Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

They must be mind-wreckingly stupid to imagine that a bankruptcy would get up when they are literally giving away (tens? hundreds? of) millions.

god I had better not engage with this, I'm both clueless and easily depressed

Son of Buffalo shooting victim asks Senate: "Is there nothing that you personally are willing to do to stop the cancer of white supremacy and the domestic terrorism it inspires? Because if there is nothing, then...you should yield your positions." pic.twitter.com/Yv9cPfEkAt

— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) June 7, 2022

Let’s not underestimate the clout of gun manufacturers who just shovel millions to right wing politicians, but quietly.

I can’t find it online but I read in the dead-tree Washington Post about the political activities of the manufacturer of the weapon used in Uvalde.

And mass shootings always lead to increased gun sales. Killing is their business…and business is good!

I wonder if the Kremlin can still keep the NRA afloat with their current, eh, 'expenditures'

Um, huh? How did the Kremlin get mentioned here

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/nra-maria-butina-ukraine-putin-war-crimea-republicans-trump-guns/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804

progress (........?)

Facebook’s ban on gun sales gives sellers 10 strikes before booting them

Facebook prohibits gun sales on its service. But buyers and sellers can violate the rule 10 times before they are kicked off the social network, according to internal guidance obtained by The Washington Post.

The policy, which has not previously been reported, is much more lenient than for users who post child pornography, which is illegal, or a terrorist image on Facebook, which prompts immediate removal from the platform.

A separate five-strikes policy extends even to gun sellers and purchasers who actively call for violence or praise a known dangerous organization, according to the documents.

...But while the company was publicly praised for banning the sales, internally, enforcement was lax, they added.

“The number of strikes needed to actually take someone off was so great that the policy didn’t really make a difference. The only ramification was that a seller’s post was taken down,” the person said.

Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/09/facebook-gun-sellers-10-strikes/

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-enforces-ban-on-gun-sales-with-10-strikes-and-youre-out-policy/

they just need nine reminders before it sinks in

thing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

Sigh

flag football?

When I was using Facebook Marketplace to sell off some power tools, I'd report all the EMPTY GLOCK CASE WINKWINK $600 ads and Facebook said they were all legit and above board.

no see what they were saying is that was a 'partial strike' so like it counts as a half-strike towards their ten strike total but the ad is allowed to stay up in the meantime because I mean they have to make a living maaaan

hing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 9, 2022 1:59 PM bookmarkflaglink

lol seriously, though they did manage to figure out the last time I did that and ban my other account. shoulda used VPN

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

keep in mind, with facebook the number used to be higher! "Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower."

honestly, having been a veteran on a couple of mid-to-low projects that no one really cared about in a large organization, this kind of sounds like the thing where you only make about a third of the very obvious improvements you can make. why do it all at once and have to start over on new project when you can spread the "doing good" part over several years instead? Don't go from 20 strikes (or 40. or 51?) to 3 strikes or 2 strikes or 1 strike all at once. you gotta slooooowly get there and build up some PT along the way

A friend from high school got banned for drunkenly ranting at COVID deniers night after night over the summer of 2020 and decided it was time to go to rehab. Getting banned from Facebook is a pretty legit rock bottom IMO.

why would anyone want to sell a firearm anyway? guns are for hoarding, hundreds of them

Guns are for killing, you Commie dirtbag.

guns are for killing the bears that threaten my family here on the frontier. the local bears are incredibly angry with my family, and particularly me

Don't piss off the gays, Karl.

i don't understand why they're all so angry with me when all did was them to stay off my frontier, please

(multiple words eaten by wildlife)

the wildlife has a right to eat your words, its their land

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

― When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 9, 2022 11:01 AM

take your pick: sexually abusing children, insider trading, use of excessive force, etc.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104010176/washington-county-maryland-shooting

xpost Yeah of course but I'm thinking a more formalized 'careful, guy, u just got yr ninth strike so you're super close to suffering a mild consequence' type of situation

co-worker reporting the mall her son works at (Eastridge Mall in Gastonia, NC) just had a shooting. early news = 3 shot, with non-life threatening injuries (hope it stays that way)

department of homeland security helpfully informs us that many more people are going to be killed this summer

if only there were something, anything, anyfuckingthing at all that could be done to prevent even a few of these murders that we know are going to happen, but nah

If only.

Minority Report but the precogs are like w/e d00d

Dumb question from a non-American: I remember Trump issuing executive orders on all kinds of crazy stuff, why can't Biden issue an executive order banning assault rifles?

like with most of trump’s crazy shit it would be thrown out by the courts asap and set terrible legal precedents

and Biden's trying to present himself as the calmer, saner alternative to Trump's wild-eyed crazy act

And Biden like most Democrats is an institutionalist who doesn’t want to disturb “norms” or tradition.

Oh man---even more bad details re police response, I think---was already pretty granular in prev. reports--this is summary of latest testimony in Texas legislature:
https://link.motherjones.com/view/5eb474cbb01fd7378a5c1c4agqx0t.13x4/49c04054

Didn't realize they got there within 3 minutes---but then, of course--

That the door might not have even been locked and the person in charge at the scene claiming he didn't know he was in charge...jfc

https://apnews.com/article/alabama-birmingham-shootings-religion-1c773c7332c344e5ac30a1101cedeeef

Wow. Eva Mireles, a Uvalde teacher, called her husband and told him she had been shot and was dying.

Her husband, a police officer, tried to take down the shooter but was detained by other officers and had his gun taken away. https://t.co/fPgfra6n5z

— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) June 22, 2022

There's going to be a new horrifying piece of information every other day until the sun swallows us all

Alex Jones thinks this mass shooting was completely normal

The cops really wanted this to happen huh? I was willing to ascribe the police’s actions to incompetence and cowardice but man now I’m starting to wonder if the cops were cheering this guy on.

I doubt that. I 100% believe they were all terrified of dying because god forbid any risk exist in LAW ENFORCEMENT and decided the kids had a long enough life and that the media would probably assume they did the best they could so they'd get away with being cowards.

otm. as school district cops i imagine that their days prior to this were spent yelling at kids for wearing 'inappropriate' outfits, directing parking lot traffic, collecting free coffee from nearby businesses, and basking in praise for being theoretical heroes without actually ever having to think about anything or do anything they didnt want to. they reacted like all lazy cops do: do as little as possible and hope that when its all over the buck wouldnt stop with them.

I’m sure they always had the self image of being warriors who guard the sheep from the wolves, a special breed of hero needed for these ti—OH LORD HE HAS A GUN THATS DANGEROUS OK COFFEE BREAK

It's been so wild to watch the whiplash as the pro-cop online bootlickers have 180'd from "these are fierce warriors who protect our society and need to be armed with the latest military gear to keep us all safe" to "what? it's dangerous to face a guy with an AR-15, whaddaya expect they should do? let's see you face down an armed man tough guy".

Or

"It could have made things WORSE to engage"

Or

"It changed from active engagement to barracaded shooter with hostages"

If there was a choice, which would you pick?

— johncusack.eth (@johncusacketh) June 21, 2022

Vote didn't go how he thought