like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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meanwhile the Met are cleaning their act up

https://t.co/iV0GqHOAxU

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 15, 2022

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 13:57 (two years ago) link

you'd think they could find at least one senior copper who isn't an overt racist

nah just kidding you wouldn't think that

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 14:05 (two years ago) link

you can see from his face that the guy is just unadulterated pure Cop Scum, racism is in his DNA

calzino, Friday, 15 July 2022 14:17 (two years ago) link

I've never been sure what people mean when they say that, for instance, Boris Johnson "says it like it is". What it basically comes down to is they agree with that he said and that's no great feat of legerdemain.

― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2022 12:32 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think part of it is that the job of being a front-line politician makes it impossible for you to be completely straight and candid because you have to hold together a coalition of groups with different interests and avoid saying things your enemies can use to attack your allies, a politician who never dissembles is someone who is fundamentally bad at their job. So the nearest you can get to an 'honest' politician is someone like Johnson or Trump who is open about the fact that they're slippery and giving a performance, and gives these little winks that let people feel like they're in on the joke, and that feels less insulting to a lot of the public that someone like Starmer presenting themselves as transparent and decent while simultaneously being tricksy and evasive.

I think the Johnson/Trump tactic of treating everything as a cynical joke only really works for the right though, or at least it only works as a destructive force to tear stuff down, it's not much good if your politics depend on convincing people that things could be better, so I don't know what lesson the left should draw from its success. Lewis Goodall wrote something the other day about a focus group on the tory leadership candidates where he said that funny tiktok videos were becoming increasingly important in forming voters impressions of politicians, which seems like it points towards more BJ style clowns. Short funny videos of Mick Lynch have been very successful recently, but those were specifically him making right-wing opponents look like fools, I don't know if you can use that medium for constructive rather than destructive purposes.

soref, Friday, 15 July 2022 14:17 (two years ago) link

read something where he did the same act at different events, turned up late, messed his hair before going onstage, fluffed some sheets of paper, said oh oops I forgot to prepare then "ad libs" the same exact story

It was prob. this: https://reaction.life/jeremy-vine-my-boris-story/

fetter, Friday, 15 July 2022 14:49 (two years ago) link

saw something where Jeremy Vine dressed up as a cowboy and made a tit of himself on national television

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 14:50 (two years ago) link

Ah ha ha, is she funded by these swindlers or something?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/15/penny-mordaunt-repeatedly-advocated-use-of-homeopathy-on-nhs

and who is not flawed? (Matt #2), Friday, 15 July 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link

can't believe a tory would support total bullshit that actually inflicts harm on the people it is supposed to help

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 July 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

🤪🤪🤪

For the #C4LeaderDebate Liz Truss has recreated Margaret Thatcher’s appearance from her 1979 election broadcast down to the last detail pic.twitter.com/pqzJPADQsl

— Andrew Gunn 🇺🇦 (@ASGunn) July 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 July 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link

she's usually three sheets to the wind without even touching a drop of alcohol, or perhaps a more ableist way of putting it would be: she's a fucking moron. And I think most of her party knows this, but yeah let's go for some Iron Lady cosplay, lol her brain is like mushy peas.

calzino, Friday, 15 July 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link

starmer has been quite eye opening for me. not his politics, whatever they are, but his former career. I've only ever done minimum wage, intellectually simple jobs. I'm not smart. I'm certainly not clever enough to get a law degree pass the bar and rise to head of the cps. all of which I would imagine to be quite difficult and subject to quite a lot of competition.so while I am not in awe of people who can do so I at least recognise they are capable intellectually of something I am incapable of. and yet I have quite literally never heard starmer say something intelligent. not even something clever that I might not agree with. I always figured lawyers would at minimum be good at winning arguments but I genuinely cannot see how he can have ever convinced or persuaded anybody of anything ever. he is just a blank void. I can't even hate him like calz, all I feel is puzzlement.

oscar bravo, Friday, 15 July 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link

on the few occasions where i've sat in on trials as a spectator my impression has been that the rhetorical cut and thrust is not good like they make it look on tv and in movies

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 20:29 (two years ago) link

don't talk yourself down here oscar, and don't overrate how clever you need to be to get a law degree. There are loads of thick fuckwits about with multiple letters after their names. Anyway I'd love to see Starmer try and re-wire a school in 6 weeks or manage a betting shop full of crooks and thugs! Therefore I'm much cleverer than him! And doing stuff like deporting an Asian autistic lad to a US supermax prison on the most dubious of evidence or supporting anti-GRT mobs doesn't require intelligence - it just requires you to be an evil piece of shit.

calzino, Friday, 15 July 2022 20:34 (two years ago) link

Watched a bit of that, first time heard Badenoch speak - she is total culture wars brainworms, answered a question about NHS funding by talking about chipping her tooth. Tugendhat was the only one that sounded like a professional politician.

(obvs all of them were very bad and we are all still fucked, goes without saying)

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 July 2022 20:36 (two years ago) link

I was on a jury at the age of 21 and the defense lawyer was the most pompous tory piece of shit, so pleased with himself for once again winning at his personal debating society, such naked contempt for absolutely everyone in the room, just a shame that the defendant was obviously innocent as it would have been nice to wipe the smirk off his face for a moment.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 July 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link

Getting a law degree requires a modicum of intelligence, lots of swotting and an almost total lack of imagination. Having said that the barrister types I have known/met seem pleasant enough, just not very likely to ever say or do anything of any interest.

and who is not flawed? (Matt #2), Friday, 15 July 2022 20:46 (two years ago) link

Tuggin' dat described building houses as socialist today

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link

Watched it up till Krishnan Gurumurthy (who I hate) started grilling Mordaunt on her trans stance - which was very early on in the proceedings - then switched over to The Outer Limits. Whenever any of them start going on about how honest they are and how much integrity they have I really want someone to say to them, "You're only empasizing that because your last leader and the current Prime Minister is a lying sack of shit, right?" Gurumurthy did ask them, "Is Boris Johnson honest?", to which Badenoch answered, rather coyly, "Sometimes".

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2022 20:55 (two years ago) link

just heard one of our eggspurt political analysists describe Truss as: "strong on brexit, weak on performance". Sounds like a very memorable event in the annals of UK political history. But I'm glad I gave it a miss.

calzino, Friday, 15 July 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link

sounds like an advert for washing powder

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link

Was in a cab earlier hearing Eddie Mair talking to Fabricnut who was bemoaning the trans row getting too much coverage in the contest and coming across as an alarmingly more salient almost sensible shitbag compared to the actual candidates

nashwan, Friday, 15 July 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link

she's usually three sheets to the wind without even touching a drop of alcohol, or perhaps a more ableist way of putting it would be: she's a fucking moron.

I must admit I often enjoy the wise words of poster Calzino!

the pinefox, Friday, 15 July 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

thank you Pinefox, but I'm probably not very wise. But I do find if you absolutely despise just about all UK politicians then it's very rare that anything you post dates that badly. The main snag is it makes me an extremely repetitive and also an extremely repetitive and an absolutely extremely repetitive... ad infinitum...

calzino, Friday, 15 July 2022 23:48 (two years ago) link

it's incredible listening to Tories attempting to boost the reputation of someone as vacuous and inconsistent as Truss. Also noticed Badenoch talking about her humble roots "flipping burgers" when her actual career path was from private school to private banking to The Spectator.

calzino, Saturday, 16 July 2022 10:19 (two years ago) link

She’s also the arsewipe who bragged about hacking Harriet Harman’s website and got in zero trouble for it.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:41 (two years ago) link

Consensus seems to be Tugendhat won the debate hands down. A little consolation for him when he's voted out in the next round.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:52 (two years ago) link

he looked every inch the professional politician, and lots of people can't stand professional politicians

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:59 (two years ago) link

The UK really has no concept of how to cope with heat. I've read advice to carry a bag of frozen peas under your shirt on the train. Right now on the radio they're suggesting you rub yourself with a raw onion ("but it only has a palliative, not a preventative effect")

— Elle Hunt (@elle_hunt) July 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:33 (two years ago) link

Flipping burgers!

the pinefox, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:54 (two years ago) link

Burgers, onions, peas. I'm feeling a bit peckish all of a sudden.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:58 (two years ago) link

Has a burger ever been flipped in a UK Macdonalds? I thought they just put them in a big industrial oven and warmed them up from frozen.

calzino, Saturday, 16 July 2022 13:01 (two years ago) link

I think she meant flipping burger chains

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 July 2022 13:30 (two years ago) link

Feel like the wise words of poster Calzino are finally capturing the mood of the nation

Barney's not in the mood to fuck about this morning. pic.twitter.com/4xteBZkGs2

— a normal man. an innocent man. (@DismalChips) July 16, 2022

Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 16 July 2022 13:52 (two years ago) link

Burgers, onions, peas, chickens...

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 July 2022 14:03 (two years ago) link

.. if there's hell below
We're all gonna go

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 16 July 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link

Very true.

swiss banks / food banks is a neat slogan form https://t.co/xapqMv3Cv6

— a furred tail upon nothingness (@dynamic_proxy) July 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNmWPuw5/?k=1

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:33 (two years ago) link

I have quite literally never heard starmer say something intelligent.

I think poster Oscar Bravo made a good point here.

Though Calzino was also correct to say that rewiring a school is a more challenging task than anything KS could manage.

the pinefox, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link

Also weird.

This is utterly insane. Using the Holocaust Memorial as a prop to connote seriousness? hideously inappropriate... pic.twitter.com/OyB0lzc4ue

— Arbeitology (@Arbeit_Fish) July 17, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 July 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

another classic Kieth fail

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

what a crass dickhead, as well as inappropriate it could also be taken in a quite sinister way!

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 16:47 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FX4GtanWAAIsULs?format=jpg&name=medium

resign!

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:18 (two years ago) link

Worse than Jessamine Crumlin.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

Lee Harpin is a weapons-grade arsewipe!

put a VONC on it (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

Reeves has been saying some weapons grade transphobic shit, I'm sure Labour will take strong action to disassociate itself from hate speech

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

no wonder the right-wing press keep blowing smoke up her arse, a bigoted ex-HBOS ghoul who loves to talk about ‘ironclad discipline’ on public spending. Unfortunately for her she has an even worse voice than Starmer!

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link

Yes, it's horrendous.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

it's funny how lots of Labour trash used to be on board with CAA and expressing solidarity etc, but now they they are attacking Starmer (and quite fairly) "oh this whole organisation is a bunch of tories"

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link

Guessing they all have air con.

poll by YouGov today for Times finds tackling climate change is the lowest priority for Tory membership in a list of 10 policy areas

— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) July 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 July 2022 09:39 (two years ago) link

british people struggling in this heat wave... stay strong... your ancestors colonized entire countries in this heat 💕💕💕

— Panic! At the Discourse (@kinjaldave7) July 17, 2022

lol was just thinking the exact same as this yesterday while reading Late Victorian Holocausts

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2022 10:30 (two years ago) link


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