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how can I cast it to my pod?

(my annotation was merely meant to be helpful to anyone who did not know this fact, to save them potential frustration on clicking.)

beepy fridges (sic), Saturday, 16 April 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link

Didn't realize till today this was tomorrow night. I'm rewatching the last episode in advance.

clemenza, Monday, 18 April 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link

Another season of rhea seehorn (and the rest of the awesome cast) works for me

calstars, Monday, 18 April 2022 07:45 (two years ago) link

I had no idea it was on this week! Thanks for the heads up

paolo, Monday, 18 April 2022 09:33 (two years ago) link

I remembered all the Lalo-related stuff pretty well from the last episode, and I also remembered Kim's chilling imitation of Jimmy in her last shot. But I'd forgotten the plan Jimmy and Kim were kicking around, so that'll probably be an early focus.

clemenza, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:51 (two years ago) link

watching the premiere

this Kim/Saul dynamic is interesting

as if the image and persona are partially her working out her own bits of wish fulfillment but… Jimmy’s going to have to live it

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 01:36 (two years ago) link

What kind of hijinx will those crazy nut-nuts get up to this season I wonder

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:05 (two years ago) link

oh god Kim is definitely part of the formation of the Saul persona and she starts as the hardest part

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:30 (two years ago) link

glad to see Odenkirk naked

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:35 (two years ago) link

Too much anticipation, probably, but for me, a so-so episode. Best thing I thought was the return of the Kettlemans.

Two things that confused me: 1) The opening. I think it was supposed to evoke Citizen Kane, but was that far into the future, well beyond Breaking Bad? If it was, that's a real leap from Cinnabon; 2) All the stuff with the safe and the ID at Mike's place.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:38 (two years ago) link

Ignacio's place, I mean.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:39 (two years ago) link

1) That was Saul Goodman’s estate auction? Probably contemporary with the Cinnabon stuff where he’s assumed dead or at least missing and with debtors so they auction off his stuff
2) Nacho’s place. Wheels within wheels where they needed to plant a false direction in Nacho’s safe and make sure he didn’t have anything incriminating to Gus in there. So they restocked it with the exact same items, but I think Mike pocketed the Canadian i.d. for Nacho’s dad. Bets to leave him out of it.

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link

the envelope is some sort of misdirection and they had to assume others knew what the safe looked like

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link

All of that makes sense, thanks. One thing I noticed was that Hector looked Gus right in the eye; nitpicking, but that may be inconsistent with BB, where Gus always made a big deal about Hector making eye contact with him, like it was something he could never bring himself to do.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:50 (two years ago) link

It did seem very out of character, and maybe this is the time he does it (and that creepy handshake!) where he gives away the game (Lalo lives!) and he never tries it again. Gus is just too good at reading him

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:52 (two years ago) link

Yeah but the envelope that Mike planted had the phone number of the motel Nacho was binding at, no?

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:52 (two years ago) link

-hiding-

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:53 (two years ago) link

I do appreciate the implication Fring might screw up, played out in his creepy right hand man challenging Mike and having to stand down. CRHM has a known timeline, I think

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:54 (two years ago) link

xp maybe? That’d make no sense unless I missed something and Nacho would have a list of motels he’d hide at in his safe. I think they found the motel organically

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:55 (two years ago) link

I’d assume the envelope would be non-obvious false leads and red herrings for Gus and Mike to use, nothing that’d play out immediately

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:57 (two years ago) link

No I thought the phone number of the motel was written on the paper in the envelope—the bald gangster guy (Don Juan?) calls it and hangs up when the motel answers.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:58 (two years ago) link

I’d assume the envelope would be non-obvious false leads and red herrings for Gus and Mike to use, nothing that’d play out immediately
yeah I thought that too but see above.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:59 (two years ago) link

One last thing. I assumed at first that the whole anti-Semitic charade was how they were going to get at Howard, but was the whole purpose of that just to get into the clubhouse so Saul could get the locker number? Seemed like overkill--there must have been some other way.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 03:59 (two years ago) link

I’d have to revisit it! Didn’t catch it

Still wondering if there was a cloaked Kurtwood Smith in Robocop reference in the scene where Mike is telling the two women in Nacho’s apartment to scram

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:00 (two years ago) link

xp he wanted to plant the fake coke in the locker but ended up dropping it

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:01 (two years ago) link

One last thing. I assumed at first that the whole anti-Semitic charade was how they were going to get at Howard, but was the whole purpose of that just to get into the clubhouse so Saul could get the locker number? Seemed like overkill--there must have been some other way.


I was thinking the anti-Semitic ruckus was an improv when the bank guy recognized him and tried to get him thrown out.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:11 (two years ago) link

Injustice that I have to wait 3.5 more hours here in Australia to watch this. What is the point of being Australian besides getting things early?

I should not be in this thread yet

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:29 (two years ago) link

2 episodes? Nice.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 05:20 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_Hwr_ZCic

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 01:05 (two years ago) link

When the Kettlemans chase down Saul/Jimmy to sign the contracts, Craig calls out "Mr. Goodman!" Was that a mistake? They don't know him by that name, even if he just reintroduced himself like that (can't remember if he mentioned it or not).

Evan, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link

I was also confused by the safe scene.

Why did they replace it with another safe but put the same stuff back?
If that envlope did have the number on it for Nachos hiding place (which is how I read that bit), that meant Mike was throwing Nacho in the shit which makes no sense.
So who was directing the guy watching Nacho from across the road? Was that Mike too? He got called immediately after Nacho called what I assumed was Mike and said he was running away.

I made the mistake of trying to watch both eps at once with a severe eye strain headache/dry eye attack and could barely keep my eyes on the screen which did not help.

I assume the Kettlemen couple were from S1 or something? I came into this show just before Jimmys brother died so I prob missed that.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:25 (two years ago) link

Also: the scene where Jimmy fucks up and refers to his client as "Lallo" is going to come back to bite his arse right?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:29 (two years ago) link

I think the Kettlemens were in the first or second episode--early in the first season, anyway. There was a great scene where Jimmy tracked them down hiding in the mountains, with Bobby Bare's "Find Out What's Happening" playing on the soundtrack.

That "Mr. Goodman!" does sound like an oversight.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:37 (two years ago) link

Simon Grim shuffling through his day job at the country club

calstars, Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link

Trayce, the reason they had to go through all the trouble with the safe was because in order to plant the envelope inside they had to drill their way in, so they needed a fresh safe to make it look normal again.

Evan, Thursday, 21 April 2022 03:10 (two years ago) link

Oh god, of course. I really wasn't following things well with the headache I had going :(

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2022 04:00 (two years ago) link

The person Nacho was talking to on the phone, and who had the spy in th eouthouse, was Gus Fring's henchman, the one who threatened Mike with a gun near the end of ep 2.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 April 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link

Ohhh ok that makes more sense.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2022 05:17 (two years ago) link

I'm more conscious that things have to dovetail with the beginning of the Breaking Bad first series than I think I have been.
Nt sure how sui generis I was thinking things were before, but did seem like there had been a bit more leeway or seemingly. Not sure how sketched out anything was during Breaking Bad.

did wonder how a safe was going to have the same settings as teh previous one if it was replaced but that of course becomes clear.

The 2 stoned babes were in taht same apartment weren't they? Oh right is this the supposedly dead Mexican gangster's pad? I was trying to remember if he was in Breaking Bad in more than flashback as it was. Still can't.
& was the guy with the beard a close relative he found superfluous or something. Or is that just an illustration of how callous he is.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 April 2022 09:53 (two years ago) link

sorry not sure how taht happened I seem to have lost the end part of that bracket.
now looks like I just placed it in the wrong place. meant to include taht last paragraph

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 April 2022 09:55 (two years ago) link

this review explained a lot of these points pretty well btw: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-recaps/better-call-saul-season-6-premiere-recap-1333400/

symsymsym, Friday, 22 April 2022 06:20 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah noticed that HG Wells paperback at the start. The copy of First Men In The Moon I bought in Canada was from the same series but I don't remember where that fits into Breaking Bad.
I didn't quite place when that scene was supposed to be. I thought Saul was down at heel from the office and car I remember him using. In BB at least.

Stevolende, Friday, 22 April 2022 07:16 (two years ago) link

Easter egg rundown

Stevolende, Friday, 22 April 2022 12:07 (two years ago) link

https://screenrant.com/better-call-saul-season-6-house-easter-eggs/
hit the wrong button

Stevolende, Friday, 22 April 2022 12:07 (two years ago) link

I was thinking the anti-Semitic ruckus was an improv when the bank guy recognized him and tried to get him thrown out.

Yes this obviously

The motel number iirc was scrawled on a bank transfer that would be plausible to be in nacho’s safe (and in itself incriminating) and its purpose is to direct the cartel toward nacho - this is fring’s plan not mikes

p sure at the start of the kettleman scene jimmy says something like “it’s goodman now, long story”, not that hard to believe someone would retain something he heard 10 minutes before although this thread has me wondering

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

what I do enjoy about everything in the Breaking Bad universe is it really wonderfully illustrates what a terrible life being a gangster is. like the end result of your work is that you're rich, but you spend your entire life looking over your shoulder, dodging bullets, and wondering if innocent family members are going to be killed for what you did. what you get is a status that initially feels great ("I'm a BOSS"), but you never really get to spend your money as you get addicted to simply having it, and the job takes up every waking day of your life so you can't vacation anywhere.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

Yes!

Lalo’s “I don’t sleep much” in the last season

The pallet of cash in the storage unit in bb, sprayed for silverfish periodically - what a grim piece of wish fulfilment

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

Sub in “capitalism” for “being a gangster” obv

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link

the first two episodes were good. it's starting off a bit slower than i expected. they're setting things up a lot

also, rhea seehorn is absolutely beautiful

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:39 (two years ago) link

I feel like this show is slow and that’s a huge part of why it’s great

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:44 (two years ago) link


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