15, 2022

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 January 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

lmao

The ape pictures from Bored Ape Yacht Club are pretty cool just evaluated as pictured. They’ve shown a lot of range here within the confines of the basic concept.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 15, 2022

rob, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:36 (two years ago) link

some regular Andy Borhols

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I like Les Miserables too (especially the 1998 film adaptation!) but how many people do we think are in prison for this loaf of bread to feed your family scenario? https://t.co/ejcqeJUU1x

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) March 25, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 25 March 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link

In the tweet he quoted, Matt had three choices to respond to:

"if you sleep on the street or steal a loaf of bread or cross a border to escape violence against your family, the law will come for you"

His choice describes him well.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 25 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

"especially the 1998 film adaptation"

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 25 March 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

Aimless otm even before you read the replies from public defenders citing cases where clients were arresting for stealing a candy bar, a can of baked beans, and a salami

rob, Friday, 25 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

The dividing line between the middle class and the upper middle class. https://t.co/rKxCyv1gHn

— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) March 28, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 28 March 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

the lower middle class will cut you

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 28 March 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link

“Talk Shit Get Hit” was the original slogan of the IWW.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 28 March 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

this fuckin' guy

I mean at this point it’s hard to say — my hypothesis is that progressives spending days freaking out about Musk has pushed him further to the right.

Does that seem crazy to you?

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) April 27, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

my hypothesis is that Musk does what Musk thinks is good for Musk and whatever politics might be reflected in his public statements have nothing to do with Musk having political convictions.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

I think the people catastrophizing about contraception or interracial marriage being next after Roe sincerely believe it. But I'm sorry, I cannot take this seriously.

— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) May 5, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:14 (two years ago) link

The net effect of overturning Griswold is that contraception will continue to be legal in all 50 states. In a few states, it might become harder to get certain IUDs and the morning after pill, but even that is dubious.

— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) May 5, 2022

i mean sure i think they will do it but

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:36 (two years ago) link

and this idiot is still beloved by rightist intelligensia:

Planned Parenthood was founded not simply as an organization for limiting the size of families in general but more particularly to reduce the reproduction of the black population in the United States, as Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger herself noted.

— Thomas Sowell (@ThomasSowell) May 4, 2022

And the Dems were once the party of segregation!!!!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:44 (two years ago) link

The rhetorical move McArdle is doing here is to verbally suggest that the "catastrophe" is merely speculative and has to do with birth control or Loving v. Texas, rather than the actually imminent catastrophe re Roe that she would rather not talk about.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:55 (two years ago) link

(Also she carefully skips over the most frequent "what's next????" question, which is Obergefell. I wonder why?)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:55 (two years ago) link

lord knows I hate Sowell, but that isn't his personal twitter; it's an account that tweets out quotes from his books (which I suppose could be him actually). That one is from 2006. I'm sure context doesn't make it any more compelling a fact, but still

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:06 (two years ago) link

it is very sad to think there is a guy out there who is a big enough thomas sowell fan to create such a project

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:23 (two years ago) link

men will literally set up a thomas sowell quotes account instead of going to therapy amirite

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:24 (two years ago) link

yes and lol

rob, Thursday, 5 May 2022 13:26 (two years ago) link

oh, I'm sure the effects of any of these things being overturned will never filter up to these columnists. Remember Welfare Reform? They said it would be a catastrophe, and then we did it and never heard a peep about it from any of our friends.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

Finding out King Buzzo is a Sowellhead was a tough one. Next up, Keith Morris singing the praises of Ben Shapiro.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 5 May 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link

she will not stop

Yes, I think there's a lot to work out, but in practice, I'm skeptical that a lot of prosecutors are going to want to probe into a grieving woman's miscarriage; the optics are horrific.

— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) May 5, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

ma'am do you know what prosecutors are

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

Oh, Ms McCurdle, are you familiar with the concept of selective law enforcement, especially used as a tool for intimidating poor people and people of color? If not, let me suggest you start living in the country where you currently reside, instead of the fairyland inside your head.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 6 May 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link

overzealous prosecutors? in MY uterus?!?

mh, Friday, 6 May 2022 03:09 (two years ago) link

He’s so good at this, the perfect post to drive engagement by people explaining how you’re wrong.

I know you go more viral with indignant takes accusing Dems of being top to bottom political failures, but in the real world what’s so striking about losing Roe is that in almost ever other policy area the status quo has either moved left or stayed steady over the last 25 years.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 5, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link

I know the Right really thinks we live in communist Russia now bc they have to see a biracial family on car insurance commercials now, but I’m starting to think a lot of commentariat libs believe these things are a practical stand-in for actual leftward movement. I literally can’t think of one thing outside of Oberfell where the broadly defined “Left” can point to a single noteworthy victory in my lifetime.

I know you go more viral with indignant takes accusing Dems of being top to bottom political failures, but in the real world what’s so striking about losing Roe is that in almost ever other policy area the status quo has either moved left or stayed steady over the last 25 years.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 5, 2022

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link


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