like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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Kemi Badenoch - 40 votes
Suella Braverman - 32 votes
Penny Mordaunt - 67 votes
Rishi Sunak - 88 votes
Liz Truss - 50 votes
Tom Tugendhat - 37 votes

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

A bit mean that we don't get to find out how many votes Hunt and Zawahi got, mind.

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

There’s 358 Tory MPs so that leaves 44 between them.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

they each needed 20 to get on the ballot too.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

we don't have an Anne Marie Waters thread, understandably, so just to note here that she has suddenly wound up For Britain today and quit electoral politics

https://scoutnews.substack.com/p/it-was-the-best-organised-far-right

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

https://img.kiosko.net/2022/07/13/uk/daily_telegraph.750.jpg

mo farah obviously not been through enough...

koogs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Why did BoJo only tell the truth now?

(kidding, we await...)

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

the trains in Spain will be free! (in the main) 🇪🇸 https://t.co/PkwHKxXLpX

— Sophia Smith Galer (@sophiasgaler) July 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

if you build a big enough network of gulags you can requisition 12000 new homes instead - what a bunch of cautious melts! It's so depressing seeing good stuff like this when you know it would be impossible in the UK within your lifetime.

calzino, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

...more dirty tricks from the Telegraph as they print a picture that makes Sunak look about 3 foot tall.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:02 (one year ago) link

"child seat's this side sir"

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:06 (one year ago) link

he seemed very evasive on the radio this morning.

also seems to have swallowed the lie that sending refugees to rwanda is to disuade the evil traffickers. yeah, that'll show 'em. and this form someone keen on repeating his humble immigrant beginnings.

koogs, Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:08 (one year ago) link

LOL humble beginnings.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:10 (one year ago) link

Talking of which, I noticed this morning the fact that Liz Truss went to school in Paisley (the same primary school as me!) was mentioned as evidence of a humble background. Amazingly her father was a professor of mathematics! Where did the brains end up on that family?

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link

she can be added to the list: Andrew Neil, Paolo Nutini, Gerry Rafferty, Liz Truss, Tom D from ILX, my dad

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:18 (one year ago) link

apparently Truss's parents were lefties who too her on demos as a kid (that's her on the right)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02986/Liz-Truss_2986380c.jpg

soref, Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:22 (one year ago) link

... where she has remained for the rest of her life.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:24 (one year ago) link

imagine hating your parents that much

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:26 (one year ago) link

Is Mordaunt going to be the next PM?

the pinefox, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:16 (one year ago) link

according to the bookies, yes she's odds on. The humkble little billionaire pocket prince has drifted out to 3/1.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:26 (one year ago) link

^^^
*humble*

xp see also lifelong Tory, Hilary Benn

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:27 (one year ago) link

Mordaunt has the advantage of relative obscurity, so no-one's seen how incompetent she is. Not yet, anyway.

and who is not flawed? (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

Feels like she's being set up for a fall. Media will make a lot of sexist hay about her vs Rayner.

nashwan, Thursday, 14 July 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

Liz Truss opposing the monarchy at the 1994 Lib Dem conferencepic.twitter.com/zU09W4c4aR

— Tides of History (@labour_history) July 14, 2022

Liz Truss - her radical student years coming back to haunt her! Also Mordaunt's team will be deleting all evidence of her Roman Catholic background from her wiki.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

not a regular poster to this thread but i really hate seeing shit like this, tweeted by peter walker and then copied into the guardian liveblog: "Theresa May has arrived to vote in the second round, looking - as has often been the case in the last week or so - decidedly chipper."

like, who cares how theresa may is looking or feeling? are there more than half a dozen people alive today who are happy that she is experiencing schadenfreude? i've seen similar accounts of her walking merrily into the commons, watching boris squirm under questions. yes, we recall when she was prime minister and was then ousted, it was only a couple of years ago. neither her happiness nor her misery are interesting but her walking around with a smile on her face keeps being mentioned as though some historical injustice were being righted

dogs, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:02 (one year ago) link

burn the witch!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

Liz Truss - her radical student years coming back to haunt her!

Two years later she was in the Conservative Party.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link

glory hunter

nashwan, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

is the feeling amongst the nutbar right that Mordaunt is simply not nutbar enough and therefore must be stopped?

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:18 (one year ago) link

re dogs's post: this is what all political journalists and commentators are like, it's halfway between gossip and sport to them, which is why they'll be near the front in the guillotine queue come the day

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link

(xp) Yes.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link

They've decided they're throwing their lot in with Liz Truss, who is hopeless and will be IDS Mk. II.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

Sunak can't beat Mordaunt in a head to head, not sure if Truss is more vulnerable in that situation.

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

One thing I have learned from this nonsense is how to pronounce Tugendhat.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

every one of these candidates is a tory ghoul and therefore has a long history of hypocrisy, ever-changing positions, corruption, general evil-doing, etc. and we will expect them to have all of this flung at them if they continue in the contest, however Mordaunt seems to be the one best equipped to bat these away by reversing her position or just ignoring it and moving on in the Johnson/Trump style, this is why I suspect she will win.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

Also I suspect there's a bit of Thatcher fetishism going on.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link

Approval Ratings:

Boris Johnson (CON): 31% (+6)
Keir Starmer (LAB): 28% (=)

via
@RedfieldWilton
, 10 Jul

Kieth with a lower approval rating than a flop political corpse that is scheduled to be dissolved in acid. The knives will be out for him when he's hitting Corbyn numbers against a new PM and whatever shit new attack strategy he's attempting isn't working.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

Sunak can't beat Mordaunt in a head to head, not sure if Truss is more vulnerable in that situation.

polls have mordaunt winning all the head-to-heads, no idea if that holds up and i kinda suspect it's just because she's relatively unknown compared to truss/sunak? i certainly have no idea who she is more broadly

the right of the party is surely going to unite around truss? so it probably just comes down to whether some of sunak's supporters worry he'd absolutely lose the head-to-head vs truss & decide to push mordaunt to the final round instead?

ufo, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

oh good the terfs have got an #AnyButPenny hashtag on the go

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

housing policy in this country is absolutely criminal and those responsible need to be put before some sort of people's tribunal https://t.co/Wg89PqxC0a

— Tom Blackburn (@malaiseforever) July 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

lol was mordaunt's incredibly transphobic and hateful tweet thread the other day not enough for them??

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

you've got to have a long track record of hate-speech and transphobia to win over this mob, you can't just turn it on like a tap and get instant results!

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

nothing will ever be enough for the transphobes

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Yes, this is already being weaponized against her and I expect much more of the same.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

Her voting record is not of a transphobe apparently, so that will need to change too.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

Suella Braverman has been eliminated.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

Seeing that the terfs were foaming about her made me think she might be the best of a bad lot but I also saw the transphobic tweet so in summation - fuck everything

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

only one left who appears not to be actively hostile to trans rights is tugendhat who isn't any sort of ally but doesn't seem to have any interest in culture warring there

mordaunt is clearly overcompensating for her past pro-trans comments and would probably do anything the transphobes beg of her now. sunak seems more in the johnson camp of not really personally caring but seeing it as politically advantageous, his rhetoric is a fair bit less deranged & he's been focused on the very minor issue opposing gender neutral language instead of e.g. bringing back section 28 and repealing the equality act like the rest are advocating for.

ufo, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link


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