The male colleague at the magazine who added these errors to my copy while I was under performance review is David Remnick, the @NewYorker’s Editor-in-Chief. I don’t pretend to understand why he did this. I do know that he has intimate knowledge of Malcolm’s work & when she died.— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 19, 2022
erm
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
I’m gonna guess they send out a looooong staff memo that boils down to: “Let’s just all be nice, mmmkay?” Then a bunch of nearly identical tweets appear from junior staffers about what a great working environment The New Yorker is. Erin gets rape and death threats and is fired.— Accidental_librarian (@ErkaLoubrarian) July 19, 2022
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
chotiner more or less sits back and lets alan dershowitz chotiner himself: https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/alan-dershowitzs-marthas-vineyard-cancellation
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link
Does Chotiner usually do this much faux-toadying to flatter the interviewee? I guess his shtick’s getting too well-known
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link
there are only so many people who think they can ~ by general acclaim ~ come out on top against a canny guy with the final edit
dershowitz is a suitable avatar for them all
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link
osnos superyacht article is v good
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 23 July 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
I feel like I've read a few versions of this piece over the years, but this one is really well-written:
I snuck into CPAC Hungary and all I got was this lousy article (and a heightened sense of foreboding about the fate of the American republic)https://t.co/hoovBMMqoq— Andrew Marantz (@andrewmarantz) June 27, 2022
― symsymsym, Sunday, 24 July 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link
yeah good read
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 July 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
So the @New Yorker has fired me, effective immediately. I’m speaking with the union about potentially filing a grievance on the termination. But here are some things that I will say….— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 25, 2022
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
This is fucked up.
2) that several errors that were cited in an email reprimanding me while I was under the performance review were not mine; and 3) that these were errors that David Remnick added to the copy.— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 25, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link
tbh overbey sounds like a nightmare - it's a difficult dance to be an employee who raises major criticisms against their employer, and she doesn't seem to have had the social skills to pull it off.
― sean gramophone, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
this reminds me of the recent felicia sonmez stuff where the person is right on the merits of the argument — well in overbey’s case the stuff about diversity there; i have no opinion on the performance review aspect — but you can only publicity castigate your employer for so long (especially from such a position of visibility [viral twitter threads]) before they’re probably going to want to fire you. that doesn’t feel very controversial to me… journalism jobs are not tenured, no one has a legal right to them. if she weighed the risks of speaking out (being fired) and decided that it was still important enough to her than more power to her honestly but she had to have seen this coming, no?
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
Also looks like she has been documenting this stuff for years. She mentions starting the diversity tracking in 2019, because at that point she was "increasingly concerned." So yeah, you've got to assume she saw this coming.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
if they wanted to fire her for being a pr disaster on twitter that's kind of understandable
putting her on review for supposedly different reasons and then allegedly introducing errors into her work seems rather different
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link
Every white guy in journalism right now over the age of like 50 still gets to play by a completely different rulebook than the rest of the world
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
how many email-only newsletters does the editor-in-chief normally edit personally
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link
Jeffrey Toobin literally jacked off in front of a staff meeting and still has a job
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
not at the new yorker tho
― mark s, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
personally embarrassing david remnick is a public service
more to the topic of this thread i really enjoyed the article on mega yacht culture in the latest issue
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/07/25/the-haves-and-the-have-yachts
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
I’m still working my way through it. Man, it’s … something.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
Yeah, that yacht story is fascinating.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
i started reading it but i hate all these people, find them almost physically revolting
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 July 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
yes. but there's a way in which he gets at how pathetic and insecure they all are even as they scale up to unimaginable heights of wealth
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
No matter how much money you have, you cannot escape death.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
this just gets better and better
So I was waiting for another hit piece to drop before responding to the @Gawker piece, but feel like it’s important to respond to this now. But first, does the @NewYorker still have a fact-checking dept?? Does @Gawker? So buckle up, kids—this will be a long one…— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) August 5, 2022
― k3vin k., Saturday, 6 August 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link
lol
― mookieproof, Saturday, 6 August 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link
overbey evidently is so far handling this very well on twitter and gawker -- assuming they're not just fibbing -- may well have been stiffed by new yorker management (and also the union?)
BUT:"Overbey did not respond to a lengthy list of questions we sent her on July 26 and multiple subsequent requests for comment. But after we reached out, she tweeted about the request. “To that @Gawker reporter who contacted me, I'll simply say, Go ahead & publish,” she wrote. “Publish it ALL. I'll just be over here sipping…”"
^^^this is where the fact-checking process kicks in and she deliberately opted not to supply any information to challenge the story they were getting from the other side? i mean this is her choice and her right obviously -- she's a journalist herself, she wants to control her won story -- but it does tend to support the claim that this is all a solo operation on her part (as does her suggestion that anyone they've anonymously quoted from the new yorker must be a management stooge…)
"of course you won't find anyone else to support my version of events! they're all in league against me!"
anyway as i say she's running the event well so let's see what round two scares up
― mark s, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 25 July 2022 17:45 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
^^^this is still the key takeaway
― mark s, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link
I find it hard to believe there is a real person named Tarpley Hitt.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
‘tarpley hitt’ tho― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 December 2021 07:17 (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 December 2021 07:17 (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mark s, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link
its tarpleys world we just live in it
From that most recent Overbey thread, I learned that she's Jack Hitt's daughter.
― jaymc, Saturday, 6 August 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link
I still laugh at Whiney's first post img.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 August 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link
Of course she is.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 August 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
At the same time, Overbey insinuates that Tarpley Hitt has a conflict of interest because her father is a "New Yorker contributor" ... even though, as best as I can tell, this amounts to one magazine feature in 2012 and eight online pieces between 2012 and 2016. During that time, he also contributed to the New York Times Magazine, Harper's, The New Republic, Mother Jones, Saveur, etc. etc. Now people are in Tarpley's mentions talking about her "rich New Yorker columnist father."
I started off feeling somewhat sympathetic to Overbey, whom I've followed on Twitter for years (mostly just because "New Yorker archive editor" sounded like a cool job). But the social-media dynamics of it all are leaving a bad taste in my mouth, regardless of whether she is actually "whistleposturing" or not.
― jaymc, Sunday, 7 August 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link
Pretty much every media story is just “no winners here” these days
― marcel the shell with swag on (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 7 August 2022 05:13 (one year ago) link
30 rapidfire tweets have never made anyone more sympathetic but if that's the platform you have to battle the New Yorker, I guess you've got to run with it. No one would notice if she tweeted a link to a blog laying out the case.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 7 August 2022 05:48 (one year ago) link
has anyone done the “when that tarpley hitt” joke yet
― mh, Sunday, 7 August 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link
No one would notice if she tweeted a link to a blog laying out the case.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 August 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
hey dudes on this thread just a quick note
if a woman is saying she felt unsafe and shitty at work and has receipts it's kind of shitty to criticize her methods. and her points about lack of diversity at that magazine still stands, no matter how much folks support her
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
don't remember her saying she was unsafe
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
though I figure this is a loose useage
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link
So the @NewYorker has absolutely no problem with a male reporter who literally took rides on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane, yet somehow the female employee who blew the whistle on diversity is the big problem. I honestly don’t think the magazine realizes how much it’s telling on itself— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) August 10, 2022
she's talking about Gladwell, right?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link
“I was invited to the TED conference in maybe 2000 (I can’t remember), and they promised to buy me a plane ticket to California,” Gladwell says now. “Then at the last minute they said, ‘We found you a ride on a private plane instead.’ As I recall, there were maybe two dozen TED conference goers onboard. I don’t remember much else, except being slightly baffled as to who this Epstein guy was and why we were all on his plane.”
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
Dear god will this Louise Brooks piece never fucking end????
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link
Did it?
― I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link
I abandoned it and assume it continues to go on and on and on with detailed descriptions of every scene of every movie that she ever did.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
The Louise Brooks piece doesn't get good until 3/4 of the way in, when the writer actually shows up at the apartment she hasn't left for years and starts talking with her. Then it's delightful. But it was 1979, so I assume it was novel to read a recap of someone's entire movie career.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link
Generally with archival issues, I read the restaurant review and do the crossword puzzle and then enjoy the week off from the New Yorker.
― jaymc, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link