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^^ I also lol-ed at this

sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link

not just "twinkle fingers" but IRL lol

sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link

i did a high pitched huhuh like a goat

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link

yo is it true anarchists got sonned by a tankie after a book fair beef??????

, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

actually, it was the tankies that got sonned by the anarchists lol

sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

lolol. I also hear 'tankie' (and have used it) irl, but I also hang out with anarchists (I'm a goddamned commie but have anarchist sympathies).

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

I definitely use it in conversation but that’s because I fucking hate tankies and Maoist facefuck types so so much, just absolutely empty and nihilistic ideology

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:57 (two years ago) link

this is in actual response to posts itt - where the hell do people use the word 'tankie' irl? is it a british university thing?

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map)

anywhere people expressing gratitude in a cloyingly affected way, probably

the whole concept of "irl", i spent like two years only talking to one other person irl so... idk. strict divides between online and in-person discourse don't work for me.

mostly it's like _jargon_, leftist _jargon_, i mean where the hell do people use the word "cisheteronormativity" in person, right? well, anywhere you're in person with me, because it's a word that's relevant to my life, i use that word a lot. just because leftist debates are largely irrelevant to people outside leftist circles doesn't mean those disputes are, like, these bitter fights over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin or some shit that's presumably removed from reality.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 03:37 (two years ago) link

hi! it was a question. i don't hear it in my red state. it's my experience that people are very different on the internet than they are irl. ohmygosh i used irl. sorry not sorry. anyway if you read the exchange past my post maybe you would have seen that someone provided some clarity for me. not everything is about you. thanks!

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 03:45 (two years ago) link

anywhere people expressing gratitude in a cloyingly affected way, probably

i'm not sure what this is in reference to but i'm feeling a little attacked.

i'm sorry if i overreacted with my sarcastic tone but your response to me is out of line in a few ways. of course i understand that there isn't a strict divide between online and in-person discourse. but i think you know that and you're eager to mischaracterize me.

and then to take the term 'tankie' and generalize about jargon, like 'tankie' isn't very different from a word like 'cisheteronormativity,' completely missing the the fact that 'tankie' is a derogatory term applied to communists by other people... like, you're so eager to get from what i said to ... you... that you don't mind losing a few contextual frames to speed up the process.

anyway, if you have a problem with me, you can tell me straight up instead of twisting my words to your own ends ok?

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:20 (two years ago) link

" anywhere people expressing gratitude in a cloyingly affected way, probably

i'm not sure what this is in reference to but i'm feeling a little attacked."

it was a pun, "tankie" = "t'ank ye" or something similar, nothing to do with the rest of the post

my post wasn't really about you, it was mostly an unrelated vent about my own frustrations, and i admit to posting in haste, i try not to do that but i'm not at my peak right now

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:24 (two years ago) link

wow, ok. i posted my response in haste too, and it's also very much not about you! i suspected i was reacting in a triggered way but i did anyway. i'm sorry.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:33 (two years ago) link

You can't have second thoughts here, this is the oh wait never mind

Armenian Idol (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:38 (two years ago) link

wow, ok. i posted my response in haste too, and it's also very much not about you! i suspected i was reacting in a triggered way but i did anyway. i'm sorry.

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map)

absolutely forgiven, things can get heated and honestly i jumped to conclusions in some ways too. we're good!

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:42 (two years ago) link

👍👍

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:46 (two years ago) link

Anarchos on tankies.

Can the hammer and sickle crew occasionally please just chill the fuck out pic.twitter.com/nzvVwBJXbH

— Victims of Capitalism Memorial Foundation (@karaokecomputer) June 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 07:41 (two years ago) link

'tankie' is a derogatory term applied to communists by other people

See, I recognise that this is often the case now, but as an addendum to my post about using it irl I should point out that 'tankie' does not and should not mean 'communist'. Tankies are Stalin supporters/authoritarian regime apologists.

emil.y, Monday, 13 June 2022 12:33 (two years ago) link

^^ that's what I always thought

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2022 12:49 (two years ago) link

Ditto, it's obviously that.

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 13 June 2022 12:58 (two years ago) link

in the late 50s in the uk it was an crit applied across a division within uk communism, of those in favour of the crushing of the hungarian uprising by those dismayed by said crushing(upshot was primarily the emergence of the uk new left: e.p.thompson, stuart hall, perry anderson etc)

in the 80s in the uk it was an crit applied across division within the far left, of those of the invasion of afghanistan by those critical of the soviet regime in various ways
(upshot was a second fracture of the uk communist party -- conservativew wing vs eurocommuists -- and an intensified hostility towards both wings of same from the many flavours of trots, the latter being the species of far left org that best articulated the aftermath of may 1968, linking the prague spring to solidarnosc as models of a revived left)

from the 90s in the uk it began to break free of intra-communist discourse, as ppl formerly on the far left as students began to find their feet in the non-communist parliamentary left and used it to mock the inablity of the old far left to "modernise" (modernise being a term with a variety of meanings in the event: the kpunk wing of the far left were just as scornful of the traditional far left as the newly careetist nu-centre were, and tankie was a term often deployed in that scorn)

since the 00s it has increasingly simply een an online insult -- and occasional an ironised online self-identification -- which has broken fully free of uk secatrian parochialism and could often honestly just be swapped out for "bot" (or "trot") for a particular kind of teenage channer trolling complete with left-informed wojacks and etc. it no longer applies to membership of anything resembling a political party of organisation that a 56-er tankie would recognise as left politics at all -- and you more and more hear it as a dismissal in the mouths of ppl not remotely on the left (at which point it doesn't really overlap with the meanings and implications a lefty with a sense of history probably hears in it)

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 13:16 (two years ago) link

That’s a far better post than this discussion deserved.

gyac, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:53 (two years ago) link

everyone's going crazy for Tank-E, the new AI engine that generates purely political content to the prompt of your choosing!

imago, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

That’s a far better post than this discussion deserved.

― gyac, Monday, 13 June 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Let ppl enjoy things!

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

damn thanks for the historical perspective mr. s

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

The gods gifted the young mark s with a great talent to write fluently, quirkily, and confidently, looking like he can manipulate theoretical frameworks with ease, displaying huge depths of knowledge and insider knowledge. But they cursed him with a bluffer’s love for using empty jargon, and temptation go far too far with assertions…

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link

also typos

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

typos are the spice of a post, though, i think

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:51 (two years ago) link

Tarragon?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link

Herb

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link

since the 00s it has increasingly simply een an online insult

A bonny blue een?

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

Let ppl enjoy things!

― xyzzzz_

that sounds suspiciously like right deviationism, comrade

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

lol at TANK-E! (imago's post)

sarahell, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link

a tankie walks into a rally and says, "let's find another rally. this one's full of tankies!"

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link

since the 00s it has increasingly simply een an online insult -- and occasional an ironised online self-identification -- which has broken fully free of uk secatrian parochialism and could often honestly just be swapped out for "bot" (or "trot") for a particular kind of teenage channer trolling complete with left-informed wojacks and etc. it no longer applies to membership of anything resembling a political party of organisation that a 56-er tankie would recognise as left politics at all -- and you more and more hear it as a dismissal in the mouths of ppl not remotely on the left (at which point it doesn't really overlap with the meanings and implications a lefty with a sense of history probably hears in it)

I first learned it in anarchist circles as an insulting reference to Maoists, and never having looked the etymology of the term up, always assumed it had to do with Tiananmen Square. There's an anarchist group here in Philly, I think, that has put up some stickers that have the iconic shot of the tank and the man in Tiananmen, with the words "ALWAYS AGAINST THE TANKS," which has a nice if obvious double meaning.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Monday, 13 June 2022 21:23 (two years ago) link

Tanks for nothing, I suppose.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 13 June 2022 21:26 (two years ago) link

this is the only tankie I'm about tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSRIm5IIDdM

sarahell, Monday, 13 June 2022 21:29 (two years ago) link

and here it is again with peter hammill and robert fripp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-hITDxgkc

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

fuck books. read thoughts.

I'm ANTIFA and I vote. (Austin), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

Imagine taking up space and making it about your need to troll at a time like this. Must be nice for it just to be a game.

gyac, Friday, 24 June 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link

(clicks "New Poll")

who does the united states hate more?

•women

•children

literally. rascally fucken reagan.

he looks like wile e coyote in my mind right now. but like a hyper realistic version and i can see all of the bacteria festering around the corners of his mouth. he just kind of walks around thrusting his scrawny, also very disease-infected pelvis upwards and around as he saunters. he tries to make it seem like he's lost control of his own physical movements, but you know it's all an act.

you both know that as he finally makes eye contact with you and turns his roughly furry, but mostly patchy pelvis towards you.

your last words are: " ... but i voted for palin!"

(man this "choose your adventure" book sucks, jfc)

who does the united states hate more?

•women

•children

― "Why is the voice of reason treated as the unreliable narrator?", asked (Austin), Friday, June 24, 2022 2:53 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, what the absolute goddamn fuck

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, 24 June 2022 22:05 (two years ago) link

hey we elected a black man before we'd let an icky woman in there.

(insert "nervous man who can't decide which button to press" meme. one says "massacre children" and the other says "enslave women" and our friends on the scotus just wanna press both, gosh darnit.)

like yeah: let's get this sausage party a-goin'!👍🏻

just hope i live to see the day when it will be legally required for every man to have a biomechanical gun implanted onto his gentials. it'll become known as "the crotch cannon" and you better believe there's upgrades available, friend.

this ruling has been brought to you by country crotches. don't ask what you can do for your crotch cannon, ask what country crotches can do for you. now, with a word in praise of country crotches, here's justice thomas:

"my fellow americans,

lol it's an actual gun for my junk? nice!"

i mean they already have "crotch rockets", right?

it's the logical next step. c'mon, elon. bring TSLA back from the dumps a little? bit of the old pump and dump, yeah? 'cept we're physically pumping this time, babaaaaayy!

(oh, might have forgotten to mention that one of the crotch cannon's available add-ons is a motor that exists solely to replicate the sound of a revving harley davidson and emit coal exhaust. for the proper gentleman.)

(so basically the rest of the story is elon musk was in on it the whole time, invents crotch cannon, becomes a politician, takes over world, everyone loses lol. the end.)

(also maybe a foregone conclusion, but no girls allowed in any of this kickassery. back to the birthing hive with you, lady!)

-interruption for reality: this is how a a crazy person deals with extremely bad news. sorry if my angry cynical toilet humor is upsetting. i figure: it's already gotten worse than i had ever imagined, might as well go extreme and have a laugh. i don't know how else to process anything. i'll shut up now.-

ts: too much media coverage of kate bush vs. too much media coverage of glastonbury

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 June 2022 04:42 (two years ago) link

either way it’s a nightmare innit

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 June 2022 04:43 (two years ago) link

i mean they're both avoidable but still

Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 June 2022 08:46 (two years ago) link

Both are areas where there could be interesting things to say, but all the coverage consistently misses all opportunities.

In the case of Glastonbury, journos are shamelessly turning out the same articles every time.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 25 June 2022 09:01 (two years ago) link


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